The SNP are in real trouble if Anne …

Comment posted Ever Increasing Circles indeed – and a comedy turn for Monday by Anne.

The SNP are in real trouble if Anne Baird and H2O (who seems very informed on Councillor Blair’s career:-))are the only serfs left still sucking up to the Laird of Argyll (Mike Russell). What is correct then Anne Baird? What’s your master’s latest command to make a laughing stock of the SNP? The SNP must think the electorate of Argyll are stupid. Go into opposition until after the referendum and then join the Argyll and Bute in Chaos Group? Going round in Blair’s ever decreasing circles ends with their heads up their own orifices.

Anne also commented

  • Do I smell the universality of cheese from some of the posters?
    Anne Baird – who elected you and to what? Are you the SNP spokesperson or not? Delusions about being a councillor or an MSP?
    Yes over 10 years on and the SNP still eats itself. Not really interested in Mr Russell’s relationships with his female staff, past or present.
    Independence is just over a year away and the SNP in parts of Argyll are doing everything to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! Get out more and talk to real people!
  • H2O do nothing apart from providing a few laughs.
    It seems leaking has been standard practice in SNP for years.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/snp-tracks-e-mail-that-revealed-mike-russell-had-left-his-wife-for-researcher-1.117596

Recent comments by Anne

  • Sturgeon theft attempt on Glasgow Games
    It was on the Council website until the event cancelled due to lack of interest.
    Mr Hayman wants the same deal as everyone else in booking a council facility. It goes on the Council events webpage and he can publicise at the venue. The rest is up to him.
    Looks like it is well publicised now! He must be be thankful to our dumb Unionist council for that! LOL!
  • Pro-indy Sunday Herald seen utterly to concoct smear on Labour
    I hear councillors at Dumbarton took a decision to fly the Palestinian flag.
  • Pro-indy Sunday Herald seen utterly to concoct smear on Labour
    OK so the Herald got the political composition of the council wrong. They will apologise but Labour,Tory or LibDem who can tell them apart just now in their common desire to dis Scotland. No celebration of Scottish games success in Argyll or on this site. http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/columnists/flags-hypocrisy-and-propaganda.24935738
    Added to the banning of the Scottish flag Douglas Hendry is now being accused of political censorship. Mr Hayman is being treated differently read why here http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/hayman-labour-council-is-trying-to-cripple-my-pro-independence-show.24937349
    For Argyll has lost its way immersed in its own bile.
    A totally dysfunctional council gets worse, something everyone thought impossible. There is something wrong when Council management are blatantly and openly making these political decisions. Where are supposed elected political representatives in all this – hiding behind the Directors!
    I don’t believe Scotland will ever recover from a NO vote. A petty victory for the small minded will deprive the rest of us of a better future.
  • Sturgeon theft attempt on Glasgow Games
    The Sunday Herald carries two interesting articles one from Ian Bell on the politicisation of sporting events by Cameron’s Better Together http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/columnists/flags-hypocrisy-and-propaganda.24935738
    and another on the political bias of Douglas Hendry, Director of Customer Services at Argyll & Bute Council. After banning the flying of the Scottish flag until after the referendum he is accused of censorship by the famous actor David Hayman. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/hayman-labour-council-is-trying-to-cripple-my-pro-independence-show.24937349
    Our councillors are silent.
  • Gerry FISHER to represent the SNP in Oban North and Lorn by election
    Gerry Fisher a member of the National Executive Committee of the SNP that took down the SNP council administration on Michael Russell’s instructions. A winning choice by the SNP!
    They must think Oban folk are daft!

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  1. Oh dear, Lynda

    Been talking to your acolytes in Helensburgh & Oban area ie Robb and McCuish?

    Of course they are not novice counsellors so would be able to run a council joint handed effectively and efficiently –jokers all– including the font of all knowledge Lynda and For Argyll— first with the news– first with the resignations that turns out to be untrue or as some may say downright …

    I believe Cllr Blair had many years working in various Local Authorities and at senior management level -maybe that’s what worries some.

    He works with his local church and community youth group’s —long before being a counsellor.

    Maybe that is the problem for the old guard–they see new ideas and new people as a threat particularly those willing to give something back to their community. They have been found out as inadequates and they know it.

    But more importantly is that Councillor Blair will not be bought by morally corrupt individuals who were willing to sacrifice Struan Lodge Residents to get at Councillor Breslin and Walsh, based as we now know on dodgy information personally checked by Cllr Robb as reported on this so called web side.

    Things are coming to a head (and your pals know it) hence your personal attack, as certain councillor’s cling by their fingernails to hold on to their wee responsibility payments.

    Of course as a “properly qualified” journalist? (or are you?) please confirm for accuracy your source(s).—do you have a professional body I could refer too?

    Did you speak to Councillor Blair prior to you fable?

    Based on your attacks on others over the past few months who are not in the Robb or McCuish “camp” I think the answer is No.

    Lets hope THE FOLK WITH INTEGRITY and who have adhered to snp policy (unlike Robb etc) will wash away the old ways and start to listen to the people they are supposed to represent in their communities even if it is a year late.

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    • Just remind me, are we talking about the same honourable Gordon Blair who only managed to abstain in the original Struan Lodge closure vote?

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      • As I understand things. At that time a No vote would result in expulsion based on the councillor rules for the snp. Of course the question should be for the other councillors as to why they voted yes based on trumped up financial figures (which are now discredited) and many who voted yes are now agreeing the Struan should remain open

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  2. “I believe Cllr Blair had many years working in various Local Authorities and at senior management level -maybe that’s what worries some”

    “Maybe that is the problem for the old guard–they see new ideas and new people as a threat particularly those willing to give something back to their community. They have been found out as inadequates and they know it”.

    “But more importantly is that Councillor Blair will not be bought by morally corrupt individuals who were willing to sacrifice Struan Lodge Residents to get at Councillor Breslin and Walsh, based as we now know on dodgy information personally checked by Cllr Robb as reported on this so called web side”

    These three points are spot on H2O, well said.

    It’s a poor show, based only on rumour, having Gordon Blair ridiculed before his supposed presentation, especially if H2O’s info on Gordon’s experience and background is correct.

    This said, I can’t believe we, after the inaccuracies reported on here i.e. Bob Allangate etc., pass comment on something claimed is going to happen before it actually has.

    The time to pass judgement is not on expectations but results.

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  3. Keep it up For Argyll I personally like to know what is going on in Argyll. I’m sure. There will be a presentation if that’s what you say and if there isn’t does it matter. If its a rumour that’s fine. Other wise we the Argyll voters would know bigger all of what’s going on.

    This council is like watch a game of tennis, back and forth but no results, SNP voted in because they said they could a better job than the last administration, no doing everything to get out of power.

    So yes I find it halarious that’ any SNP councillor does a presentation to the SNP about running anything when they can’t seem to do what they said in the first place.

    And of course Blair is a novice councillor how would he be anything else? He’s done nothing so far. Like almost all councillors we seem to have they seem all to have no business experience of running anything on there own.

    Yes it’s a very funny thought indeed, keep it up FA your doing a great job

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    • I would recommend MB you read the poem “Gutter Press” and see if you recognises FA in there? Here is a little bit,

      Gutter Press

      News Editor: Peer Confesses
      Bishop Undresses
      Torso Wrapped in Rug,
      Girl Guide Throttled,
      Baronet Bottled
      J.P. goes to Jug.

      But yesterday’s story
      Old and hoary
      Never mind who got hurt.
      No use grieving
      Let’s get weaving.
      What’s the latest dirt?

      Without corroboration For Argyll is playing a dirty game –without asking the person to confirm or deny is a dirty tactic. Without investigatory input it is valueless.

      But hey !! what does that matter.

      This is not accidental but deliberate and malicious behaviour which appears to have got worse this year. Who is feeding you such filth?
      NEWSIE you have plunged even deeper into the mire.

      I think your judgement is seriously at fault here.

      You still haven’t responded if you are a qualified journalist or if For Argyll is subject to the same rules as the PRESS RE Complaints process. I certainly hope you are not given public funding.

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    • This presentation is on the agenda for the meeting tomorrow.
      It has to be ironic that a councillor who has actively prevented his own party group from running the council, as they were all elected to do, now presumes to address them on how it should be done.
      That is hardly, in the normal view, a qualified position from which to begin such an address.
      While the paper Councillor Blair is to present was written almost exclusively by SNP members, their own party is to be introduced to it several days after the group gave it first to a rival group – to which two of them belong and which they are to support into power.
      Anyone who lives in a world that is normally the right way up would have to find this a pretty odd set of circumstances.
      You can only laugh.

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      • Noone laughs other than For Argyll’s pathetic behaviours. Your pals are worried.

        Fact= Robb etc deliberately ignored NEC rules McCuish appears in the Herald challenging the NEC to take him to task.

        Explain all the resignations. What is the old adage? one is unfortunate , 2 …..3….?

        Poor Management poor leadership despite your fawning over the past and current leaders.

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      • remember everyone these prophecies from Newsie and lets see what if any of these transpires to become fact by the end of the week after the council meeting on Thursday. By the way Newsie it is normal for Meeting agenda to be sent to the participants which loyal SNP member leaked it to you or are you still on their mailing list?

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    • If you think that this web site has the facts on the low down of the inner working of Argyll and Bute Council, you are way short of the mark.
      Despite various contributors requests, Newsie still does not quote statements from interviews she has conducted with any or all of the players involved. Probably because unlike real journalists she refrains from making any.
      She repeats third hand innuendo, rumours, and speculations. Sometimes of course she is downright wrong.
      Personal attacks on anyone are less than helpful. Comments on a statement or actual action is a different matter. There are many statements made by James Robb, Roddy McCuish and Louise Glen Lee about colleagues, their personal affairs, some of which are shown here, and their perception of what should take place, but nothing from other councillors of persons named on these pages. Is that because they feed her, most of the disingenuous information we see printed here?

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  4. The distateful nastiness of For Argyll sinks to new depths. Gordon Blair, who works tirelessly in this community with the church and the hugely successful Cowal Fiddle workshop for young people was offered lead councillor role and the money that goes with it to buy his support for a course of action he believed to be wrong. He refused it unlike a number of others whose only present concern seems to be to keep those perks.
    As has been pointed out he has worked at a high level for both Argyll and Bute Council and Renfrewshire Council and before that in James Watt College. Unlike some others he knows how to do things and he knows what could be done with the huge untapped potential in Argyll and Bute.

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  5. H2o
    Rather than read poems I suggest you go and read what has happened in Argyll and Bute sinse this Administration has taken over. I think I’ll base my thoughts on reality. Blair may have worked very hard with the church community and James Watt, but what we actually voted for was someone who worked tirelessly for the council and his voters, all that’s happened is he’s been used as a pawn, and of course he didn’t take the job, he couldn’t at that point. So just a new pawn.

    It’s not about what you write here or what you read, it’s what everyone that you meet thinks about what’s happening in local politics.

    I did no know what he did before, but it stands out that he wasn’t in business and your list confirms that just one one public sector work,

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    • Thanks MB at least you admit to not knowing about the things you commented upon earlier– I will enlighten you as NEWSIE as your only source is not reliable.

      You say “It’s not about what you write here or what you read, it’s what everyone that you meet thinks about what’s happening in local politics.”— Cllr Blair helps and has helped the area he represents. He has fought the Struan Lodge closure proposals despite threats etc.

      “I did no know what he did before, but it stands out that he wasn’t in business and your list confirms that just one one public sector work,”
      – he has worked for various types of employer but has vast experience in other local authorities –maybe just maybe ABC might learn from this?
      Roddy McCuish worked for the PO –WHO KNOWS BEST HOW LOCAL AUTHORITIES WORK?

      “…, but what we actually voted for was someone who worked tirelessly for the council and his voters, all that’s happened is he’s been used as a pawn, and of course he didn’t take the job, he couldn’t at that point. So just a new pawn”

      .–You are wrong –he would have been a pawn if he accepted the deal from the Leader of the council to take a promoted post but vote for the closure of Struan Lodge –He said No and the problems started and despite the bullying behaviours he has had to endure.

      In fact NEWSIE’s little story that set this blog off is EXACTLY an example of this— she is fed information and she is keeping it going. She is inciting and aiding the bullies otherwise she would have got the Councillors views. Of course a view other than the one she has been fed from the Oban or Helensburgh area is not wanted or sought.

      Personally I could ignore all this but ABC deserves better and I believe it can happen but not with the current incumbents that have put us in the mess.

      Remember the other councillors who resigned –they are now trying to get rid off Cllr McIntyre from Bute etc. It is very unfortunate that 5 nasty greedy people with influence have done this to ABC

      There is hope however some others have realised how they have been used (as pawns) they are moving away from Cllr Robb and McCuish. For the latter he has been the biggest pawn of all which is a shame for someone who is basically decent but has lost their way recently.

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      • “– he has worked for various types of employer but has vast experience in other local authorities –maybe just maybe ABC might learn from this?
        Roddy McCuish worked for the PO –WHO KNOWS BEST HOW LOCAL AUTHORITIES WORK?”……… flitted from job to job? not good on any CV . One employer, obviously trustworthy and respected, Roddy was also brought up in Dunstaffnage/Dunbeg where doors were never closed and neighbours looked out for each other,as good a grounding for any caring councillor without laying claim to working with the church and involvement in youth Fiddling groups??

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        • Ask Newsie why she wrote the story?
          Who primed her?
          The fact that Roddy Mcuish could walk about where doors weren’t locked etc is what qualification to run a council?
          Personally that’s a new one on me.

          This and other questions above Why? including -what trusted councillor “leaked” the agenda etc

          Lynda was trying to do a hatchet job on Councillor Blair ie “This has to be a joke – except that the number of sources of the same rumour, some earnestly talking up the event, some choking on the cheek of it and some just laughing – indicate that it may actually be true. What next?”

          By smearing him as an individual, by false comments and yet she has chosen not to ask his opinion.

          This was done for a reason. I understand there is a SNP group meeting today with the last die been thrown by those wanting to remain in power– therein lies the reason. Should be an interesting meeting.

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          • ….if you’d read on I said “and neighbours looked out for each other,as good a grounding for any caring councillor without laying claim to working with the church and involvement in youth Fiddling groups??” What specifically did he do for A&B, Renfrewshire and James Watt? What makes him a better councillor than any one else?

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        • Emphasis on the fiddling groups. I have my doubts if you ever lived in Boomtown.
          The betting is that Duncan Mac Intyre sold his soul to the devil at last weeks meeting with Russell. Whatever the outcome of that meeting Mac will profit from it financially. Be sure of that!
          The return of Mac to lead the council or any other organisation is the kiss of death for any progress on anything including Chord. .

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          • who said I lived in Boomtown?? My point was that Roddy had an upbringing that brought out the best in people who shared same, and in my humble opinion more than qualifies him to undertake council duties!

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    • What planet are you on? Public service is what the council is suppose to be all about. The last person I heard say I am running a business was James Robb in the Queens Hall in Dunoon. Public Service is suppose to be backed by a desire to work for the common good not personal gain either for money or prestige. New to being a councillor is an opportunity for fresh ideas to be brought forward. This council has lost the ability to cooperate, respect for fellow councillors, and the ability to come to a decision without putting personal gratification into the mix.

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  6. Does the fact that you are able to quote from an agenda you shouldn’t have access to not indicate to you that you are speaking to a disruptive, disloyal rogue? And does it not also confirm that you have no firm information about what is to be presented?

    This is shoddy, partisan nonsense.

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    • There is a major internal contradiction in this comment between the frustration with the accuracy of our information and the imperative for automatic denial.
      Our information comes from many sources and, as we said, this came also [and first] from some pointing supportively to Councillor Blair’s upcoming presentation – days before the agenda was distributed.
      When we could not use it then because we had no confirmation that the information was correct, those same sources confirmed it as soon as the agenda came out.
      There are people who have done what they are told but who nevertheless have their discomforts and are trying to justify their actions to themselves.

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  7. Fairy tales don’t come true. It will not happen to you, if you are FA at heart. Newsie keep up the investigative reporting.

    I am positive that the SNP NEC will have the silver bullet out this week for the four nags of the apocalypse. Surely, not another week of another dead administration.

    Have they no respect for their constituents. If this is the forerunner for Independence. God help us

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    • “If this is the forerunner for Independence. God help us”

      Please stop conflating with what is happening locally with the national workings.

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      • Why? What else are we to go on when there is little information about the reality of independence other than that it is being pushed by the SNP?

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    • Dross– you are a comedian –investigative journalism?!! where?– no doubt to the standard of the old World in Action programme or Panorama or even the Watergate Scandal– but who is “Deep Throat”??!

      How is the investigation undertaken? –a wee cup of tea wearing false moustaches (although 1 might be natural)in darkest Oban or Tarbert, or clandestine email or fax (fingerprints wiped clean) or with Watergate in mind an anonymous telephone call (garbled voice–but that could be so many councillors with a high pitch voice?)

      And the For Argyll exclusive is there is a meeting today to discuss issues. But of course this is just fun the nasty part is the attempt by FArgyll to denigrate an individual —who wasn’t even asked for their opinion. Tactics Sound Familiar?

      So Dross –tell me what the investigative journalism has been that will see awards galore heading to Argyll.

      Please use the following as your benchmark
      EDITORS CODE

      1

      Accuracy

      i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.

      ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and – where appropriate – an apology published. In cases involving the Commission, prominence should be agreed with the PCC in advance.

      iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.

      iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published

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  8. Thx H2o
    For your reply, it’s good that you back up and speak for Councillor Blair, but I can not see any experience in running a council from his given CV. Robbi ran circles round Blair and Breslin with the Struan Lodge vote as they where new and inexperienced councillors in reality the only way they will get in at the next election is as independents, I’m just a normal Joe on the streets and I don’t know anyone that will think that staying with the SNP is a career move, after being tricked by Rob or just plain lied to as it turns out. Plus if you resign from the SNP group you should stand for re election that is the rules they asked to be voted in on, so why they still part of this and not part of that group is just wrong.

    None of this show experience not even Robb as just plain not telling the truth is not experience in my book.

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  9. How come its just councillors that can put a motion forward to ask for everyone to step down from positions and then re elect after when those very people don’t step down and put the selfs up for re election as per the rules?

    Is there a chance the public could put forward a motion to ask them all to step down and put them selfs up for re election, or I’m I living in the same fantasy land as them ? Got to laugh

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  10. Barmore, open your eyes and mind. Oh, I forgot your head is stuck in the sands of the Kilmory swamp .

    Are you saying to posters that the SNP councillor’s irresponsibility will not have an impact on the 2014 referendum. How short sighted of you. lol. BTW I am a member of the moribund Argyll SNP.

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  11. Whether or not any particular councillor is properly equipped to advise any other on how to run a council is arguable and I guess the proof is always in the eating.

    However what can be said is that at least there is some sign that somebody somewhere has decided enough is enough and is trying to bring about some structure and hopefully a council with more opportunity for speaking without fear.

    Under Dick Walsh we certainly had a firm structure but is was a structure created by ruling with an iron rod where too many councillors were either scared to voice an opinion or too concious of the appointments they were given in order to secure their consistent pandering to his wishes.

    Post Dick Walsh we have seen the total opposite. A lot more freedom of speech but less structure than a planning application in Istanbul.

    Neither situations are acceptable in local government so here is hoping that whatever situation we end up with it is a sensible half way house between the two.

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  12. Thought FOR ARGYLL may find this helpful before placing online ANY story

    EDITORS CODE

    1

    Accuracy

    i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.

    ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and – where appropriate – an apology published. In cases involving the Commission, prominence should be agreed with the PCC in advance.

    iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.

    iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published.

    2

    Opportunity to reply

    A fair opportunity for reply to inaccuracies must be given when reasonably called for.

    3

    *Privacy

    i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

    ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual’s private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant’s own public disclosures of information.

    iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent.

    Note – Private places are public or private property where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.

    4

    *Harassment

    i) Journalists must not engage in intimidation, harassment or persistent pursuit.

    ii) They must not persist in questioning, telephoning, pursuing or photographing individuals once asked to desist; nor remain on their property when asked to leave and must not follow them. If requested, they must identify themselves and whom they represent.

    iii) Editors must ensure these principles are observed by those working for them and take care not to use non-compliant material from other sources.

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    • If I had the time and could be arsed, I would now put together a similar document aimed at Councillors …. However I am sure that there are people here better equipped than I to do this though. Starting with “I shall act with dignity and honesty in representing the interests of my constituents ….”

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      • Talking about tickets at Oban International Airport.
        Can anyone tell me why Argyll and Bute officials and councillors bought 454 tickets from OIA to fly the planet in the last financial year. This information was gleaned from a recent restricted report on a local meeting on the airport where all the finances were outlined. Maybe they were bus tickets to Oban .

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  13. I think that Councillor Blairs vast experience was actually working out Bus time tables, I don’t think this is the experience were looking for in “how to run a administration” maybe it should be “how to run away from a administration”

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    • Registrar at James Watt College. Caledonian University, Education Services Strathclyde Regional Council, Renfrew Council.
      MB what do you do?
      Wait for a bus?

      You do tend to emphasise my point that the attempt by people like you to denigrate individuals is the lowest of the low.

      Would you agree?

      Moral high ground you certainly ain’t.

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  14. H2O
    Thanks for the job list, I still don’t see anything in that CV that would qualify Mr Blair to present a presentation of how to run a council. I live in the reality of life. I don’t wait for a bus, I’ve had to stop waiting for the Ferry to see if it will run. I’ve had to start using the western ferries to get me to work. I’ve had to seek employment out with my own area because there is nothing happening job wise in Argyll. So when I see someone like Mr Blair giving lectures on how to run a council having been played like a violin by his own party, who are doing anything they can to get out of running the council, you have had three leaders already.

    I am not denigrating Mr Blair I’m only stating the very obvious non qualification for giving advice to his party,

    I’m not claiming any high moral ground as there is none to claim anymore with this administration. I don’t take wages from the council so I don’t have to tell you what I do, or would that make a difference all you need to know is that I was asked for my vote and it was given although it seems now its been wasted, so I’m a resident if Argyll who voted for SNP for the last time. So if you want high moral ground you just have that to.

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    • Unfortunately you are taken in by NEWSIE’S spin.

      In her slight back tracking –she is good at this it states that “While the paper Councillor Blair is to present was written almost exclusively by SNP members”

      Cllr Blair is merely speaking on behalf of the group not the author of the document but of course in her leader she doesn’t mention this but attacks him in a personal capacity. –ask I keep asking why?–she never answers for she is acting as a proxy for others or is it patsy?

      He is more than capable of presenting a paper. Look at the encumbemt’s are they up to the mark?. After Thursday let’s hope we shall see the end of this divisive period–but who will feed NEWSIE the inside track?

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      • There is no back tracking whatsoever.
        We have said that Councillr Blair was one of the authors of this proposition – and we have separately said, correctly, that the document was authored almost exclusively by members of the SNP. These are the councillors and party officers identified. Are you saying that Councillor Blair is NOT a member of the SNP?
        The sole author of Ever Increasing Circles who is not a member of the SNP is independent Councillor Iain Angus Macdonald.

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        • For weeks you have been saying he had resigned from the SNP!! At last –we will agree he is a member of the snp.
          Do you believe your personal attack on him is justified?
          Your loyal informant(s) do they live in the Oban area? Mull?–just curious

          You might have said thanks for the info on Editors.

          Can you explain why you never speak to the persons that you write about to confirm your facts?

          How is Thursday council meeting looking?

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          • You seem to be suffering from an inadequate supply of h20.
            We have said [repeatedly] that he had resigned from the SNP group – correct; had been talked back in – correct; and had been given dispensation to continue as a member of the SNP group and the party – while being an active member of an opposition group openly aiming to replace the administration led by his own party – correct.
            This flagrant abuse of the party’s own membership rule [6.2] is possible only because the party hierarchy themselves want to get their own party out of power in Argyll and Bute – at all costs, even of national as well as local credibility.

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          • Just what has Mull got to do with all this bitching? There is consistently more news and debate about the bottom half of Argyll & Bute than the north end and the isles. Of course no-one pays the slightest bit of attention that those of Mull were done out of their care home.

            Frankly I am so contemptuous of the way all politicians have been carrying on that we should sack the lot and demand new elections as it seems to me not one of the present lot have a legitimate mandate from the electorate to govern.

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      • Added to our earlier response, we have also said, correctly, that Councillor Blair resigned from the SNP group and joined the Argyll and Bute for Change group; and, correctly, that he was talked out of resigning from the group with dispensation from the impact of Membership Rule 6.2 to allow him simultaneously to become a member of another group – in opposition to the SNP-led administration and intending to replace it.
        The letter and spirit of Rule 6.2 could be so flagrantly disregarded were the SNP party hierarchy not so determined to force their local group of councilors OUT of power at all costs – including the party’s national, as well as local, credibility.
        Councillor Blair’s dispensation is granted also to two SNP colleagues, Councillors Robert E MacIntyre from Bute and Provost Isobel Strong from Bute.
        The voting on Thursday should tell some interesting stories.
        Councillors Blair and RE MacIntyre have already voted [with immunity] against their party group, in supporting Duncan MacIntyre and not Roddy McCuish as Council Leader last time out.
        Defend that.

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        • Newsroom what do you know about SNP rules?Are you getting your interpretation from James Robb perhaps? Him who was told by s fellow SNP councillor that his actions were against the rules, and a member of staff at Kilmory heard him say, well change the rules.
          You have not interviewed any of the SNP office bearers or questioned them about the rules just state incorrect information and your interpretation of what you have been shown or told. It is no secret that James Robb has been trying to get Gordon Blair and others thrown out the party continually because in his view they are guilty. He was short in applying the correct procedures with Michael Breslin and ignored many various rules, ask him.

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    • MB we have council officials that are hardly fit for purpose. Louden, Henry, Sneddon et al. They all have qualifications but ability is seriously lacking. Now integrity that is another matter altogether.

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  15. H2O

    I think if you knew what was actually going on I think you would not have waited to your tenth post to point this out? At least the boats will be running tomorrow with a lovely forecast.

    Thx for the polite reply this time,

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    • Sorry Newsie
      I think you have been on the gin or worse. Cllr Blair has never resigned from the SNP.
      He was suspended at the same time as I understand it with All the other SNP councillors as a result of Robb and McCuish sleazy and clandestine dealings with the Tories and Lib Dems. A bit unfair I thought as only a select few knew of the shenanigans. A bit like the whole class at school being punished.
      All councillors were reinstated as they all agreed to abide to the rules. As you know a select view elected on an snp ticket thought they were above all of that sort of thing and continued as normal. Of course they demanded no free thinkers but I am sure your source would have told you this.
      Are you not glad I found the Editors code. I believe it would be helpful if you followed it for your own credibility.
      EDITORS CODE
      1
      Accuracy
      i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.
      ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and – where appropriate – an apology published. In cases involving the Commission, prominence should be agreed with the PCC in advance.
      iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.
      iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published.
      2.
      Opportunity to reply
      A fair opportunity for reply to inaccuracies must be given when reasonably called for.

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  16. The SNP are in real trouble if Anne Baird and H2O (who seems very informed on Councillor Blair’s career:-))are the only serfs left still sucking up to the Laird of Argyll (Mike Russell). What is correct then Anne Baird? What’s your master’s latest command to make a laughing stock of the SNP? The SNP must think the electorate of Argyll are stupid. Go into opposition until after the referendum and then join the Argyll and Bute in Chaos Group? Going round in Blair’s ever decreasing circles ends with their heads up their own orifices.

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    • On a point of information – Councillors Blair and RE MacIntyre are already members of Argyll and Bute for Change. Their names were listed amongst the members of that group when its existence was notified to elected members by the appropriate senior officer with whom this group had been registered – 15 minutes before the start of the last council meeting.
      We are not aware of any later resignations from Argyll and Bute for Change; and understand that Councillor Isobel Strong the Provost, has also joined it, along with Councillor Robert G Macintyre from Lomond who, to do so dumped – again – his own group leader, the respected Councillor George Freeman.
      It is important to note that at the time this group was formed, councillors were NOT aware that regulations allowed simultaneous membership of more than one group. It was only later that it emerged that council officer had not acquainted elected members of Argyll and Bute Council that, in spite of that rule having been officially set aside some considerable time ago, officers had simply decided to maintain the status quo.
      At that stage, Councillors Blair and RE MacIntyre, were consciously leaving the SNP group but had been privately assured that they would not therefore lose their party membership. Rule 6.2 makes that an imperative in such circumstances – but hey…

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      • Is that why George Freeman is still being paid as a lead councillor of the administration when Douglas Henry the same one sent an email stating that he had resigned from any previous grouping to join ALI [ Argyll Lomond and the Isles]

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      • Hi Newsie

        How you finding the meeting going?

        Your not looking to happy despite your boy Roddy cuddling up with the tories and lib dems.

        Does he not realise he is not supposed to do that?

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    • Anne thought you were going to resign from the SNP? Are you still trying to help some of their councillors in Oban hang on to their nosebags and keep their lead councillors stipends or are you back doing the day job?

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  17. Hi Anne
    Are you really an Anne?
    You never answer my question based on a post that you were a man an ex councillor. If you don’t want to answer that’s fine- just say.
    A wee hint ask around, seek corroboration (see Dave McEwan-hill post above) and find out what is happening and then make your mind up. Just what I am doing to you. At least I have tried NEWSIE does neither.
    I don’t belief I would call anyone stupid but in fairness you could be the first! What people do with their heads in the privacy of their own homes is their own business isn’t that right Anne? Ex councillor?- ex SNP?

    Ps As for MSP Russell I have never met so cannot really comment other that his link with Cllr Breslin ex SNP has not been helpful over the past months as far as I can see but Cllr Breslin was right that the finances put forward by the officials were wrong. Why Robb believed them I will never know.

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  18. Oh dear

    Another nose in the gutter

    ”As this is not an SNP e-mail account this was clearly malicious, but we don’t know if it involves an individual with a grudge, someone inside the party, or someone in another party.”

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    • Oh Dear Oh Dear you really have hit rock bottom May 2003 yes folks May 2003 this comes from the gutter. Your head is nearly as deep into it as your Councillor friends that masquerade as SNP councillors in the north of the county are into the pork barrel.
      shame on you

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  19. Anne, you are plain objectionable. There are no masters and serfs in the SNP and if you were actually an active member you’d know I’m not much inclined to take advice from anyone who thinks they’re superior as it most often is a symptom of delusion. Happily few suffer from it and none of them are likely to change the fate ofi the nation.

    I much prefer debate and collective decision as a guide, especially since this can be achieved without resort to personal attacks. When you get involved in that kind of stuff you have to consider whether your beliefs or ideas have any merit .

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  20. Do I smell the universality of cheese from some of the posters?
    Anne Baird – who elected you and to what? Are you the SNP spokesperson or not? Delusions about being a councillor or an MSP?
    Yes over 10 years on and the SNP still eats itself. Not really interested in Mr Russell’s relationships with his female staff, past or present.
    Independence is just over a year away and the SNP in parts of Argyll are doing everything to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! Get out more and talk to real people!

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  21. Anne
    Who are you to talk.
    You are an offensive individual who months ago stated they were resigning from the SNP and would be outed.
    You print garbage from an article over someone’s personal life- I hope you wash your hands regularly
    Now we hear that you are on old man and ex cooncillor and not in the SNP!?? Surely 1 might be right are they all wrong?
    So what are you — are you a real person?
    I am hoping that come Thursday some of the nonsense that has plagued ABC will have turned a corner.
    I suspect that you and a few other saddo’s would prefer it to continue ad infinitum.

    Of course this is about changing the original story line as it is exposed as garbage.

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  22. Jade, much as I agree that the last few months have been difficult, I can’t agree that we should sack the lot. Councillors often work far more hours than they’re paid for and work really hard on behalf of the people in their wards and the region. They may disagree with each other about the best way to do that but the majority of councillors really do try their best for the common good. Don’t let the actions of the few blind us to the decent majority.

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  23. Newsroom, being in charge of an agenda item doesn’t mean any of the things you extrapolate from it. If, for instance, the agenda item was nuclear energy would you conclude that the councillor in charge of that was intending to lecture people on it?

    Nor does it justify holding a sincere and intelligent man up to ridicule or making him the only one in the region whose qualifications are scrutinised and trashed.

    And since when was years of experience a merit in itself? I am sure we all know of some who doggedly hold back progress. Equally we know of new people who bring fresh thinking or a new perspective. What’s the problem with a sensible balance of old and new?

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