I’d also like to mention that the initial …

Comment posted A83 closed with another landslide at Rest and Be Thankful by S Hamilton.

I’d also like to mention that the initial report above is incorrect, as the road is closed from B838 junction towards Arrochar and not the A815 junction – a vital piece of information for local residents

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  • For those living in Lochgoilhead, accessed via B828 at the top of the Rest, the current detour is approx 60 miles.
    A trip to the ‘local’ hospital at the Vale of Leven is bad enough when the road is open, taking 50 minutes. Google maps shows the trip via Crianlarich takes 2hrs 10mins, and via Dunoon 2hrs 52 mins and lets not mentionthe extra cost in fuel!

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    • We’re talking to Transport Scotland for detail – obviously they have to assess the situation before they can say anything but we’ll have updates as soon as they’re available.

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  2. Great! My daughter is on her way back from a University interview in Glasgow and has just phoned to say she can’t now get back to Mull tonight, so that’s :-
    her driving theory test in Craignure she’s going to miss this evening, plus cost of hotel in Oban tonight, plus she’ll be late for school tomorrow, all because of an issue that should haves been fixed aeons ago.

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    • It doesn’t help that the last ferry to Mull today is two hours earlier than yesterday – this isn’t a case of Calmac running services to suit themselves rather than the users is it? Their weekday timetable seems very irregular.

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  3. When is the government going to realise that the A83 is as vital to us as the M8 is to the central belt of Scotland?
    No one would expect or tolerate massive detours every few weeks around the M8. Why is Argyll always treated as the cheap second cousins to the central belt in Scotland?
    Never mind Scotland being independent, Argyll feels like a seperate island altogether!!!

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  4. It takes all of 10 minutes longer to drive from Glasgow to Oban via Crianlarich, so she must have been cutting it a bit fine if she’s going to miss the ferry . . .

    Or is this a bus-related issue?

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  5. HAVE JUST WATCHED BBC ONE SCOTTISH NEWS AT SIX. NOT A MENTION OF THE REST AND BE THANKFUL BEING CLOSED! IF SUCH A PROBLEM HAPPENED IN THE CENTRAL BELT IT WOULD BE HEADLINE NEWS.NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BBC. WE NEED INFORMATION TOO!
    FORTUNATELY I WAS WARNED BY LOOKING AT FORARGYLL BEFORE SETTING OFF DOWN TO GLASGOW

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    • BBC Scotland can be remarkably dozy – the Radio Scotland ‘Drivetime’ programme did announce that the Rest was closed, but then spoilt their act by explaining that there was a diversion via Tarbet (pronounced ‘Tarbert’). So now you know; perhaps the BBC Scotland people should get out more.

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      • And another thing, Elaine: you have to understand that the BBC has to prioritise news; ‘Alvin the chipmunk found in bin’ is always going to be a more important story than some crummy road being closed out in the bundu. And ‘Alvin the chipmunk’ is an Edinburger, not some dismal snivelling west coast peasant ingrate.

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  6. Here’s an idea. How about another big vehicle carrying ferry into Dunoon at a competitve price to take most of the traffic off the Rest.

    The A83 is unfit for purpose and was not built to take the volume of traffic it now is expected to take anyway. The solution is improved ferry services with PSOs into Cowal, Tighnabruaich for Portavadie (for Mid Argyll and Islay) and Kintyre.

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    • Dave, that’s a radical and practical suggestion – very left field, liberating and refocusing an entire argument:-)

      Tourist traffic could take the scenic route via Gourock-Dunoon and Portavadie-Tarbert if they were heading in a Campbeltown direction. Heavier vehicles could just travel Gourock-Dunoon then use the road network via Inverary, bypassing the Rest.

      The current private monopoly 600,000 vehicle crossing per annum service to Cowal is very expensive which inhibits traffic, but you are right without competition why would they drop their profits?

      Of course if there is no competition a couple of other solutions present themselves. The Government could introduce RET on the route and compensate the private company for loss of its substantial profits or it could impose a fair maximum price for using the service and limit profits to a reasonable return comparable with other public transport services.

      A frequent, reliable vehicle service competing with the current service on both price and timetable is probably the best solution, and what most people would want – but how could it be introduced?

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  7. Intresting to see yet again all the MP’s jumping on the band wagon now. Were all sorting it out for you? vote for me. Who was meant to be looking after it in the first place? Its not like its the first of last time its going to happen is it? next time someone may get hurt. No roads in good condition, no ferry left, no jobs, we live on a Island now. Thank god Western Ferries is a private company, at least they cant mess that up?

    Is this what Independence will feel like?

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  8. Thanks for keeping us updated. The information regarding the Rest seems to get posted here sooner than on the BBC or Traffic Scotland. The worst thing you c an do is ask the police – they are worse than useless! I am travelling back from London tonight so I will keep checking on ForArgyll (well at least until the 3G signal runs out at Dumbarton)

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    • Don’t expect any more updates tonight because they decided this morning to keep the road closed until tomorrow morning (24th), when they’ll review again.

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  9. For those living in Lochgoilhead, accessed via B828 at the top of the Rest, the current detour is approx 60 miles.
    A trip to the ‘local’ hospital at the Vale of Leven is bad enough when the road is open, taking 50 minutes. Google maps shows the trip via Crianlarich takes 2hrs 10mins, and via Dunoon 2hrs 52 mins and lets not mentionthe extra cost in fuel!

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    • I’d also like to mention that the initial report above is incorrect, as the road is closed from B838 junction towards Arrochar and not the A815 junction – a vital piece of information for local residents

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