UK Supreme Court to hand down judgment on Named Person provision next Thursday

On Thursday 28th July 2016 at 9.45 the UK Supreme Court will issue its judgment on whether the Scottish Government’s controversial and, in practice  unworkable and unsustainable Named Person universal and compulsory provision of a state guardian for every young person from birth to legal maturity contravenes with human rights and/or data protection laws.

The judgment in the case will be streamed live on the Supreme Court website. It is listed here on the site as ‘(1) The Christian Institute and others (Appellants) v The Lord Advocate (Respondent) (Scotland)’ .

The fight to oppose the Scottish Government’s Named Person legislation continued to the UK Supreme Court after judges in Scotland’s highest court ruled last year that the legislation did not conflict with human rights or data protection laws.

A two-day hearing involving five judges took place in the Supreme Court on the 8th and 9th March,  at the end of which judgment was reserved to a later date – which will  ow be the 28th July, as above.

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  • English court majority of judges decides on Scots Law. Maybe with brexit this will stop?

    No I didn’t think so. Saw the English Solicitor general telling MP’s yesterday that the sovereignty of the people in Scotland will be ignored and he decides. Would be good if the Scots Solicitor General told him to ……

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    No Cheese Here July 22, 2016 9:51 am Reply
    • NCH, we wouldn’t be in this mess if the SNP listened to the concerns of ordinary people.
      How much more of an insult to parents can this Scottish government find, people are fed up with dictatorial government.

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      Richard July 22, 2016 11:41 am Reply
      • You band the word MESS about rather flippantly, Richard.
        A MESS is the financial results out today showing the uk worst performance since 2008.
        Now stop blaming the SG and train your sights to where the real mess is.
        Westminster.
        Things are going to get a lot worse as companies,Students,scientists and building workers flee the Rasist UK.

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        A.Salmon July 22, 2016 1:24 pm Reply
        • “Things are going to get a lot worse as companies,Students,scientists and building workers flee the Rasist UK.”

          You mean like Wells Fargo who have just announced that they have chosen London for their new £300 million European headquarters. They looked at Paris and Frankfurt and decided on London.

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          Lundavra July 22, 2016 1:37 pm Reply
    • NHC is a wee bit peeved because nobody wants to be she/he/its “Named Person”.

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      Karl Hughes July 22, 2016 2:52 pm Reply
  • NCH a prime example of SNP dogma.

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    Steve Barlow July 22, 2016 1:33 pm Reply
  • The brexit ears and other right wing nut jobs are like the US T-party on heat. Snp was elected with the proposals in the manifesto, UKIP and others no where.

    Tories lib dems have covered up the like of Saville , Cyril smith etc . Are you safe with them? No chance

    Brexit ears suck it up you are in the minority . NCH lol

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    No Cheese Here July 22, 2016 6:28 pm Reply
  • So if these foreign British judges overrule the democraticaly elected Scottish Government where do we turn? Is there recourse to the ECHR while we await article 50 being signed?

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    Murdoch MacKenzie July 23, 2016 2:58 am Reply
    • MM, Nicola Sturgeons former law professor has said nationalist MSP’s ‘slavishly follow what they are instructed to do’, leading to the lowest quality legislation in Europe.
      Thank god we have a UK Supreme Court.

      (copied from Professor Bonnington)

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      Richard July 23, 2016 12:20 pm Reply
      • Them Judges you refer to in Londonium don’t like to put Pervy Lords in the clink Richard,or indeed War Criminal ex Prime Ministers!!

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        A.Salmon July 23, 2016 5:13 pm Reply
    • Venture south of the Wall, MM, and you might be surprised to find how many Scots are swimming about in the ethnic soup. That includes quite a lot of politicians and – dare I say it – judges.

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      Robert Wakeham July 23, 2016 12:40 pm Reply
    • You hypocrite MM… The people of Scotland had a choice and the majority of Scots voted “yes” to staying in the Union, yet you push for another referendum when the outcome does not suit your historical based angst against the rest of the UK, whom you refer to as “foreign”… the rest of your ilk bemoan the UK’s electorates democratic decision to leave European Union… you are in the Union MM, your own ancestors helped build this Union, so get over it because its not going to change in your life time matey….

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      Karl Hughes July 23, 2016 12:53 pm Reply
      • My ancestors did not help build any union, they were destroyed by the union. Scots voted Yes to become an Independent country. I supported the UK electorate and voted to leave the European Union whereas you will not support the native people of your country of domicile to leave the UK.
        It’s you that needs to get over it, whatever it is.

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        Murdoch MacKenzie July 23, 2016 1:26 pm Reply
    • What has the ECHR got to do with the EU…or vice versa?

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      jake July 23, 2016 10:36 pm Reply
  • Ha the hypocrisy is with the rukists. Vote to remain with Uk and you will not get booted out of the EU the No’s declared. Fact.
    Now many No’s are seeing through the lies, delays in frigate building, RUK currency down.
    Scotland can stand on its own 2 feet thanks and within the EU. The Ruk’s mainly Tory, ukippy types with a little englander mentality don’t want to engage with real world. Many No’s are moving to see the sense in not been told by May, or Johnston how to run OUR country. So toddle pip off you guys said you would leave anyway.

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    No Cheese Here July 23, 2016 2:07 pm Reply
  • Leaving the hypocrites aside…Back to the matter at hand….

    https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/child-protection-system/scotland/statistics/

    Considering the FACTS in this trustworthy and reliable report from the NSPCC… why do 100% of Scottish kids require a NP with all the wasted public sector funds that will be spent funding such people in post when less than 5% of Scottish kids are actually “at risk” according to the NSPCC report…which I trust a lot more than a single policy dictorial centralised bunch of ( blankety’ blank’)ers.

    I n terms of a complete waste of public sector cash and effectiveness…NP is as sensible as resurfacing EVERY street in Scotland rather than only those with potholes.

    Cash that could be spent improving Social Services in Scotland such that it can actually carry out its job of protecting children “at risk”…doah’

    The SNP’s NP = making finding the “needles” (“at risk” kids) much more difficult by deliberately increasing the “haystack” (population of kids to be regularly checked on by NP/Social Services) by a multiple of at least TWENTY (100% compared to <5%)….

    You really couldn't make this stuff up when considering independently verifiable FACTS as set out in the NSPCC report!….. the SNP and its minions are simply hellbent on re-inventing the wheel by swapping it for a square..and stamping a big thistle emblem on it saying " made in Scotland"… we all know what a usless pain in the arse a thistle can be…right ?

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    Karl Hughes July 23, 2016 3:34 pm Reply
    • Thanks for the link, Karl.
      My reading of it is that they are not “FACTS” as you call them but estimates. Now while these estimates are certainly informed and based on something more than guesswork, the basis on which they are formed is not on common criteria across the UK. As MM (below) points out the NSPCC and the former RSSPCC are/ were quite different. By way of illustration, I ‘d draw your attention to some “FACTS” ( as you call them) which your link highlights…they say that 57,000 kids are at risk across the UK and that 2,700 are at risk in Scotland. Unless you are comfortable with concluding that Scots are half as likely to abuse children than others in the UK, I’d suggest that you use caution when relying on NSPCC figures in relation to Scotland.

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      jake July 23, 2016 11:23 pm Reply
  • Your NSPCC report starts of by saying they don’t know the figures in Scotland.
    That’s because they should not be involved in Scottish issues. There is Children 1st, or the RSSPCC as they used to be called, who are the Scottish charity. The NSPCC should stick with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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    Murdoch MacKenzie July 23, 2016 4:50 pm Reply
    • MM, from your comments I can only assue that a lot more children in Scotland are at risk than in the rUK.
      This suggests that the SNP haven’t only taken their eye off the ball but have lost the pitch, they need to start listening or they will find themselves going the same way as many others, people are fed up with poor government.

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      Richard July 23, 2016 5:13 pm Reply
      • Yes Richard,you are correct. Let’s get rid of the disgusting Torys for ever.
        Vote YES next time round. You know it makes sense!!

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        A.Salmon July 23, 2016 5:16 pm Reply
      • Richard,
        That strikes me as a counter intuitive assumption. As I posted above the figures given on the NSPCC site, linked to by Karl, suggest the opposite and that Scottish abuse figures are about half that of the rUK. Frankly, I don’t trust these figures, certainly not for making cross borders comparisons on a like with like basis, nor are they something I’d rely upon to form an opinion about whether or not the SNP have taken their eye off the ball in this regard.

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        jake July 24, 2016 12:00 am Reply
  • Scottish Independence March leaves Botanic Gardens,Glasgow @ 1030hrs 30/07/16,route to Freedom Sq,Glasgow.
    Thousands coming,all welcome.
    Bring EU Flags,Saltires,Yes Gear but Strictly no Butchers.

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    A.Salmon July 23, 2016 5:08 pm Reply
  • Sturgeon and McGuinness side by side, shoulder to shoulder, championing “democracy and freedom!”…hissss! you could not make it up… a photo to make the SNP proud eh ?

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    Karl Hughes July 23, 2016 5:40 pm Reply
    • Divide and rule uk style. So 17th century!!
      Pathetic Karl.

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      A.Salmon July 23, 2016 7:35 pm Reply
      • “poignant” is a more apt word than pathetic.

        As for customs checks…the issue is understaffed French border posts amid heightened security checks… due to the terrorism risk… get used to it, this is the world we live in now….and nothing to do with understaffing in the UK.

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        Karl Hughes July 24, 2016 5:28 am Reply
        • You better contact the Tory MP for Dover. He has just launched a scathing attack on your government!
          Just accept for once,the lunatics down South do not have a clue or credibility.

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          A.Salmon July 24, 2016 12:14 pm Reply
  • I note that our incompetent Tory government has not planned for customs checks in France.
    Do they ever plan.i hope their planning for Indi Scotland,we are!

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    A.Salmon July 23, 2016 9:07 pm Reply
    • AS

      You are a laugh a minute. It would appear SNP Scottish Govt been incompetent in NOT planning for Brexit . Still No commitment to Indyref(2). Instead Nicola S seems to think it has been a big deal to secure UK govt willingness ” to consider the options we ( Scottish Govt ) put forward’. Bit of a cop out from Nicola S, don’t you think ?

      Does anyone know what options NS is proposing? But if she gets UK Govt to agree to them, by default, she has to drop any Indyref(2)

      Seems a lose-lose outcome for the SNP

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      Scotnat July 24, 2016 2:11 pm Reply
  • The Christian institute – bunch of right wing numpty heads. Was not one of the main objectors from Carlisle! Engerlund.

    What if your agnostic, atheist, or dare I say the word in case the rukkers begin to froth, Islamic

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    No Cheee Here July 23, 2016 11:59 pm Reply
  • AS… lol… might have helped your cause if you had planned last time…

    and your comments about government planning for Frances custom issues are as expected, totally misleading…its a French issue caused by additional security measures, and the Enlish ports are working … or are you not aware of what is going on in Europe…?

    By the way, are there any ferry routes to the continent from Scotland still operating ???? any routes to Europe without passing through the rest of the Union ???

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    Karl Hughes July 24, 2016 1:37 pm Reply
  • A pretendy Scot nat or ruler appears once again.

    Simple for you rukkers First Minister has the support of Holyrood. I’m surprised Iraq Carol got through the English ports. Has the work dried up IC? Or you been found out lol. Not sure you should be hiding here.

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    No Cheese Here July 24, 2016 4:54 pm Reply
    • Still so empty-headed / immature that you have to resort to butchering real people’s names, NCH?

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      Robert Wakeham July 25, 2016 6:35 pm Reply
  • NCH

    ‘ First Minister has the support of Holyrood’ … yeah ..but so what? She and Holyrood have not committed to Indyref(2) for very obvious reasons(1) she may lose it and (2) she hasn’t a clue what credible EU options she can offer an Independent Scotland.

    She now has to accept the currency reality for an Independent Scotland ie no sterling union, and setting up Scottish Central/Reserve Bank , without which, Brussels would send her away ,to think again.

    Until she comes up with tangible currency and reserve Bank scenarios, Nicola S , and the SNP, are merely blowing hot air, and boring us with their humbug.

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    Scotnat July 24, 2016 6:09 pm Reply
    • pretend scotnat or brit nat. So The First Minister has a mandate and so what!! A wee tinge of detected anger there anglobrit nat. The FM has more of a mandate that creepy drawers I’m in no I’m oot no I’m kinda in May. Just like the other Dick the eejit Eexitteers are now fighting with the Scots, Irish, Northern Irish and the EU. The ruk economy going down the swannee and the Chanc of the Exchequer trying his best with the Chinese to confirm that RUK needs them to build a nuclear power station with the French,. So much for being the powerhouse of industry. Scotland voted to remain -get used to it exitteers or pack your bags and head south as you have promised like dame moan. We need the homes for all the new jobs being created when ruk goes pearshape.

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      No Cheese Here July 25, 2016 12:00 am Reply
      • NCH, do tell us what has happened to Ms Sturgeon’s secret dealings with the Chinese.

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        Richard July 25, 2016 6:57 am Reply
  • It would appear there are two different types of Facts on this site.
    Actual,unequivocal Facts and Unionist Facts.
    Also,the white settlers in Shetland are Shitstirring again. What are they like!!
    The Shetlanders are well aware of their 12mile limit of sovereign waters.

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    A.Salmon July 24, 2016 7:40 pm Reply
  • AS, you sound upset, go for a walk and cool Down, tarbert harbour looks nice at night.

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    Richard July 24, 2016 10:46 pm Reply
    • To busy getting my walking boots dubbed for the March,in Glasgow,this coming Saturday. No anger from me,my little Englander,just steely determination. I can smell both Fear from your ilk and Independence in the wind.
      Many people joining the YES movement that previously voted NO,last time round.
      Who’s heading up the NO side this time?
      May?Davidson?Discredited Brown,The weasel Darling?John Cleese?Dan Snow?
      The red Torys? Blue Torys? Trumpton Fire Service?Uncle Bulgaria?
      I see,old Chap,you’re stuck for choice.

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      A.Salmon July 25, 2016 12:15 pm Reply
      • I should’ve guessed that you wear your boots in bed.

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        Robert Wakeham July 25, 2016 12:38 pm Reply
      • Who needs anybody to “head up” an NO vote…the SNP are doing a perfectly good job without any outside help… the SNP’s hope of Indy is gone… both democratically and logically it is no more, its kaput, finished, broken over… the parrot is yapping but its wings are clipped…QED

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        KH July 25, 2016 1:54 pm Reply
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