Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee …

Comment posted on Water Resources (Scotland) Bill introduced – issues arising by Karl Hughes

Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee rascals.

As I said months ago the Scottish Government mean to flood more glens to provide pumped storage facilities for energy storage, energy generated by large commercial windfarms.
Given the huge environmental footprint of resevoirs of any type…this needs to be taken into consideration when folk quote wind as having a small environmental footprint…it does not…whether we are talking conventional back up or pumped storage…large scale commercial wind causes large scale damage to our uninhabited more natural locations.
I also hasten to add that the recently anounced connection to Norway will also use their spare storage facility or planned storage facility….much as Denmark is doing now…generate/export/store/release/buy back…madness.

Karl Hughes also commented

  • EURELECTRIC position “Trade-offs between environmental legislation and the low-carbon agenda”The 2009 Renewables Energy Directive stipulates the need to support “the use of energy storage systems for integrated intermittent production of energy from renewable sources.” (wind) Yet regulatory obstacles such as disproportionate implementation and too broad interpretation of environmental legislation are impeding the further development of hydropower in Europe”

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    Again Euroelectrics position:”Policymakers must address the conflicting objectives of the low-carbon agenda and the environmental agenda”

    So there we have it, the big businesses are trying their damdest to de-regulate or change current environmental legislation to allow damage to the environment…talk about madness…Not content with messing up the planet already…they intend to mess it up some more…please do not give me the cop out of “this is to protect the planet” what is the point in europe destroying more wilderness areas to counteract US/China/India emmissions when they are the current culprits. Bild a wind farm/sponsor a flooded glen !!!

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  • Salmond to donate First Minister’s pension to charity – for as long as he remains an MSP
    Get a life… never badmouthed anybody…and never talked Scotland or any other of the home nations down…

    as for tax exempt, you know sweet FA about the world from under that damp rock matey… anything that is taxable gets taxed…and I spend the money I earn in the UK (win/win for HM Tax man)… to bail the likes of you out no doubt (?)

    I know who I am backing, but that has nothing to do with cheesy bacteria like yourself.

    PS: My views are still the same as before the indy ref…Policies to improve Scotland…tut, tut Scotlands on a world scale is blessed. Any policies tied in with DECENTRALISATION of holyrude and Westminster within the Union are ok by me…. we might want to start with scrapping MSP pensions, don’t you think ???

    Anyhow, I’ll leave you to your disjointed rants…coming Home to Scotland in a few days to spend my ill got’n gains in Buchanan Street…and enjoy a nice crimbo….and keep of the Buckie because this year you will get nicked….. all the best 4 now.

  • Salmond to donate First Minister’s pension to charity – for as long as he remains an MSP
    Hey, NCH…how’s North sea oil price doing…just saw the latest price pB… thankfully we don’t have to rely on NS oil in an indy sense eh ? if it hits anything less than $72.00 pB there will be moth-balled choppers and vessels up the entire east coast…

    So much for the wee ecks economic master piece…house built on sand and all that… anyhow chum, plenty of oil out here in the desert, enough to float a continent.

  • Salmond to donate First Minister’s pension to charity – for as long as he remains an MSP
    Nope you vacuous entity I am still in Iraq earning a sheckle or two, working ( something you have no idea about)…
    Anyhow, when you put that 15 quids worth of juice in your battered old motor NCH…where does it come from ?

    Enjoy your off the cuff bitter, totally disjointed and evermore misdirected rantings…after all it must be the only joy you have under that damp stone of yours.

    You have to be one of the most amusing, nea sad, she/he/it’s on the web.

    Off to count my coffers…. oh, and PS:

    go check the price of oil just now and ask yourself if your illustrious leaders gamble on building an Indy national socialist nirvana on north zee oil revenue would have worked…yep you swallowed that arbroth smokie whole didn’t you… baaa, baaaa, baaaa. LOL (Salmond…exit stage left)

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/comment-north-sea-oil-puts-finances-on-slippery-slope-1-3598889

    Who are the mislead, lied to sheep now eh ?
    K

  • Salmond to donate First Minister’s pension to charity – for as long as he remains an MSP
    Seems to me the wee eck is simply giving back to people the money the people have already given him ?…no MP should receive a pension…other than a basic state pension unless they are means tested…anyhow, it will be interesting to see which charity or charities he donates his ill gotten gains too…ladbrooks ?

    at least the ex-FM is percieved to be giving something back, whereas the sickly troll NCH (she/he/it) offers nothing…neither financially, intellectually or socially…

  • Stepping down at Perth, Salmond tries to validate his failure by latching on to his party’s success
    The Centralised Single Party Democratic National Socialist State of Scotland … that will be fun…not.

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11 Responses to Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee …

  1. Very interesting, trying to get my head round it, Tom Johnstone (After leaving Parliament he was Chairman of the Scottish National Forestry Commission (1945-48), Chairman of North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board (1946-59), Chancellor of Aberdeen University (1951-65) and governor of the British Broadcasting Board (1955-56).) led the way at one point for Hydro Power, I might be wrong, no public money was spent, the profit paid of the debt very quickly, then sold of cheaply by Thatcher to give us all cheap energy.

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  2. ‘since all modern stations use the pumped return system’ – if this is a suggestion that pumped storage is the order of the day, I’d be surprised because a good few recent hydro power projects seem to have been ‘run of the river’ which, by definition, can’t be pumped storage.

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  3. My understanding is there is a limit on how much wind power can be connected live to the grid, go above and the grid becomes unstable. Hydro powered by a dam is very stable and the limiting factor is the volume of water. Correct me if I am wrong but Cruachan has started pumping and generating at the same time and a new cavern is in the planning stage along with building a bigger dam. All hydro stations are being reassessed for environmental damage, in America some have been dismantled http://vimeo.com/31305629. There are many good solutions out there, some will not make corporation the profit and will undermined their monopoly.

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    • Are you sure about this, John? – pumping & generating at the same time doesn’t seem to make any sense, and building a bigger dam seems highly improbable, as 10% of the reservoir replenishment comes from feeder canals tapping streams around the mountain – and they’d be too low if the dam was higher, whereas there doesn’t appear to be room to enlarge the reservoir by building a new dam significantly ‘downstream’ from the existing one.
      It’s designed to sell power to the grid at times of peak demand, and replenish the reservoir by using cheap off-peak power to drive the turbines as pumps. Apparently it also provides an almost instant (2 minutes from standing, 30 seconds if spinning) emergency power supply to the grid to ‘kick start’ any other power stations in the event of a major shut-down preventing them from drawing the electricity from the grid that they would need to power-up again.

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      • Reading my comment does not make sense, but the whole nature of the market has evolved. When I was told they were pumping and generating at the same time I did not beleave either. Two different people have told me about the expansion, I know that still does not make it true. Hopefully someone in the known will correct me if I am wrong.

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        • You can pump and generate at the same time. From memory, there are four turbines in the turbine hall under Cruachan. You could have two pumping while two are generating though I’m not sure why that would be desirable.

          As to the amount of wind that can be connected to the grid, I was under the misapprehension that there is a finite limit to how much wind can be connected but the experience from Spain suggests that, though there may be an upper limit, it is much higher than was previously thought and the answer is to have either lots of pumped storage hydro or to have excellent interconnectors so you can draw power from adjacent regions when wind generation in your own region is depressed.

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          • Mind you – that depends on their being separate access tunnels to the turbines. If all turbines are fed by the same tunnel then you couldn’t pump and generate at the same time.

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  4. There are two tunnels feeding four generators and one tail race. So in theory two can generate and two can pump. Interesting to know the hydraulics of water flow in the tail race if they do pump and generate at same time. As I said its what I was told, yes I do find it hard to beleave, but the “unstable” wind generation has brought in a new vairable in to the market. Yet again someone in the know could correct me, years ago I read the maximum of wind power on a grid could only be 16% and then the excess would be exported to a more stable grid. Are we not being conected up to Norway. I may be getting my facts wrong, but there should be an open and transparent debate on energy production.

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  5. Stealth entry by the back door eh…you wee rascals.

    As I said months ago the Scottish Government mean to flood more glens to provide pumped storage facilities for energy storage, energy generated by large commercial windfarms.
    Given the huge environmental footprint of resevoirs of any type…this needs to be taken into consideration when folk quote wind as having a small environmental footprint…it does not…whether we are talking conventional back up or pumped storage…large scale commercial wind causes large scale damage to our uninhabited more natural locations.
    I also hasten to add that the recently anounced connection to Norway will also use their spare storage facility or planned storage facility….much as Denmark is doing now…generate/export/store/release/buy back…madness.

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  6. EURELECTRIC position “Trade-offs between environmental legislation and the low-carbon agenda”The 2009 Renewables Energy Directive stipulates the need to support “the use of energy storage systems for integrated intermittent production of energy from renewable sources.” (wind) Yet regulatory obstacles such as disproportionate implementation and too broad interpretation of environmental legislation are impeding the further development of hydropower in Europe”

    .
    Again Euroelectrics position:”Policymakers must address the conflicting objectives of the low-carbon agenda and the environmental agenda”

    So there we have it, the big businesses are trying their damdest to de-regulate or change current environmental legislation to allow damage to the environment…talk about madness…Not content with messing up the planet already…they intend to mess it up some more…please do not give me the cop out of “this is to protect the planet” what is the point in europe destroying more wilderness areas to counteract US/China/India emmissions when they are the current culprits. Bild a wind farm/sponsor a flooded glen !!!

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