Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee …

Comment posted on Water Resources (Scotland) Bill introduced – issues arising by Karl Hughes

Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee rascals.

As I said months ago the Scottish Government mean to flood more glens to provide pumped storage facilities for energy storage, energy generated by large commercial windfarms.
Given the huge environmental footprint of resevoirs of any type…this needs to be taken into consideration when folk quote wind as having a small environmental footprint…it does not…whether we are talking conventional back up or pumped storage…large scale commercial wind causes large scale damage to our uninhabited more natural locations.
I also hasten to add that the recently anounced connection to Norway will also use their spare storage facility or planned storage facility….much as Denmark is doing now…generate/export/store/release/buy back…madness.

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  • EURELECTRIC position “Trade-offs between environmental legislation and the low-carbon agenda”The 2009 Renewables Energy Directive stipulates the need to support “the use of energy storage systems for integrated intermittent production of energy from renewable sources.” (wind) Yet regulatory obstacles such as disproportionate implementation and too broad interpretation of environmental legislation are impeding the further development of hydropower in Europe”

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    Again Euroelectrics position:”Policymakers must address the conflicting objectives of the low-carbon agenda and the environmental agenda”

    So there we have it, the big businesses are trying their damdest to de-regulate or change current environmental legislation to allow damage to the environment…talk about madness…Not content with messing up the planet already…they intend to mess it up some more…please do not give me the cop out of “this is to protect the planet” what is the point in europe destroying more wilderness areas to counteract US/China/India emmissions when they are the current culprits. Bild a wind farm/sponsor a flooded glen !!!

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    You mean “Sign up” kidda… you should, it will make a man of you, then again maybe not :) yep you stick to “sign-on” and we will foot the bill…
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    Will do…cheers… outta here now… another month done.
    Emirates beckons.

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    Cause and effect.
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    Guys it’s about controlling or at least containing and stalling barbaric cult…nothing to do with oil this time around…

    I personally fail to see how any end to this can come about without “boots on the Ground”… given that the area of Iraq ( not talking about Syria because that’s another complex interwoven issue)… the coalition is looking at a long term solution…a couple of year down the line they may have driven Daesh back into Syria…and confine the majority of the scum in this one area.

    For now as George Galloway rightly said…we have 20 or so thousand Daesh mixing within a population that’s still there of around 7 million…the boots on the ground must be a coalition of Kurds, Iraqi Tribes and Iraqi Military ( the Iraqi Military in the north are generally, or were generally Sunni conscripts on about $15 a day… The roots of Deash are Sunni (their ethos is something else, none Islamic) The Iraqi military are at the moment a non-entity…

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    Bombing Daesh will have little long term effect…they hide in built up areas, amongst the population and we “hopefully” want to keep civilian casualties and death to a minimum… therefore we bomb them in the open/on the roads… (ref: Hamas and human shields) … The miniscule amount of oil they are selling is going to Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran… it buys favors and arms…

    We have a “Unity” government in Iraq now…how good this turn out to be only time will tell…but without unity this is going to decend into a hellish scenario…

    As for home, the UK… we are a target… we were before this and will be after this… our civil liberties will suffer because of this real threat.

    Murdock please read this article… its total “sense” and shows you exactly how the middle east has ended up in the state it is…yes we played a part…but we are not the cause, we simply accelerated the chaos…

    The Barbarians Within Our Gates…

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/the-barbarians-within-our-gates-111116.html

    Is it a wise decision to fight this plague in Iraq and Syria ? in my opinion yes, but only to keep them stalled there rather than busy elsewhere… its a total mess…and hopefully stop the genocide that is taking place on a daily/hourly basis… 17 coffins lined up at the airport in Basrah this morning, all shia who went north to protect Bagdad from Daesh and have been returned….thats over 70 in the last week…just here…and just the airport.

    I think the long term outcome will be the break up of many of the middle eastern countries back into their original tribal areas/religious areas (Sunni , Shiite)…Iraq being the first to go…if a Unity government fails. Kurdistan is its own country…it is fighting to protect itself and Iraq (weird eh?)

    If we had all voted NO in yesterdays ballot we would have simply have been putting of intervention to later date… we can’t sit Nero like and watch the middle east burn… Iraq is just the blue touch paper… if the middle east burns we all suffer, globally…and thats where the oil comes in…at a much later date.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/09/air-strikes-syria-long-uncertai-201492462044683657.html

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    I think you will find that NHC is just a youngster…14 ? 15 at most…silence speaks volumes.

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11 Responses to Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee …

  1. Very interesting, trying to get my head round it, Tom Johnstone (After leaving Parliament he was Chairman of the Scottish National Forestry Commission (1945-48), Chairman of North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board (1946-59), Chancellor of Aberdeen University (1951-65) and governor of the British Broadcasting Board (1955-56).) led the way at one point for Hydro Power, I might be wrong, no public money was spent, the profit paid of the debt very quickly, then sold of cheaply by Thatcher to give us all cheap energy.

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  2. ‘since all modern stations use the pumped return system’ – if this is a suggestion that pumped storage is the order of the day, I’d be surprised because a good few recent hydro power projects seem to have been ‘run of the river’ which, by definition, can’t be pumped storage.

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  3. My understanding is there is a limit on how much wind power can be connected live to the grid, go above and the grid becomes unstable. Hydro powered by a dam is very stable and the limiting factor is the volume of water. Correct me if I am wrong but Cruachan has started pumping and generating at the same time and a new cavern is in the planning stage along with building a bigger dam. All hydro stations are being reassessed for environmental damage, in America some have been dismantled http://vimeo.com/31305629. There are many good solutions out there, some will not make corporation the profit and will undermined their monopoly.

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    • Are you sure about this, John? – pumping & generating at the same time doesn’t seem to make any sense, and building a bigger dam seems highly improbable, as 10% of the reservoir replenishment comes from feeder canals tapping streams around the mountain – and they’d be too low if the dam was higher, whereas there doesn’t appear to be room to enlarge the reservoir by building a new dam significantly ‘downstream’ from the existing one.
      It’s designed to sell power to the grid at times of peak demand, and replenish the reservoir by using cheap off-peak power to drive the turbines as pumps. Apparently it also provides an almost instant (2 minutes from standing, 30 seconds if spinning) emergency power supply to the grid to ‘kick start’ any other power stations in the event of a major shut-down preventing them from drawing the electricity from the grid that they would need to power-up again.

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      • Reading my comment does not make sense, but the whole nature of the market has evolved. When I was told they were pumping and generating at the same time I did not beleave either. Two different people have told me about the expansion, I know that still does not make it true. Hopefully someone in the known will correct me if I am wrong.

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        • You can pump and generate at the same time. From memory, there are four turbines in the turbine hall under Cruachan. You could have two pumping while two are generating though I’m not sure why that would be desirable.

          As to the amount of wind that can be connected to the grid, I was under the misapprehension that there is a finite limit to how much wind can be connected but the experience from Spain suggests that, though there may be an upper limit, it is much higher than was previously thought and the answer is to have either lots of pumped storage hydro or to have excellent interconnectors so you can draw power from adjacent regions when wind generation in your own region is depressed.

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          • Mind you – that depends on their being separate access tunnels to the turbines. If all turbines are fed by the same tunnel then you couldn’t pump and generate at the same time.

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  4. There are two tunnels feeding four generators and one tail race. So in theory two can generate and two can pump. Interesting to know the hydraulics of water flow in the tail race if they do pump and generate at same time. As I said its what I was told, yes I do find it hard to beleave, but the “unstable” wind generation has brought in a new vairable in to the market. Yet again someone in the know could correct me, years ago I read the maximum of wind power on a grid could only be 16% and then the excess would be exported to a more stable grid. Are we not being conected up to Norway. I may be getting my facts wrong, but there should be an open and transparent debate on energy production.

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  5. Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee rascals.

    As I said months ago the Scottish Government mean to flood more glens to provide pumped storage facilities for energy storage, energy generated by large commercial windfarms.
    Given the huge environmental footprint of resevoirs of any type…this needs to be taken into consideration when folk quote wind as having a small environmental footprint…it does not…whether we are talking conventional back up or pumped storage…large scale commercial wind causes large scale damage to our uninhabited more natural locations.
    I also hasten to add that the recently anounced connection to Norway will also use their spare storage facility or planned storage facility….much as Denmark is doing now…generate/export/store/release/buy back…madness.

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  6. EURELECTRIC position “Trade-offs between environmental legislation and the low-carbon agenda”The 2009 Renewables Energy Directive stipulates the need to support “the use of energy storage systems for integrated intermittent production of energy from renewable sources.” (wind) Yet regulatory obstacles such as disproportionate implementation and too broad interpretation of environmental legislation are impeding the further development of hydropower in Europe”

    .
    Again Euroelectrics position:”Policymakers must address the conflicting objectives of the low-carbon agenda and the environmental agenda”

    So there we have it, the big businesses are trying their damdest to de-regulate or change current environmental legislation to allow damage to the environment…talk about madness…Not content with messing up the planet already…they intend to mess it up some more…please do not give me the cop out of “this is to protect the planet” what is the point in europe destroying more wilderness areas to counteract US/China/India emmissions when they are the current culprits. Bild a wind farm/sponsor a flooded glen !!!

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