Forget tactical voting for unity. Forget the coming of the one-party state. Your party matters more?

If you value unity, you know that the SNP has now been confirmed by two separate polls as running at 54% of voting intentions in Scotland.

You know what this means in terms of the almost total separatist sweep of Scottish seats  that will come in this election.

You know that the seats gained by the separatists from this situation could not better deliver the ‘material change’ in ‘public opinion’ which First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has specifically cited as reason to call for a second independence referendum in the SNP’s 2016 manifesto.

You know that if this commitment is in that manifesto in these circumstances it will carry. Scotland will leave the Union. It will be out on its own in all weathers. Those who have supported us as we have supported them will be left weakened – and they will have had no voice, as a substantial minority in Scotland will not.

You know that with two successive election wins of this order, Scotland will effectively be a one-party state in one year’s time, with all of the dismissal of democracy that this will certainly bring. The evidence is here already and we are  not going to rehearse it again. It’s there plainly to see; but if you can’t see it there’s no use pointing to it again.

You know that in this one-party state there will be no tolerance of the contrary view, that other voices will be drowned out or silenced.

You know that if you vote as you have always done – or for your own preferred pro-union party today – every single one of the pro-union parties in Scotland, your own included, is going down.

You know you have the free and independent option of joining others in using your vote to try and slow this avalanche, to play for time for 2016: by voting for whoever, in your own constituency, is most likely to come second to the SNP – and trying to help them to win.

But if, in the face of your acceptance of all of these facts, you simply cannot bring yourself to vote for another pro-union party because, for you, it has always politically been ‘the enemy’ – that is your free democratic choice.

Do it.

Stay in your comfort zone and watch it all come down around you.

It will.

And it will start crumbling in eight days time.

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  • You could do a serialised collection of your anti SNP, anti-democratic diatribes after the Election Newsie?
    Fear and Loathing in Loch Fyne’ perhaps?

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    Erik the Viking April 29, 2015 6:53 pm Reply
    • I am Astonished at this article.Yes,I am astonished.Did Jim Murphy write this for you.
      What utter balderdash!

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      Chris.p.Bacon April 29, 2015 7:12 pm Reply
      • It’s the other way round – Newsie writes stuff for the Egg Man!

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        Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:27 pm Reply
    • Yes Erik,I totally agree.There is far too much bitterness about,especially on this site.
      On a forward looking outlook,looks good for a fairer more socially acceptable set of laws driven by Nicola.I personally do not mind paying more tax.

      A lesson for real tories – if you earn well,pay the frigging tax,you selfish gits!

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      Chris.p.Bacon April 29, 2015 9:59 pm Reply
    • Or perhaps “One Wrote Out Of The Cuckoo’s Nest”.

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      Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:31 pm Reply
    • Mr Viking since when has being anti SNP equated to being anti democratic. The SNPs second aim after independence is to annihilate the Tories, under your own diatribe that must also be undemocratic.

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      Nodrog April 30, 2015 6:03 am Reply
  • The hyperbole is getting even worse than it was before the referendum.

    Of course, come 2016 there’s an easy way to avoid the total dominance of the SNP whilst not having to support any of the Scottish branches of the London parties and that’s to vote Green.

    What exactly does newsie thinks will happen to the prospects for the continuation of the UK if tactical voting by unionist obsessives lets 3-4 tories in and gives us another tory government?

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    Arethosemyfeet April 29, 2015 7:05 pm Reply
    • The only way we are going to get another Tory government is by voting SNP.

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      John M April 29, 2015 7:07 pm Reply
      • Yes,when we are Independent and the tories have their own Scottish Democratic Party.
        Until then,no chance.Think about it?

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        Chris.p.Bacon April 29, 2015 7:14 pm Reply
        • Interesting, so you think an Independent Scotland would be Tory led?

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          John M April 29, 2015 7:43 pm Reply
          • Yes,your deduction of my comments have indeed hit a raw nerve.
            I am a supporter of Scottish determination however I am right of centre.
            Confused ,you shouldn’t be ! Had Murdo Fraser got his way we would be there already however I am quite happy to support SNP policy as I am an old fashioned Tory at heart.I believe in free enterprise however I do not agree with the greed and scandalous behavior of the Eton types who give the country as a whole,such a bad name.
            The greed and corruption must cease and now is the time to do something about it!!

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            Chris.p.Bacon April 29, 2015 8:29 pm
          • How will the greed of Capitalism be any different in Scotland as to that of any other capitalist country?

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            John M April 29, 2015 8:33 pm
      • That’s a really tired old lie John M. Can’t you do better?

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        Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:28 pm Reply
        • You are going to give them a 53 seat head start, you do the maths.

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          John M April 29, 2015 10:30 pm Reply
          • Yes, but do the rest of the maths – Labour(!) plus SNP should be able to keep the tories out, as the SNP have said. Unless Labour(!) does a pact WITH the tories. Wouldn’t put it past them.

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            Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:34 pm
          • The Tories are going to win the most seats, yes? We all lost right there.
            Because Labour are losing 41 seats automatically in Scotland they won’t be the party with the most votes.
            As you know ‘Tradition’ dictates the party with the most seats will be offered the first opportunity to form a government.
            For any government, it is largely irrelevant who they have in the opposition, it’s about who they can have in their Government.
            When the SNP take all 59 seats in Scotland they aren’t taking 59 seats from the Tories, they are taking one! That’s all, just one.
            The Tories will be given the opportunity to put forward their Queens speech, Labour vote it down, as they always do, will there be enough opposition to vote it down? You don’t sound 100% certain yourself.
            And all because the SNP denied Labour the opportunity of having first bite of the cherry.

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            John M April 29, 2015 10:51 pm
          • No, they’re taking twelve – 1 blue 11 orange. Taking seats from the lib dems is just as important as taking them from the tories. Any voter in Scotland who wants to see Ed Miliband in number 10 should vote SNP.

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            Arethosemyfeet April 30, 2015 7:40 am
          • John M – tradition has nothing to do with it. The party which ends up governing will be the one that can get the support of a majority of MPS. Since the SNP have said they would support a Labour government but not a Tory one, the number of seats they take from Labour has no impact on Labour’s ability to form a government.

            It may have an impact on the style of government they are free to implement, but that’s kind of the point.

            The fact that Jim Murphy has based his entire campaign in Scotland on this one big untruth about the ‘biggest party gets to form the government’ is the chief reason it has been such a disaster – because it clearly shows how little he thinks of the intelligence of the voters.

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 10:21 am
          • Tim – let’s assume you are right. The tories win the most seats but are unable to gain enough support from other parties to push through their Queen’s speech.

            Labour are then given the opportunity to form a government and put forward their Queens’ speech with a commitment to renewing Trident, will the SNP support this?

            If they don’t what then?

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            John M April 30, 2015 10:35 am
          • John, as I understand it both Labour & SNP have ruled out a coalition, and therefore there is no requirement for any agreement in advance about individual issues such as Trident. I don’t think the SNP would vote against a Labour Queen’s Speech just because it contains a commitment to Trident – in fact I think they may have said as much. Supporting a Queen’s Speech does not mean you have to vote subsequently for the policies contained in it. That is what is meant by confidence & supply.

            In reality Trident would be passed anyway, without SNP support, because the Tories would vote for it.

            So, the SNP cannot by itself stop Trident, if a majority of UK MPs support it. However, they can surely influence other areas of policy, e.g. the budget, because the Tories will not support a Labour budget – so they will need SNP votes & therefore have to make reasonable concessions to get them.

            The only alternative is Labour & Tories working together to thwart all the SNP’s attempts to influence policy, which would be immensely damaging for the Union they both profess to value so highly.

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 11:06 am
          • Tim, I would probably agree with a lot of what you say however, will the party faithful remain faithful if Nicola Sturgeon rubs out the ‘red line’ she put in place over Trident?

            Other SNP commentators have said she would no longer be able to lead the party if the SNP voted in favour of Trident.

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            John M April 30, 2015 11:17 am
          • John – fair point – Trident would undoubtedly be a red-line issue for the SNP in any coalition negotiations, which is just one reason (of many) why a coalition between Labour and SNP is unlikely.

            I can’t answer for the SNP membership (of which, to be clear, I am not one) but I think they would view pragmatically a vote to support Labour into government, even if Labour commits to Trident. The SNP MPs would obviously vote against Trident renewal when the legislation itself comes before the house, although that would not be enough to stop it, as noted above.

            The SNP members will be as well aware as anyone that, even if they do sweep the board with 59 MPs, there is a limit to the influence you can wield if English MPs of both parties support a particular policy.

            You could argue that it is to the SNP’s strategic advantage if Trident renewal is seen to be ‘forced’ on Scotland against the will of almost all its MPs…

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 11:49 am
          • Tim, your last paragraph highlights the dilemma facing Nicola Sturgeon. She will need to instruct all SNP MPs to vote in favour of a queens speech which contains a commitment to renewing Trident, will they follow this instruction after all the promises they have made to the Scottish electorate.

            With the number of ‘rebel’ Labour MPs who would vote against any proposal to renew Trident, Labour will probably need all 59 SNP MPs to vote in favour of the commitment to renew.

            If they vote in favour they won’t be able to argue Trident renewal was forced on Scotland.

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            John M April 30, 2015 12:12 pm
          • John, you’re surely not suggesting that ‘rebel’ Labour MPs would actually vote down their own party’s Queen’s Speech just because they didn’t agree with all its contents?

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 12:27 pm
          • That wasn’t a Queen’s Speech though. I’m sure the SNP would vote against a Trident-renewal motion as well, when the time comes. All I’m saying is they wouldn’t bring a Labour government down over it – there wouldn’t be any point.

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 12:43 pm
          • The first ‘motion’ to vote for or against Trident will be the Queen’s speech.

            All the labour MPs listed in the article are 100% committed to removing Trident. For them it isn’t a party political issue it’s a moral one.
            Latest polls are suggesting the Tories will have a slight majority over Labour of 10 to 20 seats, may increase slightly between now and next Thursday. When this is combined with those who would vote against Trident on moral grounds it starts to get a bit close.

            When you then add in all the other party votes who will vote against Labour, the 59 SNP votes may still not be enough to pass the Queen’s speech.

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            John M April 30, 2015 12:58 pm
          • OK John, so I’ve finally, and perhaps belatedly, realised that you are winding me up 🙂

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 1:30 pm
          • Aye Tim, that’s right I’m winding you up.

            One final question though, when neither Labour or the Tories are able to pass a Queen’s speech what next?

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            John M April 30, 2015 1:35 pm
          • Tim, to demonstrate to you that I am not winding you up.

            Polls are predicting Labour will get approximately 270 seats. To gain a majority of votes they need to gain 325 (technically 326 but with the speaker takes it to 325)

            If the 19 labour MPs vote against Trident this takes 270 down to 251. Even with 59 SNP votes it only takes it up to 310. Still 15 votes short.

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            John M April 30, 2015 1:57 pm
          • John, the reason why I said you were winding me up is that you surely aren’t suggesting that Labour would be unable to get a Queen’s Speech through parliament solely because of the actions of its own rebel MPs?

            Can you imagine the headlines: “Salmond pleads with Labour rebels to let Ed Miliband into No. 10”

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 2:15 pm
          • Tim, with the way the polls are shaping up nothing would surprise me.

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            John M April 30, 2015 2:37 pm
        • About a month ago Salmond made clear that the SNP with Labour would scupper the Tories even if they got the most seats (which they probably will) thus meaning he doesn’t think the party with the most seats has the right to form a government. He has been quite public about Labour spinning the idea that the party with most seats has a right to form the government this as a lie. Of course he is correct from a constitutional perspective. They don’t have a right to, in fact they don’t actually have ‘first dibs’ either.

          However I think most people recognise that the party with most seats, whether that is enshrined in constitution or not, should get the first opportunity to form a coalition government. Alex Salmond himself even said that back in 2007 when he talked about the party with the most votes forming the kernel of an administration and it being undemocratic for the leading party not to be allowed to try and form it. He said there would be anger amongst the voters if a combination of other parties trying to prevent that happening.

          I think what he said in 2007 ( in relation to the Scottish elections) was correct then and remains correct now. I don’t want Tory party leading the next government but if they win the most seats as I suspect they will then it is correct that they get the chance to negotiate with whomever they want about forming a coalition. If they manage to get an agreement that gives them they key then we will have to live with that.
          That said I am still very confident that they won’t get enough seats to be a majority government nor will they be able to find enough coalition partners to form a majority government.

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          Integrity? April 30, 2015 1:45 pm Reply
          • Hi Integrity – I believe the convention in a hung parliament is that the sitting government gets the first opportunity to try & negotiate a deal and get it through a Queen’s Speech vote. So the Tories will get first go at creating a coalition anyway, even if they don’t have the most seats, and if they succeed, that will be that.

            All the SNP have said is that they would not be part of a Tory-led government, formally or informally, but would be willing to support a Labour Queen’s Speech and then a Labour government on a vote-by-vote basis. That position, which has been unequivocally stated throughout, seems fair enough to me – I don’t think they have said they would try to block the Tories from trying to form a government first, and anyway it’s not clear how they would do so.

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 2:11 pm
          • What you say is broadly correct.
            There is though the problem that if the SNP were to support the Labour Government on a vote by vote basis – which they could do with or without Labour collaboration, it would be difficult for that to seem a sufficiently stable arrangement to support government – IF any more stable rainbow coalition were available.
            A key issue is now obviously the scale of those who at least say they have not yet made up their minds how they will vote.
            Assuming that they at least make up their minds to vote, this body of people will swing the result – whatever it turns out to be.

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            newsroom April 30, 2015 2:19 pm
          • You are right Tim, it is convention but it is informal convention. There is nothing to stop, for example the second and third place party, negotiating with each other before say, the 1st and 3rd place party have.

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            Integrity? April 30, 2015 2:26 pm
          • Newsroom

            Personally I don’t think it is stable and I think it would be political suicide by Labour to enter into such an arrangement.

            The last thing the country needs right now is an unstable government but one way or another I suspect we are going to get one. If I was in the Labour Party, for its own long term sake, I would be looking to take a back seat for a while longer.

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            Integrity? April 30, 2015 2:30 pm
          • It would be a relief if we could simply hit the pause button on the whole shebang just now.
            We’re trapped in choking insubstantiality and whether we have the tools, the skills or the will to change that is a moot point.

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            newsroom April 30, 2015 4:56 pm
          • Tim – SNP manifesto launch, Nicola Sturgeon
            “We will not do any deals that would put the Tories into power.
            Indeed if there is an anti-Tory majority after the election we will vote to stop a Tory government even getting off the ground.”

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            John M April 30, 2015 3:05 pm
          • Integrity – I’m sure you are right that the convention is informal, and obviously the parties can talk to each other as they wish – as the Lib Dems did with Labour last time. However, I assume that in practice, David Cameron would try every option to form a government and would not resign until these had been exhausted (as Gordon Brown did last time, despite coming a distant second). Only then would the SNP’s offer to Labour come into play.

            John M – the SNP cannot ‘vote down’ a Tory government which has managed to assemble majority support – the key phrase in your quote being “if there is an anti-Tory majority”

            Newsroom, I think you are right that stability could be a problem, especially as the Tory press in the south will do everything possible to de-stabilise a SNP-supported minority Labour government. If they can portray it as illegitimate that Labour gets to govern while the Tories got a majority in England, they will do so, loudly and insistently, and regardless of the damage to the Union.

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 3:51 pm
          • The reality is that the wholly constitutionally disadvantaged position of England in the union ought never to have been allowed to get as far as this.
            What we have is a Union which those of us who support do so not on the grounds of its present nature but on conceptual grounds – believing [or having come to understand] that unity is politically mature and stronger for all concerned.
            This Union has been in obvious need of constitutional reform since the process of devolution began – because of its unfinished structural business, which includes the careless but effective exclusion of Enaland from the process.
            It has been a matter of something close of horror and certainly of contempt, that in spite of the way the Scottish Independence Referendum highlighted the imperative for reform, not one single political party of any status or size, has made constitutional reform of the union an issue in this election – and it has been THE unspoken issue.
            To try and bury that at this particular time – purely for party political interest – is likely to prove a suicide note for the Union written by the lightweights in whose collective charge it currently resides.
            Equally for purely party political interest, some have chosen to emphasise only one part of this democratic deficit – as David Cameron with his sudden commitment, after all this time, to English Votes for Englsh Laws; and as Nicola Sturgeon’s declaration that the SNP would work to see the House of Lords abolished – explcitly regardless of whether there was anything to put in its place.
            It is not hard to despair of politics and politicians.
            IF it proves possible to retain the Union – and that is not a supportable bet at the moment – there will have to be serious constitutional change – not led by politicians.

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            newsroom April 30, 2015 4:24 pm
          • Tim, completely agree no one could vote out the Tories if they get a majority, probably just a lot of hyperbole from Sturgeon.

            Maybe I should finish with where we started. If a convention is ‘a set of agreed, stipulated, or generally accepted standards, norms, social norms, or criteria, often taking the form of a custom.’ Would an informal convention not be the same as a ‘tradition’. 🙂

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            John M April 30, 2015 4:31 pm
          • Newsroom – re: the “wholly constitutionally disadvantaged position of England”, Derek Bateman has a good piece on that subject;-

            http://derekbateman.co.uk/2015/04/28/the-mother-of-parliaments/

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            Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 5:30 pm
          • This states the statistically obvious but underlines the need for constitutional reform.
            As by far the holder of the greatest population, England will always have by far the greatest number of MPs – and that is not unfair because parliamentary democracy is about representation.
            But when you add the dimension of contributing nationhoods, simple representation is not enough.
            A tailored version of 21st century federalism is the only way this Union is going to stay together – if it gets the chance to try [improbable – the political momentum is going in the other direction]; and if there was the collective will [highly improbable – too much established vested interest of too many kinds].
            But devising that unique federalism – free of party political machinations – maintaining representation; dealing with the balancing of partner nations of wildly different sizes but equally valuable perspectives and wisdom; building in objective fairness; creating enabling structures …. would be challenging, fascinating and exciting.
            This would have been the great historic achievement in the regeneration of the United Kingdom – fundamentally a statement of belief about togetherness.
            It won’t happen.

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            newsroom April 30, 2015 6:25 pm
          • Here’s a taste of the Bateman article, because I know most of you won’t click through:

            The constant wheedling sound of English-orientated hacks about Scots (not just the SNP, mind) having influence over UK government policy overlooks the glaring point that neither the SNP, nor the Scots – nor even Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish combined – can ever outvote English MPs in any circumstance on any issue.

            England has, and always has had, an automatic veto over every other nation in this ‘family of nations’ – ‘the greatest union in the history of the world’. At any time in any parliament, a matter of overriding ‘national’ interest to the English people can be voted through the Commons with such ease that counts and tellers and trooping through lobbies are rendered redundant. A simple show of hands will suffice and even vertically challenged John Bercow will see a forest of 533 arms aloft for England and, if the other nations combine, 117 against. That’s a majority of 416 for England (and St George) because England has 82 per cent of all the seats in the House, fairly accurately representing the distribution of population.

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            Longshanks April 30, 2015 5:38 pm
  • Good grief,is there no let up in the nonsense mini-hack can produce in a day.Must admit though,it gave me a laugh,especially the “if you value unity” bit.Had me in stitches,that one.

    The establishment and their lackies could not give a cats c@ck about Scotland. Are you blind!!

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    Machmaolain April 29, 2015 7:18 pm Reply
    • Machmaolain, the SNP Government in Scotland is the ESTABLISHMENT!

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      Sceptic1 April 29, 2015 7:29 pm Reply
      • Oh,what did you call the Labour Party in Scotland that did sweet fanny Adams for us in the last 60 years!!
        They don’t like it up em now,Eh!!

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        Machmaolain April 29, 2015 8:22 pm Reply
        • Did nothing? You are a liar. I’ve given up politeness to trolls.

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          Jamie Black April 30, 2015 12:53 pm Reply
          • Nice to see that you acknowledge your inner nastiness, jamie. No point really in trying to be nice when you’re not. Still, a pity from your point of view that presumably you won’t now be able to be polite when talking to yourself.

            PS – Polls getting to you much?

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            Kassandra April 30, 2015 8:34 pm
    • “Mini-hack” – like it – can I use it too?

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      Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:35 pm Reply
      • Kassandra, are you the same Kassandra that has told us numerous times you’re not coming back to this site? You sound like the same person!

        Welcome back!

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        Jamie Black April 30, 2015 12:59 pm Reply
        • I never told you any such thing. Like all right wing trolls, you like to invent your own “truth” If you can produce a quote from me from the archives saying that I would not ever be coming back to this site, I will buy you a drink.

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          Kassandra April 30, 2015 7:45 pm Reply
  • Oh ,God!! I’ve read the whole article again and I now have bad cramps in my stomach by laughing hysterically!
    Please stop,I can’t take anymore.
    I’ll need to go now and have a big,stinkin,fat,smelly,reefer!!

    Oh the panic in thy breastie!! LOL,LOL

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    Machmaolain April 29, 2015 7:24 pm Reply
    • Although the SNP Natcons may be happy with the current poll, they must be far from happy that today’s poll has confirmed that only 32% of the population want another referendum on independence. Sturgeon will never go for another referendum until the polls are showing a minimum of 55% of the population supporting a second referendum. She is determined that the SNP will not end up with egg on their face a second time after a failed referendum. GOOD NEWS.

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      Sceptic1 April 29, 2015 7:38 pm Reply
      • So no referendum.

        So no break-up of the union.

        So Newsie is ranting nonsense.

        Glad that’s been cleared up.

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        Longshanks April 29, 2015 8:14 pm Reply
      • You are a numpty! Scotland will be Shot of Wastemonster soon,and do you know who the driver will be?
        Wastemonster,when they throw all the toys out of the pram!!

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        Machmaolain April 29, 2015 8:23 pm Reply
  • I am over here from the States.No wonder the London government is in such a head spin !
    Truely awesome stuff going down in Scotland.
    Go ScotlandGo!

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    Sally Forth April 29, 2015 8:42 pm Reply
  • Well, well, things are certainly hotting up in old FA. I hear that newsie has a hot tip that radio-active reptile monster-men from the planet Zorg are poised for an invasion after their allies the SNP sweep the board in May. Can this really be true? I fear it is so, as newsie has the scoop.

    Laugh? Never so hard in my life (except maybe for the Loch Fyne “Handbrake-turn cruise-ship” episode)

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    Kassandra April 29, 2015 8:48 pm Reply
  • The bunny boiler will be worn out in Newsie’s house.

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    Willie. April 29, 2015 9:19 pm Reply
  • And I wonder how many keyboards Newsie has gone through?

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    Willie. April 29, 2015 9:21 pm Reply
  • Is there anyone who can sit with Newsie till the doctor arrives?

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    Loki April 29, 2015 10:16 pm Reply
    • It’s gone way beyond the doctor level – this needs the full sirens/white coats/straitjacket treatment.

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      Kassandra April 29, 2015 10:23 pm Reply
  • Why would the unionist parties have the Devine right to rule over the historical and justifiable land of Scotland.
    I realise now that the population wants change.
    Why don’t the intelligent within the establishment(by the way,Yes Minister is accurate!) realise that they have to offer Federal governance now! Would it be that the Scottish landmass is resilient to market forces?
    I think I am privileged to live in a part of the world that maybe be nirvana .
    If you are living in Scotland,don’t knock it ,we are extremely fortunate and things are about to get much better for us all.

    Vote SNP!

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    Chris.p.Bacon April 29, 2015 11:41 pm Reply
    • Vote Snp, – get Tories!

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      Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 12:14 am Reply
      • No, Gus. Vote SNP – get an SNP+Labour majority. Vote Labour(!) only and you get Red Tories or Tory Lite.

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        Kassandra April 30, 2015 10:06 am Reply
      • Facing a wipeout and, like most of Scottish Labour, Gus has learned nothing. That attitude, and the choice of leader in Scotland, is what has sunk your party. I would, however, hold out the hope that lessons will be learned and in the future we will see a party rejuvenated and taking its rightful place in Scotland. This may take some time though.

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        Andy April 30, 2015 12:23 pm Reply
  • I thought the referendum result was ‘No’

    So what’s this endless talk of a ‘one party state’ when Scotland just voted not to become a state?

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    Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 10:30 am Reply
  • As John Curtice has pointed out, tactical voting is unlikely to make much impact when the gulf between the parties is so huge. The polls are at the stage where you would almost have to persuade EVERY non-SNP voter to vote tactically for it to have any effect.

    For that to work, you would have to see this General Election as a re-run of the referendum. I reckon, in contrast to Newsie’s increasingly hysterical rhetoric, that it’s more likely that most voters (on both sides) have moved on from the referendum, recognise that independence is off the table at least for a few years, and feel that being represented at Westminster by a group of MPs who are not whipped by either of the London parties is likely to be the best way to ensure their interests are served, and in particular that the extra powers promised to the Holyrood parliament are delivered.

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    Tim McIntyre April 30, 2015 12:04 pm Reply
    • With the greatest respect to John Curtice and all other pollsters there is no way what they are predicting will be the reality on 8th May.

      If it was so easy to predict there would be a queue at every bookies in the country.

      There was a rumour in our area at the time of the referendum that a Yes activist was in the local bookies every day lumping cash on a Yes win.

      The bookies just love a loser!

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      Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 12:36 pm Reply
      • Gus Mackay, You are still in denial.

        Labour used to just collect the votes, now they have to earn the votes.

        It looks like the electorate are deciding that Labour have not done enough to earn these votes and that the SNP offer a better alternative

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        keitho April 30, 2015 8:20 pm Reply
  • There was a rumour…….aye… Labour was once socialist?

    John Curtice that well known snp supporter says labour is .”…..

    In fairness it must be hard after years of labour gloating in Scotland to realise they have been rumbled.

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    No Cheese Here April 30, 2015 1:48 pm Reply
    • Like the name you post under you make no sense!

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      Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 6:07 pm Reply
      • Vote strategically ,vote for Scotland,Vote SNP !!

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        Machmaolain April 30, 2015 7:12 pm Reply
    • Labour(!) was never really “socialist – It was founded by the Fabians, who’s idea of revolution was to say “please can we have little bit of all the wealth we have created for you capitalists, if you really don’t mind, but if you do we’ll just push off – or even better, prop you up when required”.

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      Kassandra April 30, 2015 8:22 pm Reply
  • Gus, the reality is that if you vote Labour in A&B all you’re doing is increasing Alan Reid’s chances of getting back in.

    Labour will not win in A&B neither will the Tories. The only realistic alternative to the LIB Dems in A&B is the SNP.

    I’m taking Newsie’s advice. I’m voting tactically. I’m voting SNP.

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    Simon April 30, 2015 1:57 pm Reply
    • So you think the nats, who have been 3rd in the past 3 General Elections are going to win in A&B?

      As a Labour supporter I will be supporting Labour and would encourage everyone else to do the same. Every vote for the nats makes it more likely Cameron will be back in No10, but then is that what the Tartan Tories want?

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      Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 6:23 pm Reply
      • if you are voting labour,you really are showing your mentality!
        You are so 1940’s Dear!!

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        Machmaolain April 30, 2015 7:11 pm Reply
        • The nationalists were in their prime in Europe in the early 40’s were they not?

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          Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 7:27 pm Reply
          • What an objectionable little comment from an objectionable little man

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            Grassy Knoll May 3, 2015 2:59 pm
      • That’s a poor repetition of a Liebour lie. If Labour(!) can’t win on their own in England, they shouldn’t be propped up by their coat-tails in Scotland.

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        Kassandra April 30, 2015 7:35 pm Reply
        • Reminder of referendum result……..Win for No.

          Majority of people in Scotland voted to stay in United Kingdom.

          So stop posting crap, live with it….you live in the United Kingdom!

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          Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 7:49 pm Reply
          • As a response to mine, your post makes no sense. Can you elucidate?

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            Kassandra April 30, 2015 8:25 pm
      • “So you think the nats, who have been 3rd in the past 3 General Elections are going to win in A&B?”

        Not just contributors on here, the bookies have an SNP win in A&B at 1/16 ON! Unbettable, racing horse certainties. Latest poll I saw for A&B was –

        SNP Brendan O’Hara – 40%
        Tories Alasdair Redman – 20%
        Then the also rans, Labour’s Galbraith, Reid & Santos.

        This might explain the ridiculously short price for an SNP victory in A&B.

        An elderly ex-nurse who I spoke to during the referendum advised she had never voted before but was going to vote NO in the referendum to retain the union. She has since advised she will continue not to bother voting in this GE or any future election as firstly, the SNP aren’t offering the choice to break up the union and secondly if and when they do she will then exercise her right to reject independence. “There is no threat of Scottish independence until the choice is offered to us”.
        If this Daily Mail reading determined British Nationalist can see through the faux threat the unionist parties claim then this may be a fairly accurate representation of other NO voters mindset throughout Scotland other than the even more gullible amongst them. It might give weight to the reasons we have such a weak collaborative weasel like unionist vote (not just in A&B, throughout Scotland) and explaining the reasons the bookies have offered such generous odds on an Alan Reid, Alasdair Redman or Mary Galbraith victory.

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        JnrTick May 3, 2015 2:04 pm Reply
        • deleted, repetition

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          John M May 3, 2015 8:59 pm Reply
      • Correction to my own post, I gave the nats credit for being 3rd in the past three General Elections, should have been 4th place in the past three.
        Surprised no one noticed!!

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        Gus MacKay May 6, 2015 10:37 pm Reply
  • If I may throw some fact into this mix

    Greater London alone has 73 MP’s
    Scotland has 59 MP’S

    If all Scotland’s seats voted Labour the English Media would probably have no complaint
    If all Scotland’s seats voted Tory the English Media would probably have no complaint.
    If all Scotland’s seats voted Libdem the English Media would probably have no complaint
    So if all Scotland’s seats voted SNP the English Media would have no right to complain.

    Lets do it and test them.

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    keitho April 30, 2015 2:39 pm Reply
    • You are not even worthy of answering.

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      Gus MacKay April 30, 2015 6:29 pm Reply
      • Toys went out the pram there Gus

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        john in kintyre April 30, 2015 8:28 pm Reply
    • Absolutely KeithO ,I do like your reason.So refreshing!

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      Chris.p.Bacon April 30, 2015 7:07 pm Reply
  • You just did!

    Whether you like it or not the problem for lib dems , Tories, labour is that cannot afford to transfer their vote even if they wanted too. One person I know said they would never vote Tory and then said they wouldn’t vote labour either. Nope the ain’t voting lib dem either. As a Green supporter they will vote snp as they have no candidate standing. I have no doubt if there was one they would vote Green so I suppose they aren’t technically tactical voters.

    Good news for SNP though.

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    No Cheese Here April 30, 2015 6:57 pm Reply
  • Where is wee dicky this weather.I actually miss his stupidity but in all honesty,I can see why he has gone now!!
    It’s all done,bar the shouting!!!

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    Machmaolain April 30, 2015 7:09 pm Reply
  • Well, Newsie, thank you for this … I suppose,.
    All the SHOUTING that’s come on here in response and also, to be honest, all the SHOUTING that’s coming from the main party leaders has just become so tedious … and so tiresome … and so boring, boring, boring.
    Nothing but school playground points scoring. “My gang’s better than your gang so there. Yah boo sucks!!!”
    Our forebears fought for universal suffrage for every man and, eventually, for every woman.
    For that reason alone, each of us MUST cast our vote because it was so hard fought for.
    We have to make our choices a week from now.
    And it’s certainly something of a roulette wheel.
    As “juttle” said a while ago:
    “Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen”.
    It’s all to play for.
    Make your choice.

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    ClootieDumpling May 1, 2015 12:06 am Reply
  • It would appear that Labour (possibly ex-labour) folk are running Losers Corner for the Tories in Helensburgh (at least if you can believe the rumours).

    The Tories have a voters wheel on their windae in Helensburgh advising everyone go vote for them but this site suggests Alan Reid should continue to represent his parties ruinous policies at Westminster. I am led to understand there are a number of decoy wheels available as the process descends into farce. I hope, for everyone’s sake the idea dies and we return to respect for the position of each other’s politics even if and when we disagree and political parties return to presenting their policies to people.

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    Richard 2 May 1, 2015 7:04 am Reply
  • Seems to be plenty of evidence that voting SNP would be the unifying act for SCOTLAND-not that newsie gives a stuff about that.

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    JPJ2 May 2, 2015 5:28 pm Reply
  • You all vote SNP and be done with it ( my postal vote is in and it was not based on a 45% protest vote)
    There will be no genuine winners in this next election… and the loosers will again be electorate.
    The deal is already done:
    Con 34% +0
    Lab 33% +0
    UKIP 14% +0
    Lib Dem 8% +0
    Green 5% +0
    Other 6% +0
    Lib/Tories pact is on the cards…or Lib/Lab or Tories/ UKIP (Ouch)

    And Scotland ends up with a one party nationalist government that has all the power at home, is ignored in Westminster… and left on the side in europe.. stagnation by misrepresentation for us… and yet anothe era of whining for another referendum…there has never been anything progressive about a one party state… what a bloody mess.

    Time for PR methinks.

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    Karl Hughes May 3, 2015 3:20 pm Reply
    • Time for PR? Thought we had a referendum on that back in 2011?

      Surely you don’t want another referendum so soon?

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      Erik the Viking May 6, 2015 10:48 pm Reply

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