You get what you pay for, if you …

Comment posted What’s a fibreoptic cable doing lying on a beach anyway? by Lundavra.

You get what you pay for, if you buy a telephone line then that is what you get. If you need resilience then you install a system with an independent backup connection, perhaps a small mobile phone module built into the unit.

Many commercial systems specify two independent circuits that never come near each other even when they enter the user’s premises. But it costs a lot more.

Recent comments by Lundavra

  • Radio 4 legal conundrum of time change consequence
    I am sure that it can easily sorted out though some lawyers might get quite rich! I wonder if GMT / BST is recorded on the Birth Certificate that night?

    A night shift on that night is interesting. Do you get paid an hour less or more (as appropriate)? It happened to me at my first full place of work, normally they claimed the normal nine hours because they were on a fixed shift pattern but I was on ‘relief’ (i.e. covering for people who were off) so I was paid the extra hour.

  • State Guardians / Named Persons a situation out of control
    It seems the Soviet style State Guardians have more power than the parents. If the child had been interviewed by the police then at least there would be a recording of the interview because it would done under whatever the Scottish equivalent of PACE is.

    I think parents need to tell their children not to be interview or examined by anyone without speaking to their parents.

    I have a feeling that they are going to do something like to a child with parents wealthy enough to get some serious legal advice and able to take on the system.

  • State Guardians / Named Persons a situation out of control
    In an ideal world you would go to the police and school. I don’t know about the school but I would not have much faith in the now politicised police in Scotland, the school could well be the same.
  • State Guardians / Named Persons a situation out of control
    ‘At least an admission this site is not for Argyll but – ” this is an anti-SNP website”.’

    If you read it you will see that is a reference to the source of the report which is a site that is quite open about being against the SNP (unlike some of the SNP supporting sites that were being quoted last year as if they were real news sites).

  • A83 closed with coach off on shores of Loch Restil
    Wind deflectors are going to have be quite substantial structures even if louvered and there are so many places where they could be said to be justified.

    I wonder if they would cost as much as Armco barriers and of course the barriers can prevent a vehicle going off the road in any other accidents.

    Also going to spoil the view for the tourists on the buses.

    Traffic Scotland have their VMS displaying High Wind warnings all over Scotland when there is often only a slight breeze but places like this just have standard non-illuminated signs. But it should be obvious to drivers that it is windy.

powered by SEO Super Comments

12 Responses to You get what you pay for, if you …

  1. BT are not the sharpest knife in the block!

    When my local area had telephone cable taken from each pole and laid in the ditch, they simply left large sections on the surface, despite being informed of this nothing happened……that is until ditch renovation was routinely carried out and a flayer was used to cut back brambles etc…..I think you can see where I’m going! Result a chewed cable, no phones and two services namely council and BT blaming each other. So, your story does not surprise me in the slightest.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

    • The visual evidence of the television footage – with the camera resting on the image of the cut section and the rest of the cable – showed a long continuation of the cable lying on the surface of the beach and vanishing into the tide, with absolutely no trace of its having been dug up anywhere along that length. There was, for example, no visible disturbance to the seaweed, which is easy to spot. I paid particular attention to what was shown – LOOKING for something suggesting it had been dug up. There was nothing, and the reporter’s commentary made no reference to digging up or uncovering the cable in any way.

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  2. Ah. Don’t forget BT have been using special ‘self burying’ cable for many years. For ages there was a large loop of the main cable to the village lying on my beach. It disappeared several years ago.

    It must have buried itself as the phones still work.

    Perhaps BT need to concentrate on developing a ‘high speed’ self burying cable that wouldn’t be noticeable for quite so long.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  3. 2 things to point out are that, fiber optic cable is very expensive so has to be burried under the sea rather than round land due to cost and logistics (they are burried under the sea all over the world). Secondly, when this cable is installed it is burried under the sea bed but over time the tides and power of the sea will uncover sections. This cable is very tough and will withstand the power of nature but it will not, however, withstand the power of a chainsaw, heavy duty cable cutters or whatever other weapons these thieves decide to use.
    Phone companies spend many £millions every year to combat cable theft and this is now a real problem. More help is needed from local communities and the police to help find these people who are undoubtedly putting real lives at risk

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

    • Wrong! see 2 above, and do you realise how deep the oceans are? Cables are not buried under the sea or loch bed, but the point where they are most vulnerable is on the surface before entering the water (fresh or salt). There perhaps they should be fed through buried (metal) duct or duct embedded in concrete.

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  4. I am concerned that given the importance of this cable, and the fact that it linked in the personal alarm call systems for over 200 vunerable elderly folks, that there was no back up system. Even a well buried cable can be the target of thieves..in this case dumb ones, so if vital services are at risk a surely it would make sense to have a more robust back up system…there are a lot of remote homes in this area.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

    • You get what you pay for, if you buy a telephone line then that is what you get. If you need resilience then you install a system with an independent backup connection, perhaps a small mobile phone module built into the unit.

      Many commercial systems specify two independent circuits that never come near each other even when they enter the user’s premises. But it costs a lot more.

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  5. In fairness to BT, there are virtually NO BEACHES on Loch Carron. It appears this cable was on the Stromeferry side of the loch. It could be accessed by parking in a passing place, crossing a fence, crossing the rail line, crossing another fence, then making your way down the rocks to the rocky shoreline.
    That side of the loch is effectively inaccessible and the picture being painted of a cable lying around on a sandy beach is wrong.

    Interestingly, the damage did not effect landline telephone services locally. It did stuff the internet and mobile phones. (except Orange)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

    • This is a useful picture in terms of accessibility – but the cable was still lying on the beach. That has to be mmethod is wildly disproportionate to the value of the infrastructure and the business and personal services it supports.

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>


All the latest comments (including yours) straight to your mailbox, everyday! Click here to subscribe.