Comment posted Council Elections: The count by newsroom.
All that we can think of here is that any comment you are aware of as unpublished may have been written without the ‘Post comment’ button being properly activated.
Two of us have been sharing the monitoring of comments over the life of this article and neither of us has blocked a single comment – something we have almost never had to do.
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- Sorry Paula. That is flatly incorrect and you cannot therefore have any evidence for it whatsoever.
In our entire lifespan we have blocked fewer than 10 comments – and that’s allowing for memory loss. They have been blocked because they were fully actionable, scatological or smearing for political advantage.
We have also banned one person permanently because he persisted in clear libel in what was clearly a personal obsession that had nothing to do with anyone else.
We sin-binned another for a period for an instance of outrageously poisonous manipulation.
If anything, we should arguably have blocked a lot more comments, not in our own interests – it is patently obvious that we let anyone say what they like about us – but to offer more protection to some individuals than we have done.
We have perhaps been overly tolerant in such cases because we prefer contributors to self-edit in the interests of observing a basic standard of civility and we believe that most people will do so.
- Thank you. It can, of course, be added at any time.
- Simon – just lose the blinkers and read what’s being said. There was no suggestion that there is anything wrong with ‘urban based’ anythings.
This was a serious response to your comment. It’s important to try the ‘what ifs?’ What if this is a serious matter and not a squib?
If it wasn’t a serious point but merely another squib through our letter box, then there is no use trying to engage. Email your address and we’ll send you a box of Bengal matches to play with.
- And we don’t bother so much here about the state Iraq has been left in by our illegal intervention.
It’s a matter of scale, Simon but it’s the same thing.
We have all to try to understand the condition of the other.
If one is a townie or a teuchter – to use the pejoratives for both – one cannot ‘know’ what it is to be the other; but one can ask, discover and intuit.
The problem with the school closures was driven, in part, by the phenomenon you identify: urban-based councillors adopting a position on rurality with no experience or understanding of rural communities, the way they work and they way they can fail.
It was the complacent assumption that a position of ignorance was somehow a qualification for superior wisdom that was the can of petrol in this inflammation.
In this case, as you rightly say, the people of Helensburgh didn’t and don’t think rural schools lke Luss and Kilcreggan matter much. Campbeltown cared as much for Southend; Oban for Barcaldine; Rothesay for North Bute; and Dunoon for Toward.
Why should they. It’s not their experience.
But that cannot be the basis for deciding, uninformed, on other people’s lives – or for ganging up on them.
Yet each of these places unknown to townsfolk is a rich and individual culture, a living organism that keeps alive much of the country. If these places die, then alternative means and values for living die too.
It’s not straightforward but it matters.
- We will publish an article on some of these issues later this evening.
The election is also not fully over yet. The Dunoon contest had to be postponed because of the recent death of Councillor Alister McAlistrer, who was due to stabnd in Dunoon.
That vote is being held on Thursday 10th May and Dick Walsh is one of the candidates. The overall picture will not be clear until that ward election is completed.
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- Indy, research funding and Scottish universities
Anyone is welcome to put their views on this site, Graeme. That’s what the Comments facility is there to enable.
I was an academic for a substantial period and have experience both of engaging in academic research and of supervising doctoral research; of the way research funding works; of the way the research process works; of what drives it and what enables it to be the best.
Of course Scottish universities would continue to do research but without membership of the common research area we have at the moment, it is hard to see how they could hope to produce the top flight results they have been producing in the current research environment.
Most research has a value but if a small country wants to get its research into orbit, it needs a bigger rocket than it can fuel by itself.
Anyone may say what they wish on this but I defer to no one on the soundness of the argument this piece presents.
And it has nothing whatsoever to do with nationality.
- Campbeltown Picture House planning for spectacular return
In many cases we would agree with you.
In this case, with the Campbeltown Community Business working closely with the funders to ensure that they meet the requirements of the applications’ processes when they submit them – and with the general level of awareness and interest there is in this project, we are confident that the project will succeed and the work will be done.
There is little attraction in going to an event that marks a temporary closure so, while we have no information on the event or the size of its audience, it is not surprising if there were few there.
When the Picture House reopens, it will be an object of curiosity and interest over a wide area.
If the team and their consultants get the ambience right and the programming right [these are their next series of challenges - it's pretty sadistic in the continuing demands], that initial curiosity is – and must be – convertible to a regular audience.
This initiative has so much to offer to the community life of Campbeltown, to its business community and to support for economic growth, it has a strong likelihood of success – and the voluntary members of the Community Business have their feet to the Board.
- On nationalism
If you’re referring to the author of the letter, you demonstrate the process he is talking about.
If you’re talking about the author of the article, myself – I am a rationalist, not a nationalist. The two are not compatible.
- On nationalism
It has to be doubtful that the egg-lobbers of Kirkcaldy see: ‘a Yes vote about trying to protect what is left of the values and institutions that many of us used to think of as being British’.
There is though a very challenging play by the Irish playwright,Tom KIlroy – Double Cross.
This identifies the double-jeopardy of empire as being that a state newly emerged from empire into independence and forming its own identity, has no template other than empire – and so ‘creates’ itself in the image of its former imperial principal.
What you are saying here carries all of the symptoms of that particular double cross.
How can you know that there never was a better way of doing any of the British things you claim, bizarrely, that a ‘Yes’ vote is designed to preserve? [And the notion that the proposed new Scotland is conceived of as a place of sanctuary for the repository of the sacred artefacts of the Union you would destroy is the laugh of the campaign.]
The NHS, for example, is now a sacred cow by default. It would be a positive advantage to be free to start again in defining, shaping and delivering a national health service free at the point of delivery.
Your stance would be more worthy of respect had you shown an independence of mind that is willing to think newly.
It is also noticeable that you choose the soft option of engaging with the patently honest letter – from the already paralysed victim of the action you support Scotland to take; and that you are sufficiently arrogant to assume that your own idealism is in some way ‘better’ than his?.
You fail to engage with the major issues of the Achilles heels of nationalism – its chauvinism, its utopianism and its incipient racism.
And by the way, the federation that the United Kingdom should move to become and which would without doubt be the most popular option of all – cross-party and across the Union – would not be a ‘unitary state’.
- On nationalism
‘we ourselves’ and ‘ourselves alone’ have the same connotation of comfort in separateness.
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