Coracle – maybe there is no SNP candidate …

Comment posted Current council coalition seeks to impose future political management by Simon.

Coracle – maybe there is no SNP candidate in Crazy’s area….. ;)

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  • Crazy – what link??

    And “doc” you doing mind reading as well now??? “What Integrity of course meant…. “

  • Integrity – oh c’mon off it – “ARSN aren’t a political group”.

    Of course they are. They might not be a political party but their actions are those of a political group. Gawd’s sake even the advert top right of the For Argyll page says ‘Vote ARSN’!!

    Duh!!!!

  • Gawd you lot are obesssed. Robert you’ve cracked the Damascus gay female one before and trust me it wasn’t near funny the first time either.

    “doc” predicatable as ever – trying to make a funny – but obviously that operation he had was a humour by-pass.

    Crazy-living up to her name as per…

    Still, ah know you’re all excited! Not long to go now – but calm down dears (honestly it’s just like talking to the kids before Christmas…. :)

  • James, ‘infantile’ is being unable to muster enough votes to win a vote and then whining about it afterwards. ;)

    Have you thought that mibbie Tricky did it – just because he could??

    CSB – don’t be a silly-crazy – no. As to who I shall vote for – well having read various leaflets, party pamplets (including absolute tripe from one candidate) and listend bored out my skull to a snp advocate – I shall be voting Independent. :)

    And you??

  • Tim, why would I be nervous mate? I’m not employed by the Council, I’m not a councillor, not standing for election nor a member of a political party. What have I got to be nervous about?

    It’s those who are making fairly rash predictions and stupid promises that are nervous and they might yet end up with egg on their faces. And post-election I guarantee Neurotic Newsie will either a) be praising the electorate for their good sense or b)dammning them for their stupidity….

    I will have a good evening thanks Tim – you too :)

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  • Save Castle Toward campaign brings it on home to Walsh and MacQueen
    Where are HIE in all of this? If there really is £8 million of investment and 80+ jobs on offer why are HIE not putting up/guaranteeing the £1 million difference? They are after all the economic development agency are they not?
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    Graeme, so that we are all clear on what you are proposing ‘The council would buy in the services it required from public service bureaux’ this is the further privatisation of council services is it not?
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    I don’t know about anyone else but if I was asking for a one million pound reduction on an independent valuation price I think I might be trying to get alongside the sellers and understand their problems and their real difficulties rather than trying to publicly embarrass them with allegations.

    As I’ve said elsewhere this ‘attack dog’ policy is misguided, badly advised and surely can only be counter-productive. A project with significant potential might just wither on the vine because the increasingly politicised and polarised handling of this matter. I’ve also said previously that this decision is not an easy ask (Dick Walsh refers obliquely to just some of the difficulties)and that this group would be far better trying to understand and help resolve those problems instead of naively trying to publicly pressurise and embarrass individual councillors.

    On a very human level I must confess that if I was a councillor on the receiving end of manufactured emails and personal attacks I would be disinclined to give the group responsible my support.

  • An unexpected pairing to email in Day 8′s Save Castle Toward Advent Calendar
    In the event the council did sell the property at £1 million below valuation what would happen if(despite all the cosy assurances and claims that ‘it makes sound economic sense’) the project fails? What happens then? What happens to the property? Does it revert to the Council? Or, is it sold at a knockdown price to pay off debts?
  • Castle Toward: Councillor Breslin asks straight questions of Council Leader Walsh
    Aral. Are these jobs guaranteed? What if the project fails – does the property come back to us the council taxpayer? Can the council even give away a property valued at £1.75 million for £750k? What other project anywhere in Argyll has received this level of subsidy?

    I’m not being anti the local group but there are some serious questions here that need answered. And indulging in childish stunts or making personal attacks does NOTHING to advance their cause – neither does suggesting that I’m employed by ABC – I’m not.

    I do however have genuine concerns about this project and as a council tax-payer being asked to subsidise this group to the tune of £1 million I would ask – would everyone who backs them agree to underwrite the losses in the event the project fails?

    Would you Aral?

    I’ve already said I’m not involved with the council – are you involved directly/indirectly with the project Aral?

    I’m a neutral observer in this – are you?

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    • Crazy She-Vampire-Bat!

      Last days in the bunker moving the non-existent divisions around. Only four days now until the good guys tanks are parked on the castle lawn. I wonder if they will find any interesting skeletons in the ruins of the doomed Administration?

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  1. I’m not familiar enough with some of the procedural stuff relating to this story – how can the current Administration tie the hands of the new one? If they vote now to ‘recommend’ the retention of the Executive Committee, can a new ruling group not simply ignore the recommendation after the election, if they want to?

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  2. So, the Council pass a motion recommending (ie not binding) a structure to the incoming council and Newsie spins it “which tries to imposes the status quo ” and starts foaming at the mooth again.

    There is no story.

    Settle down dears – still 3 days to go…. :)

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  3. Robert, given that “the Executive had set up [the Short Life Working Group]* to review the matter of political management arrangements” it seems only reasonable that the Council comes to a decision on the matter before it is dissolved.

    An incoming Council of whatever hue need of course take no notice of the recommendation – regardless of the nonsense spin Newsie tries to put on it. But by ensuring the Council voted on it Cllr Walsh was ensuring also that his admistration concluded on a bit of business that it had set up.

    Everything else about this story is just so much froth and some who should know better are getting their knickers in a twist over nothing at all other than Newsie’s over-wrought and cooncil-conspiracy-ridden imagination..

    Hope that helps :)

    * my brackets

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    • Simon, I find myself in the odd position of thanking you for answering my question. I will try not to let it happen again :-)

      Are you feeling nervous about the future?

      Have a nice evening!

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  4. Tim, why would I be nervous mate? I’m not employed by the Council, I’m not a councillor, not standing for election nor a member of a political party. What have I got to be nervous about?

    It’s those who are making fairly rash predictions and stupid promises that are nervous and they might yet end up with egg on their faces. And post-election I guarantee Neurotic Newsie will either a) be praising the electorate for their good sense or b)dammning them for their stupidity….

    I will have a good evening thanks Tim – you too :)

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  5. The motion to continue meets all of Simon’s points about concluding a piece of business. So why should Cllr Walsh and his Coalition feel any amendment necessary.
    It was just infantile politics for the Trinity knew that no opposition member could recommend the proposals to any future administration.

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    • James is right. This was just petty and a waste of everyone’s time. The paper should have never been submitted as an agenda item.

      What the Council should have been doing (as others have) is pulling together some different models of governance delivery and then presenting these options to the administration (whatever its make up) after the election.

      This is the stuff of school playgrounds.

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  6. “Tim, why would I be nervous mate? I’m not employed by the Council, I’m not a councillor, not standing for election nor a member of a political party.” – Simon

    Well if thats the case, bearing in mind all the inside info you have, begs me to ask, are you Sally bin Loudon’s husband then? :)

    I asked before and now I hope you have had a chance to read through the snash from the candidates, so who are you voting for?

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  7. James, ‘infantile’ is being unable to muster enough votes to win a vote and then whining about it afterwards. ;)

    Have you thought that mibbie Tricky did it – just because he could??

    CSB – don’t be a silly-crazy – no. As to who I shall vote for – well having read various leaflets, party pamplets (including absolute tripe from one candidate) and listend bored out my skull to a snp advocate – I shall be voting Independent. :)

    And you??

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  8. Hmmmm, not Sally’s husband… are you actually a bloke? Stranger things have happened lol

    Postal vote already away, I voted for:

    1. An INDEPENDENT Independent
    2. An INDEPENDENT Independent
    3, 4, 5, 6 – can’t remember the exact order
    7. Danny Kelly

    Anyone but Danny :)

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  9. Gawd you lot are obesssed. Robert you’ve cracked the Damascus gay female one before and trust me it wasn’t near funny the first time either.

    “doc” predicatable as ever – trying to make a funny – but obviously that operation he had was a humour by-pass.

    Crazy-living up to her name as per…

    Still, ah know you’re all excited! Not long to go now – but calm down dears (honestly it’s just like talking to the kids before Christmas…. :)

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  10. Got a lovely leaflet through from Ken Smith last night. He might be third on my list (can’t remember).

    Coracle – I’ve said it again and again – I have no political affiliation and I think it was a little more than just the SNP that saved the school ;)

    For the record, there is one person standing in Lomond North who deserves my vote more than anyone and thats the one that stood up and spoke out against the closures on the 25th of November 2010 and was unwaivering in his support of Luss Primary School throughout that horrific and tumultous time – GEORGE FREEMAN.

    I want to vote for someone who has principles, no matter what the personal cost and who will dogmatically represent the views of the people he represents.

    George is my No.1 purely on the commitment he showed to Luss and its primary school.

    I think he flippin well deserves it.

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  11. well played csb and arsn – that dumb snp no longer required! if i remember right the snp gave up power to save your school – a third place vote is perfect. what do rest of arsn say about this?

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  12. Yes, I’m an ARSN member – which is a group of parents and community members from across Argyll that have gotten together over a common purpose.
    We all have different political views and backgrounds (mine as I have stated on here before was Labour for many years).
    The above is my personal view on the candidates in my area and nothing to do with ARSN Coracle, but congrats on the nice try at stirring it.

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  13. Integrity – oh c’mon off it – “ARSN aren’t a political group”.

    Of course they are. They might not be a political party but their actions are those of a political group. Gawd’s sake even the advert top right of the For Argyll page says ‘Vote ARSN’!!

    Duh!!!!

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  14. Crazy – what link??

    And “doc” you doing mind reading as well now??? “What Integrity of course meant…. “

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  15. Might I suggest that once the election is over Forargyll arranges a Forargyll Lunch for all its contributors this past year (at amodest charge)?

    It could be a great bun fight!

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  16. BUN FIGHT!!!! Yes yes yes! Simon, you can wear a disguise!

    Simon, ARSN’s lovely advert top right, click on it. Should take you to the list.

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