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Argyll & Bute’s MP says ‘Brexit shown to be a slogan not a thought out plan’

Brendan O’Hara, SNP MP for Argyll and Bute, reflecting on post-Brexit issues gemane to Scotland, says: ‘We face the very real prospect of being dragged out of Europe against our will.

‘Despite Scotland and the people of Argyll & Bute voting emphatically to remain part of the European Union, we are facing the very real prospect of being dragged out of Europe against our will, due to the Brexit vote in the other parts of the United Kingdom.

‘Not only will that be extremely bad for Argyll & Bute and Scotland but it is I believe, profoundly undemocratic.

‘I have never said that the Europe Union was perfect but it is overwhelmingly in our economic interest to be part of it. The Scotch whisky industry needs a European market, Scotland’s farmers need the support of the EU and for an area experiencing depopulation, we need the ability to attract people and families from other parts of the continent in order to help kick-start our local economy.

‘But above all, decades of close co-operation with our EU partners has kept the peace across a continent that has been at war with itself for centuries and working collaboratively with our EU partners, the UK has been able to provide assistance to democratic governments in Afghanistan, Ukraine and across Africa. Together as a European Union we were working to alleviate the refugee crisis in the Middle East and North Africa. All of that good work is undermined by Brexit and I fear our collective European security will be compromised as a result.

‘Brexit has already been shown to be a slogan rather than a thought-out plan, and as a consequence of last Thursday’s vote there is now a full-blown political crisis in the UK with both the Tories and Labour in absolute disarray; with sackings, resignations, plots and in-fighting on an unprecedented scale.

‘Thankfully we in Scotland continue to have a stable and competent government working hard to get us out of this mess and I fully support Nicola Sturgeon’s attempts to have the democratically expressed wish of the Scottish people respected by both London and Brussels and have Scotland’s position within the EU protected.

‘I should also reiterate Nicola’s word of support to those EU citizens living in Scotland and acknowledge the contribution they make to our national life, to assure them that they are welcome here and that they are greatly valued. I am as determined as she is to say that Argyll & Bute remains open for business and people, regardless of their nationality will be made welcome here.

‘As our First Minister said, in the days, weeks and months ahead we will consider all of the available options to avoid Scotland being dragged out the EU. As Nicola said, nothing is off the table and neither should it be. The SNP government will work with anyone and everyone to ensure that Scotland’s decision is respected and I urge the UK government and government across Europe have to take cognisance of what Scotland said on Thursday.’

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  • “Brexit has already been shown to be a slogan rather than a thought-out plan..”

    Just like Scottish Indy campaign in 2014, then?

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    Andrew Argyle June 27, 2016 3:46 pm Reply
    • So you prefer Mad right and Mad left in England.
      That’s nice!

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      A.Salmon June 27, 2016 7:51 pm Reply
  • “working collaboratively with our EU partners, the UK has been able to provide assistance to democratic governments in Afghanistan, Ukraine and across Africa.”
    Yeah? Democracy from gun barrels.

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    Murdoch MacKenzie June 27, 2016 4:09 pm Reply
  • The SNP – don’t you just love ’em? Want to be independent but don’t want to be independent of the EU with all its rules, regulations and cost.

    I voted to remain and I realise that the UK is currently in meltdown but what we need now is some co-operation from all parties to steady the UK through this very difficult challenge and not a load a childish politicking that will resolve nothing and will more likely cost us all very dear.

    The SNP have no veto about the UK withdrawing from the EU and nor will it have enough support to become independent. It’s about time SNP MSPs and MPs behaved like adults and tried to run Scotland with the devolved powers that they have. We need more jobs – what’s their decision on fracking?

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    Lowry June 27, 2016 7:46 pm Reply
    • Crap.

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      A.Salmon June 27, 2016 8:01 pm Reply
    • Lowry,

      Just back from brexit land? We don’t need wee brexit’s telling Scotland what to do. First Minister is Governing unlike the tories and the little Englander opposition.

      If you want to head to brexit land I help you pack

      Scotland in Europe.

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      No Cheese Here June 28, 2016 1:40 pm Reply
  • Tune into SKY news right now……
    Labour left to go further left.
    Already Tories ready to implement heavy budget in the autumn,S&p downgrade Ukok.
    This is a disaster of epic proportions.
    If you have a pension,be worried ,be very worries. These lunatics are about to implode.
    Nicola should be in a position in 1 month to get us the hell out of here.

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    A.Salmon June 27, 2016 8:00 pm Reply
    • Nicola made a really meaningful contribution today, by telling us it’s ‘Project Farce’. Clearly she’s not learned the lessons of that type of politics from 5 days ago.

      That’ll really help, along with her sniping on twitter.

      I did half hope she might turn out to the a stateswoman, but no, she’s going for the cheap stunts option, soundbites over substance, accusations over assistance, sniping rather than support. Alex Salmond’s protege through and through.

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      JB June 27, 2016 8:15 pm Reply
      • Getting worse for “Britain” Iceland 2-1 up.

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        A.Salmon June 27, 2016 8:23 pm Reply
  • Yeah, yeah. Of course “it was a slogan not a thought”. Where’s Cameron’s Plan A … let alone Plan B?? So everybody’s just wingin’ it now and being given the big heave-ho by the EU – “You want out … so get out … and don’t waste our time!”
    Thought is … that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland … three out of four of the UK countries … voted to Remain. Could anything be made of that??
    Dunno. What do folks think?

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    ClootieDumpling June 27, 2016 8:27 pm Reply
    • If you watch it then I think you will find that the government had considered a strategy should the ‘leave’ camp win. You will also learn that Mr Osborne has not been sitting on his thumbs all weekend. http://news.sky.com/video/1718060/eu-exit-osborne-reacts-to-out-vote

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      Malcolm Kirk June 27, 2016 8:38 pm Reply
      • Are you on the same stuff Osborne takes?

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        A.Salmon June 27, 2016 10:10 pm Reply
    • Fact Checker Clootie Dumpling – Wales voted to leave too!

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      Sian Laidlaw June 28, 2016 7:23 am Reply
      • Not very often I’ll say this but you are correct.
        Wales unfortunately has its fair share of Trumpets too.

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        A.Salmon June 28, 2016 7:33 am Reply
  • Iceland Humiliate England.

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    A.Salmon June 27, 2016 9:54 pm Reply
    • Um – and where was the Scottish football team in the tournament?

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      Lowry June 27, 2016 10:18 pm Reply
      • Flood warning for England as the whole of Scotland pisses itself laughing!

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        A.Salmon June 27, 2016 10:44 pm Reply
        • AS, @ you!

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          Richard June 27, 2016 11:36 pm Reply
  • ‘Despite Scotland and the people of Argyll & Bute voting emphatically to remain part of the European Union, we are facing the very real prospect of being dragged out of Europe against our will, due to the Brexit vote in the other parts of the United Kingdom.

    ‘Not only will that be extremely bad for Argyll & Bute and Scotland but it is I believe, profoundly undemocratic.’

    Brendan O’Hara – I’m sure you will read the comments in response to your own article – is this the same ‘profoundly undemocratic’ that England, Wales and Northern Ireland would have been faced with had the SNP succeeded in their ‘Scottish independence is just a slogan not a thought out plan’ way back in the day of 2014? Or is this just SNP democracy style rather than UK style? Please explain the difference and remember this before you continue to whinge and whine 1) This was a UK vote as the UK is the member state of the EU – not England, not Wales, not Northern Ireland and even believe it or NOT Scotland! 2) Scotland was the only UK region out of the 4 that had a vote in the independence referendum – how democratic. Guess what? Scotland is not that special that it can have it’s cake and eat it 😉

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    Sian Laidlaw June 28, 2016 7:36 am Reply
  • I’m not sure why AS is bleating on about football results. Is s/he a racist?

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    Lowry June 28, 2016 7:37 am Reply
    • It’s football were talking about,right?
      And since when did the English become a race?

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      A.Salmon June 28, 2016 9:25 am Reply
      • Careful, AS, you’re drifting dangerously close to that old dream of a pure Aryan race that led a bunch of National Socialists into committing unimaginable horrors not so long ago.

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        Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 11:09 am Reply
  • Bad news for all those who would drag the UK down but good news for the rest of us: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36648630

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    Malcolm Kirk June 28, 2016 10:44 am Reply
    • It’s not the short term volatility that’s the worry, Malcolm, it’s the medium to long term outlook.
      And that’s where some of our most powerful politicians, on both sides of the argument, have been distinguishing themselves by telling bare-faced lies to an electorate that they clearly hold in contempt.
      And, Malcolm, since even you must surely discount the credibility of Boris Johnson as a fit and proper candidate for leadership, don’t assume his pals can make up for his shortcomings. I’ve just been listening to Andrea Leadsom – she-wolf turned would-be shepherdess – being quizzed about the Brexit affair, and if she represents the Tory future God help the lot of us.

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      Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 11:05 am Reply
      • Does the sun ever shine for you Robert – does everything have to be doom and gloom. This has just been sent to the relevant media by my Daughter in Law who is in the recruitment business. More common sense in dealing with a business problem you won’t find too many other places. Basically it says stop whining and get on with getting through it the best you can. Please read: http://blog.firefishsoftware.com/brexit-recruiters-what-now

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        Malcolm Kirk June 28, 2016 4:37 pm Reply
        • Like I say, Malcolm, it’s not the short term volatility that’s the worry – and, er, I wonder whether your daughter-in-law would consider the estimable and honourable Boris Johnson as a suitable person to promote to potential employers without risking rendering herself unable to obtain professional liability insurance?

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          Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 7:05 pm Reply
          • I can assure you she will be away ahead of you, because unlike you, she has drive and enthusiasm and works all hours to succeed, something you can’t seems to understand because it wasn’t part of your own chosen profession. Did you look at the article Robert ? Can you comment or qualify any of the advice given therein ? I have no idea of her views on Boris but should image she appreciates the same drive and enthusiasm she herself puts into her every day life.

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            Malcolm Kirk June 28, 2016 7:20 pm
          • Why don’t you admit it, Malcolm – Boris is your hero. After all, this is a widespread (and potentially fatal) tendency among the Tory faithful – but not, I think, among their politicians, many of whom seem to have no difficulty in recognising a rogue when they see one.
            Come to think of it, there might be a distant analogy with what’s going on in the Socialist camp just now.

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            Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 8:27 pm
      • Mr O’Hara is right about this. I only hope that he, or someone he knows, has a well-thought-out plan, because we certainly need one. The plan should also involve significant improvements to the EU too, because faults there are part of our current predicament ( and the Brexiteers line on that will only make matters worse ). His plan should also include overhaul of the current neo-liberal world economic system, an arrangement which has had two major, indefensible, and possibly fatal results … the concentration of wealth among a minuscule minority, and the production of large numbers of discarded, unrepresented, and seriously aggrieved people. And that’s without mentioning the environmental collisions to come, which will not encourage political stability. No, I don’t have a well thought-out plan either, I’m only one of the PBI, but at least I think that I know the issues that the plan should address. But perhaps there is indeed a Planet B … in someone’s imagination.

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        Arthur Blue July 2, 2016 11:41 am Reply
  • Alyn Smith,SNP gets standing ovation in the EU Parliament.
    Look out for his speach. A marked contrast to the Idiot Farage.
    Now the big game begins

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    A.Salmon June 28, 2016 11:36 am Reply
    • Whatever he is, it ain’t no idiot – any more than Boris is. I’d go for ‘mad, bad and dangerous to know’ – for both of them.

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      Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 3:00 pm Reply
    • I’m no supporter of UKIP but do enjoy watching Nigel Farage laying down a few facts that others hide from. He said this morning that he doubted whether any, or at least many in the chamber, had ever had proper jobs. I wonder if Alyn Smith blushed !
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

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      Malcolm Kirk June 28, 2016 4:44 pm Reply
      • Farage is a fascist!
        Despicable and Francoesk!
        Empty vessels make the most noise,don’t they Malcolm?

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        A.Salmon June 28, 2016 5:29 pm Reply
        • Don’t suppose there is a chance in hell of the question being answered but has Alyn Smith ever had a proper job or has he always been an indoctrinated soldier of the SNP. Probably a shoe in for the remake of Braveheart – a sad fictional movie.

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          Malcolm Kirk June 28, 2016 7:25 pm Reply
          • He has recently been reported as having one of the worst recorded attendances of any MSP from any members state at the Euro Parliament.

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            newsroom June 28, 2016 7:35 pm
          • Observing politicians ‘debating’ swings between the extremes of watching amateur theatricals and watching paint dry.

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            Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 8:18 pm
          • Possibly not Fascist enough for you.
            That’s Nice!!!

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            A.Salmon June 28, 2016 8:20 pm
      • It was Farage who ought to have blushed. The man behind him, hiding his head in his hands, is Vytenis Andriulakis, a Lithuanian born in Siberia because Staling had deported his family there. After managing to return to Lithuania Mr Andriulakis got high school achievement despots refusing to join the Communist Party, later qualifying in heart surgery and helping to carry out Lithuanias first heart transplant. He helped to write the country’s first constitution when it became independent. I think that head-in-hands is a rather restrained reaction to England’s National Fool.

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        Arthur Blue July 2, 2016 12:54 pm Reply
        • I can spell ” Stalin ” … the damned spell-checker sneakily changed it.

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          Arthur Blue July 2, 2016 12:59 pm Reply
          • I wonder if the lack of an ‘edit’ function puts some people off from commenting?

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            Robert Wakeham July 2, 2016 1:18 pm
  • Nicola is the standout in European politics at present.
    Ruth Davidson better jump darn sarf as I hear some in the Scottish Tory party are mounting a coup if Independence is the only way to keep Scotland in the EU.
    Money talks and Edinburgh will become the new Btitish financial Centre. Where it should have been anyway.
    As George Bernard Shaw said,what would England be without Scotland thinking for it!!

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    A.Salmon June 28, 2016 4:26 pm Reply
    • How many times will Juncker et al have to say no to special conditions before it sinks in? If they did offer special conditions the Spanish would veto it even if NS wasn’t flying kites with the Chief Minister of Gibraltar.

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      db June 28, 2016 4:55 pm Reply
    • Are you sure about Edinburgh, AS – centre of a financial services industry that spawned the culture of hubris and greed that very nearly destroyed the Royal Bank of Scotland – and did such enormous damage to the well-being of the UK?

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      Robert Wakeham June 28, 2016 6:55 pm Reply
      • As you well know,Scots run there financial affairs with caution.
        Gordon Brown being the one stupid exception.

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        A.Salmon June 28, 2016 8:19 pm Reply
        • Not forgetting your fishy namesake Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon and John Swinney with their fantastical wishful thinking completely unrealistic deceitful white paper entitled Scotland’s Future published for the referendum in 2014 – aye finances run with caution!

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          Sian Laidlaw June 28, 2016 9:01 pm Reply
  • For the first time since 1707, Scotland is exerting foreign policy.
    This can only bode well for the Scottish people.

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    A.Salmon June 28, 2016 8:59 pm Reply
  • All Mr Cameron’s “experts” told us of the economic doom that would “inevitably” follow a Brexit win. Yet the stock market is apparently now higher than at any time in the last two months???

    Can any one explain what has become of the “Great Crash of Brexit, 2016”?

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ftse-100-pushes-higher-for-second-day-as-brexit-shudders-fade-2016-06-29?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

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    Andrew Argyle June 29, 2016 8:22 pm Reply
    • You obviously have no concept of how the Markets work. You may get an opportunity soon as they move to Edinburgh.
      The FTSE 100 are mostly global companies. That means their income is mostly derived from abroad,you know,Brown people and Chinese. Most are sticking Monet there and fleeing the FTSE 250 which,by and large,have UKOK companies.
      The real test of the economy will be when the brainless wonders of the Tory Party start to negotiate an exit. Then get your money out of Sterling and FTSE.

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      A.Salmon June 29, 2016 8:37 pm Reply
    • Early days, dear boy – and I thought it was just Osborne who laid it on thick? Mark Carney, who incurred the outrage of Brexit heavy Bernard Jenkin, put the MP firmly in his place. So don’t assume that Brexit will prove to be of any real economic benefit to us, any time soon (quite the reverse, especially if Boris & Co grab the reins).

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      Robert Wakeham June 29, 2016 8:52 pm Reply
  • Brendon O’Hara wrote in an article to the Oban Times on 2nd June 2016 stating that the EU had maintained peace and prosperity for the last 70 years. What a lot of rubbish. The EU has only been in operation since November 1993 as a result of the Maastricht Treaty. Prior to that it was the EEC.
    Mr O’Hara should do his homework before writing articles to the Oban Times or get a proper job!

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    Treble T July 6, 2016 12:19 pm Reply
    • Strictly speaking you’re correct, but don’t you think that he meant the whole long progress of European collaboration that started soon after the end of – and in reaction to – WW2?

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      Robert Wakeham July 6, 2016 12:52 pm Reply
      • Maybe Robert – but in bundling them into one, O-Hara does what many do – brush over the fact that that EU now is completely different to what is started out as – and that is one reason people are so fed up of it.

        Whereas the focus was on (peace through) trade, it has morphed into an entity that is attempting to be a superstate. We can (or should be able to) trade without monetary, economic or political union.

        So I would suggest Treble T is quite in order to point out O’Hara’s misspeak. It’s a crucial point that should not be glossed over.

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        JB July 6, 2016 6:39 pm Reply
      • If Brendan O’Hara had said that NATO had kept the peace in Europe since April 1949 then he would have been correct but he tried to “hoodwink” the readers of the Oban Times into thinking that the EU had maintained peace and prosperity in Europe for the last 70 years (since 1946) which of course is total rubbish.
        Incidentally Brendan O’Hara’s incorrect article which was published in the Oban Times on 2nd June 2016 was published in the Campbeltown Courier on 10th June 2016 “word for word”. Brendan O’Hara obviously believes what he writes even if it is factually wrong.
        As the SNP Shadow Defence spokesman in Westminster Brendan O’Hara should have known better but of course he may have been “dancing” to Nicola’s tune.
        No wonder the voters throughout the UK are fed up with the pack of lies that politicians of all parties tell the British public. The EU referendum has allowed the voters throughout the UK to finally make their vote count and if the MP’s and MSP’s do not like it then too bad!

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        Treble T July 7, 2016 12:47 pm Reply

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