Reform Group budget proposal gets three votes – their own – while Council Leader steals their clothes

At today’s, 11th February, council meetings on the 2016-17 budget decision, The Reform Group’s fresh, radical and enlivening  proposal received only three votes – their own. Some councillors who might have supported it – the SNP’s Iain Angus Macdonald and Iain MacLean were absent. [Why? For this crucial meeting?]

Council Leader Dick Walsh went for his favourite Music Hall routine – letting no one know his proposal until the last minute and then pulling tired rabbits out of old hats.

Reading what he has finally done – which demonstrates that he could indeed assimilate the imposed cuts with far less pain than he had held over Argyll, raises the question of the level of irresponsibility he has displayed in leading council staff to fear for their jobs and Argyll residents to fear for key services

With this care for the morale of staff, it can be no surprise that one of the rabbits hauled from the dusty Walsh topper was the stunner that no fewer than over 450 Council employees have expressed interest in voluntary redundancy. And that is after the last eight yeas of annual council budget cuts have seem many others take the same route. Does anyone actually want to work for this outfit?

Since the Concil Leader plans 82 FTEs in lost jobs, he regards what is breathtaking evidence of a dysfunctional employer as a really lucky strike. He’ll be able to hand out the redundancies as prizes to the fastest making it to the Exit door.

Stealing The Reform Group’s clothes

In his self congratulatory press release, the old conjuror stole some of the clothes of The Reform Group’s new thinking.I is an inverted compliment that he sees much of their policy as his own survival jacket.

He said:

  • ‘Where we have taken savings, we have focused on innovation and efficiency, not least by reducing the elected member budget by £150,000. We will pursue management savings as part of our transformation journey.’
  • He is also taking over three quarters of a million out of staff travel costs – without saying how this will be achieved; where The Reform Group’s own plan for this was made possible by a radical restructuring of management and internal communications.
  • ‘We will focus therefore over the next twelve months on giving more power to local areas, involving them in prioritising local spending on a range of issues that matter to them. The need to make savings and to transform how we work is long term. Working in partnership will ensure we make the best use of whatever resources we have.’

His plans include:

  • pushing rubbish collections out to three weekly intervals;
  • taking 25% out of the budget for dangerous/urgent maintenance within Roads and Amenity property;
  • taking 25% out of the budget for dangerous/urgent maintenance within depots ;
  • maintaining hedges in winter only [which may means no maintenance] and with one cut per year;
  • cutting grass only once a year and in October / November – ‘with other areas returned to meadow/natural growth’;
  • returning rose and shrub beds to grass.

Given the impact of these choices on life in Argyll, he then announces: ‘We have ensured therefore that we are in a position to invest in creating economic growth. Our package of measures will see an investment, from our financial reserves and capital funding, of some £75 million designed to attract more people to live and work here, securing employment and prosperity for our area.’

The detail of what is to be cut is the last – and long – section in the council press release here.

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  • It would be safe to say that although the the reform group only had three votes they actually have almost delivered their budget almost in full. They have perhaps saved Argyll from what clearly Mr Walsh could only see as devastation of services in the run up to the budget. Mr Breslin had published his budget early and shown a clear way of delivering what actually looks like Mr Breslins budget.

    The real pain in this is that we are still having Councillors voting as a herd of sheep carraled in a voting pen of financial extra payments from Mr Walsh with the only way to escape is vote against his orders of how to vote, this is the oublics fault. I don’t see any white rabbits maybe just a white from Mr Walsh who has undoubtedly learned lessons from the alternative budget thank goodness?

    I’m off to Glasgow today shopping as the Internet is broken again by BT and we only have charity shops left and you need to pay for parking in Oban

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    MB February 12, 2016 6:16 am Reply
  • Oh sorry SNP did not shows ? What in gods name is that about?

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    MB February 12, 2016 6:18 am Reply
  • These cuts are devastating for Argyll and Bute. Absolute rubbish for Walsh to say he is ‘listening’. Saving hanging baskets is a fig leaf over the real potential harm that has been done. Shame on you Argyll and Bute councillors. Everyone who tried to stop this lunacy, and there were many, should vote with your feet in 2017!

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    Citizen of argyll and bute February 12, 2016 8:13 am Reply
  • Transferring many council jobs to a trust is almost just phased redundancy and a washing of hands of workers life’s in Argyll, do people not see throughs this reteric ?

    Economic growth is a joke in Argyll it’s been flat lining for years or should that be dropping off the scale. ArgyllM economic forum has delivered nothing as expected, public agencies zero.

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    MB February 12, 2016 8:30 am Reply
  • How come today the reform Group’s proposals are (according to Newsie) ” fresh, radical and enlivening” when two days ago she described them as “often impractical … operationally”.

    Two days is obviously a long time in politics when Newsie is trying, yet again, to stick it to Dick.

    However, it does look at though the voluntary redundancies might just have prevented the need for drastic service cuts. That’s certainly been the case in Dumfries and Galloway where 700 early retirement/voluntary redundancies at a cost of some £17 million have saved the Council £100 million. Source – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-35502939

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    Simon February 12, 2016 10:12 am Reply
    • Let slow down here and analyse……
      Iain Angus MacDonald wrote a paper roughly 3 years ago.
      This paper was for all to see.
      The reform group publish an alternative budget to Dick’s budget.
      This budget alternative appears to have picked up on much of Iain Angus MacDonald’s paper.
      “Forargyll” accuse Dick of stealing his budget from the “reform ” group who stole it from Iain Angus MacDonalds published paper in the first place.
      The plot thickens……..
      If this is such an “in demand” paper of Iain Angus MacDonald, why was it not enacted on 3 years ago.
      And the answer is…….
      this is how Argyll and Bute Council works under the rule of Dick Walsh and Sally Loudon.
      One down…….one to go ……at least one.
      Another hilarious part of this pantomime is the SNP’s Iain Angus MacDonald was part of the administation under Dick Walsh before joining the SNP group.
      You couldn’t make it up.
      .
      I keep asking, Anyone know how much Castle Toward has cost Argyll and Bute Council in the last year?

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      KEITHO February 15, 2016 4:13 pm Reply
  • Has anyone locked the back door at Kilmory Castle to stop those taking redundancy from reentering the building on ‘consultancy contracts’. What became of the three SNP chickens who failed to turn up?

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    Alistair February 12, 2016 2:15 pm Reply
  • Every council in Scotland and every councillor in Scotland are having a really difficult time right now. No matter which party or no party at all, things are having to be done that no-one wants to do,
    These difficult decisions have been caused by a failed Labour Government in alliance with greedy bankers only to be followed by a failed Tory/ Libdem alliance in government who imposed austerity cuts on those who could least afford them while doing nothing to make the millionaire bankers pay.
    I have some sympathy for many councillors throughout the country but none for those who promoted and fronted up the “bette together” campaign.
    We are all paying for Westminster failing us.

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    KEITHO February 12, 2016 7:01 pm Reply
  • I see that anonymous degenerate Simon has crawled out of the sewer again to defend Walsh. Predictable.

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    Cllr Michael Breslin February 12, 2016 9:48 pm Reply
    • Personally, I thought mine was quite an anodyne post pointing out as it did yet another Newsie volte face together with a link to a BBC report on the money saving efforts of Dumfries and Galloway Council. However, I seem to have touched something of a raw nerve with Cllr Breslin. In his world at least that post somehow makes a ‘crawling, sewer-living-degenerate-Walsh-defender’.
      Wow! Really??
      This intemperate, ill-judged, name- calling strop from an elected councillor is akin to a very spoilt wean throwing its dummy out of the pram. An action achieves nothing except to reveal something about the wean itself.

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      Simon February 13, 2016 10:32 am Reply
      • Simon….Pot…kettle? He is always going to have the upper hand because unlike you and me he reveals himself for who and what he is. You and I stay in the shadows.

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        Citizen of argyll and bute February 13, 2016 7:34 pm Reply
    • Maybe not the best choice of language Councillor.
      To be seen as a creditable alternative you have to act like one.
      I hope you are, and do.

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      KEITHO February 14, 2016 8:12 pm Reply
  • A&B council is a total basket case! Comments?

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    Hugh Jazz February 12, 2016 10:47 pm Reply
  • Convenient amnesia again, HJ?

    Let me remind you of the last council election.

    Largest Party – SNP who formed an administration as would be expected. Unfortunately they ran away and left us without a council for a while until Dick Walsh rode to the rescue.

    Who put the basketcase council in power?? SNP!!

    Who put Maggie Thatcher in power??? SNP!!!

    Bit of a theme here?

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    JimB February 13, 2016 8:51 am Reply
    • It was Labour’s basket case government that brought Maggie to power to be followed years later by their next basket case government bringing Bomber Dave to power

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      Murdoch MacKenzie February 13, 2016 10:45 am Reply
      • MM

        It WAS the SNP that begat the Thatcher Govt.

        https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/789/march-1979-what-really-happened-when-the-snp-brought-down-a-minority-labour-government

        Consistently you try to re-write history with no evidence to support your argument

        One of your recent posts stated that claim clan lands had been lost by Unionist Laws. I suggest you read Gregory’s ‘ The History of the Western Highlands and Isles of Scotland 1493-1625’ .

        Stealing clan land was a national sport for the Clans long before the Union.

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        SCOTNAT February 13, 2016 11:14 am Reply
        • Gregory does not sound like a Highland name to me. What year did he write his novel?

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          Murdoch MacKenzie February 13, 2016 1:07 pm Reply
          • Not only are you competing with Hugh Jazz for stupidity and ignorance , but now add racial prejudice to your repertoire .

            For your edification Gregory, originally of MacGregor ancestry was a scion of the Gregory dynasty, originally from Aberdeen but latterly Edinburgh. The Gregory dynasty lit up the intellectual firmament of Scotland from the 17th To the 19th C . His father James, was in Robert Burns’ estimation the last of the Scottish Latinists. Donald G in 1830 was a founding father of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland.

            This work which out of your own ignorance you refer to as a ‘novel’ was a work of historical reseach published in 1836.It regarded as “ an invaluable and classic piece of scholarship on an era of Highland history which is often neglected.”

            The quotation is from the Introduction by Martin MacGregor ( Senior Lecturer in Scottish History Glasgow Univ)

            Scottish enough ?? Or does it present you with the inconvenient truth that what you posted on FA was borne of your ignorance and your prejudice?

            if you still have doubts , check your facts out with Prof Tom Devine, but maybe, being of Irish extraction, he is not Scottish enough for you?

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            SCOTNAT February 13, 2016 1:50 pm
          • So he was a city boy then? Nothing wrong with that, but did he speak the Gaelic Language so that he could weigh up the history from both sides of the divide? Even when I was a kid there were people in Scotland who could not speak a word of English.

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            Murdoch MacKenzie February 13, 2016 4:51 pm
        • The Callaghan Labour government was a disaster. Amazingly, the Northern Irish SDLP and the Republican MP Frank Maguire did not support the government, it was so bad. Callaghan was a disgrace, he had to go.
          .
          Thatcher was an incredible disaster, who still managed to get re-elected.
          I suppose that is the fault of the SNP also.
          Democracy, as we know it throws up some strange results.
          .
          If Labour had shown some basic democratic honesty in 1979 Scotland would be independent and the Westminster Government might never have had the horrors of Thatcherism.

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          KEITHO February 15, 2016 2:49 pm Reply
          • Rewriting history again KO?

            The Labour Party had let the country down but it does not exonerate the SNP from responsibility for the rise of Thatcher. If the SNP had voted differently Thatcher would not have come to power No amount of spin is going the change the reality of this happening.

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            JimB February 15, 2016 6:33 pm
          • Go on Jimb re-read your own post to realise how nonsensical it is.
            .
            “Rewriting history again KO?
            .
            “The Labour Party had let the country down” you are damn right there.
            .
            They have continued to let the country down under Blair and Brown. They had such a majority under Blair they could have changed the country for the better instead they changed into Tories, red Tories.
            Callaghan was so bad even the NI nationalists wouldn’t back him. That fact alone tells you so much.
            Under your skewed logic you would argue Gerry Fitt and Frank McGuire were responsible for Thatcher’s government.
            How thick are you?
            Answers in single syllables please lest he mis-construes it again.

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            KEITHO February 15, 2016 8:58 pm
    • Another attempt by a London Loving Yoon to distort History.

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      Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 12:43 pm Reply
      • HJ

        You have to go into the Guinness Book of Records for the man for whom the depth of his ignorance knows NO depth and his refusal to gain knowledge knows NO bounds.

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        SCOTNAT February 13, 2016 1:08 pm Reply
        • Scoot nit,when I reach your level of inadequacy,I’ll know I’ve reached the summit !
          52% support Indi2 right now! Worried,you should be!!

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          Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 2:38 pm Reply
          • NO .

            It aint gonna happen. The proof? You are the stuck record of a worried man who knows it aint gonna happen.

            Nicola S needs 60% not 52% and needs to see it consistently at 60% for 12 months ..and pigs will fly.

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            SCOTNAT February 13, 2016 2:55 pm
          • “….You may take our land and our freedom. But so long as 100 of us remain alive, you will never deprive us of our grievance agenda. It would be like taking salt from our porridge….” lol… look in the mirror Jazz, thats the cold sweat of a dark epiphany… the realisation of NO indy is sinking in 🙂 QED

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            Karl Hughes February 13, 2016 3:04 pm
          • http://www.thinkscotland.org/…/ThinkScotland%20–%20SNP‘s%20broken%2.

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            richard February 13, 2016 3:34 pm
      • HJ

        I don’t think Murdoch M will take kindly to your suggesting he is a London Loving Yoon attempting to distort history.

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        SCOTNAT February 14, 2016 10:22 am Reply
  • We need to stop talking about new powers(Traps) and move to full Independence,NOW!

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    Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 3:35 pm Reply
  • We need to cease talking about new powers and move to Independence,NOW!

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    Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 3:37 pm Reply
  • We need to end talks about new powers and move to Independence,NOW.

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    Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 3:38 pm Reply
  • Tell Cameron,the pig fancier,where to stick his fiscal thingy!

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    Hugh Jazz February 13, 2016 3:39 pm Reply
    • Why does the SNP not just get on with governing the country rather than sitting back and blaming Westminster for just about everything? Then we could see what they can do.
      Actually I thought the first SNP (coalition) government worked quite well – was it all down the other party?

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      JimB February 15, 2016 6:47 pm Reply
  • I have just seen a teddy whizz by…That has just made my day 🙂 LOL… enjoy the rest of the weekend.

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    Karl Hughes February 13, 2016 4:21 pm Reply
    • HJ, your very bitter today, is it because Karl’s side beat Scotland?

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      richard February 13, 2016 6:54 pm Reply
      • Bitter!
        I voted YES,can’t be bitter!
        Bitter Together?

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        Hugh Jazz February 14, 2016 1:42 pm Reply
  • Aux contraire mon brave – you are the epitome of bitterness.

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    JimB February 15, 2016 9:29 am Reply
  • The only bitterness I tolerate is the lemon I use to wipe the smile of my face once I have glanced at the Crazy Yoons posts.

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    Hugh Jazz February 15, 2016 12:31 pm Reply
    • HJ

      WARNING … lemons on your face can cause phytophotodermatitis (PPD)which makes skin hypersensitive to ultraviolet light.

      It is a potent skin irritant, which may explain why all you offer FA is your repetitive bile and prejudice.

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      SCOTNAT February 15, 2016 1:34 pm Reply
      • If you claim of me to be Predudice about the so called Yoonion,I agree.
        500 plus days have passed,and not one solitary new power!!
        What really annoys you is there are a substantial,and growing,group of people that will demand Independence from the London Crooks.
        I’m just one of them,boyo!!!

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        Hugh Jazz February 15, 2016 3:24 pm Reply
        • Errr beg to differ… I know its a bit difficult for you to pull your head out of “where the sun don’t shine” … but you might want to check your facts on that one HJ… people are laughing at you now and not with you … boyo?? (A stereotypically Welsh form of address for a man, usually younger than the speaker… is this you doffing your cap to the Welsh victory…???

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          Karl Hughes February 15, 2016 4:24 pm Reply
          • So,in your warped world,the vow has been honoured?
            You should try for employment on “Distorting Scotland”

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            Hugh Jazz February 15, 2016 5:33 pm
          • I am not the one complaining Jazz.., you are the one who stated, and I quote you boyo…”We ( SNP?) need to stop talking about new powers and move to full independance now!!!”… so you are, because of your obvious bitter disapointment firstly, dictating to the political party YOU voted for… and then ignoring the majority of the people of Scotland said NO… now I am not sure where you call home, but if it is Scotland show some respect for your fellow Scots…those that believe in and abide by democratic process….boyo.

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            Karl Hughes February 15, 2016 7:25 pm
  • I think Hugh Jazz is most likely a computer generated “Pop Up” !
    One of those annoying wee adverts that pops up when you are trying to rent for example a car… offering cosmetic surgery or PPI recovery…

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    Karl Hughes February 15, 2016 12:55 pm Reply
  • Even allowing for “garbage in garbage out” a computer would make more sense than the ignorant anus.
    He is more to be pitied really.

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    JimB February 15, 2016 6:56 pm Reply
    • What manners you have .It is perfectly obvious that my argument irritates you and you and your Spanners!

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      Hugh Jazz February 15, 2016 9:59 pm Reply
      • HJ, even though it’s half term it’s past your bedtime so off you go before your mum clips your ear.
        Oh I forgot to remind you to take your Braveheart makeup off and stop making guttural noises pretending you speak gaelic. Don’t get upset your still president of the Carmichael Club , no one will beat you for ‘untruths’ and exaggeration.

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        Richard February 15, 2016 10:18 pm Reply
        • Got fed up with being Scoot nit,Hughes,etc?
          Anyway looks like crude oil is on a rapid North bound journey.
          I always suspected you knew squat about economics!
          SNP 1&2

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          Hugh Jazz February 15, 2016 10:32 pm Reply
          • HJ

            If, as you say “looks like crude oil is on a rapid North bound journey” then, not only will it be a disaster for the Scottish economy but your Independence delusion will go with it as well .

            The good news, today and it is another wee problem for the SNP, Scotland base load to 2030 has been secured with the Torness extention ie Scotland remains nuclear dependent.

            Like your supposed oil economist former leader Alex S, you show, once more, your abject ignorance on everything you opinion.

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            SCOTNAT February 16, 2016 11:41 am
          • Sorry Hj it looks as if oil has turned south again but you really must get your story straight . One minute you are saying that oil is not important for Scotland and then you are gloating when the price starts to rise

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            Plugit February 16, 2016 5:15 pm
      • Your argument? When did you EVER express a point of argument? All we get from you are opinions with nothing to back them up, gobbledegook and abuse.

        As for spanners, I have a large adjustable one which reminds me of you. It is a King Dick spanner.

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        JimB February 16, 2016 6:40 pm Reply
  • Hugh Jazz Soul. For you to ponder…Shock Russia-Saudi oil deal sends Brent plunging and stalls FTSE rally – live

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/marketreport/12159118/FTSE-dax-cac-nikkei-shanghi-composite-ecb-peoples-bank-of-china-yuan-gold-bonds-dow-jones-fed-bank-of-japan.html

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    RichieMac February 16, 2016 12:34 pm Reply
    • What a pathetic and self loathing post!
      You obviously rejoice in the job loses being experienced in Aberdeen?
      You also obviously have no clue that Scotland’s economy is exactly the same as Ukok without oil!
      You obviously are just a sad sack!!

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      Hugh Jazz February 16, 2016 4:28 pm Reply
  • Rather than refering to an upward gallop to $100+ pb ( which I assuer you from a major Iraqi oil venture here in Basrah is not going to happen)maybe in “North bound” he actually thinks oil is been returned to Scotland ???? the she/he/it known as HUgh Jazz is a complete jerk…I have no more time to waste on it.

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    Karl Hughes February 16, 2016 1:58 pm Reply
    • Thanks for the non information,Carol.
      For the record,I find you a banal,Ukokist Britnat,thick and unstirred.
      And that’s just you good points.
      I’ll give you a wee heads up n oil,not that it matters to Scotland,but it will be at $65 a barrel by Christmas.
      I work for oil companies too.
      Stop telling lies to the few idiots that read this pulp!

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      Hugh Jazz February 16, 2016 4:33 pm Reply
      • What odds are you offering on oil being $65 by Christmas? And will you please confirm that you are referring to Christmas 2016? Come on, HJ, none of your usual shyness. Let’s have it straight, both your odds and which Christmas.

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        Alex McKay February 16, 2016 5:06 pm Reply
      • HJ. I suppose someone has to clean the toilets. Judging by your posts on here. you are an expert on the brown stuff.

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        JimB February 16, 2016 6:23 pm Reply
        • God,you’re a bore!
          Brown stuff!!
          You’ll complain that Scotland is a fiscal basket case when oil is $100. Admit it,you just love London and hate Scotland.
          Were you bullied at school?

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          Hugh Jazz February 16, 2016 6:39 pm Reply
          • Actually at $100 a barrel Scotland would probably be viable or at least just about. The point is that it cannot be relied on and the country’s future cannot be based on oil staying at that level or taxes have to rise. Ask yourself why your cult leaders have run away from the prospect of full fiscal autonomy.

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            JimB February 16, 2016 6:49 pm
          • So, no response to my challenge, HJ? I didn’t think you had any bottle behind your illiterate bluster.

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            Alex McKay February 17, 2016 8:27 am
      • Light crude or Brent ? ” I work for oil companies too ” LOL what ? cooking oil for ya mars bars ?…. chances are light crude will make it up to $45 pb by 4th quarter… given todays news that OPEC are talking and will fix at Jan’s production levels…mainly because Saudia is now feeling the hit…hey but NS oil is stuffed nowadays at anthing under $70 pb…gas is a different matter…but the whole of the uk..especially the SNP…lol…has plenty of gas….
        However, Iraq and especially Iran ( sunni) have not as yet said they will comply to OPEC ( saudia whabi/ sunni ruled) so lets see… but the actual fact is it will take 6 months to reduce the global stockpile, reduce the glut… you could possibly see oil peak @ $70 next winter if there is a 3rd ww in the middle east….the hard fact is NS oil is to expensive to exploit….a lot of cheaper oil out there…not now worth investing in the NS exploration for less than $70 pb…so suck dry the 27% of reserves that cost less than $45 and we are quids in… 12> 18 years max…and then 18bn£ decomissioning bill……… NS oil is going to become a UK liability….or would you rather it be a Scottish liability ???? now go away… done with you…no more nice chats.

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        Karl Hughes February 16, 2016 7:17 pm Reply
        • Now,that would be your problem Carol.We are not going away.That Telephone poll today shows Brexit is now a distinct reality,as the wee Britnats Nash their teeth at Johnny Foreigner!!
          It would appear that the Scottish Government are testing the water re Brexit,Trident,fiscal agreement,Tory rule for the next 20 years.
          Looks to me like end of Days for the Yoonion.
          And if truth be told,the way you are angrily bouncing about on here,Yes is going to win,convincingly!!

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          Hugh Jazz February 16, 2016 8:46 pm Reply
          • Still no response to my challenge, HJ? Your continued refusal to respond reveals you to be all bullshit and no substance.

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            Alex McKay February 17, 2016 4:24 pm
      • HJ

        So you have given your heads up that ‘oil be will be at $65 a barrel by Christmas, and you work for oil companies too’

        Have you put your money where your mouth is ??

        Dec 2016 Brent is trading below $40.. so you could be on a fortune, but if your trading expertise is similar to your posts on FA then all you offer is vacuous nonsense.

        As for your working for oil companies, so what. You are delusional if you think that working for oil companies vests you with sapiential authority on the oil market. Most self-proclaimed oil sapients did not see the current oil crash coming…Alex S and the SNP come to mind.

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        SCOTNAT February 17, 2016 11:12 am Reply
        • How’s your wee knaff friend of yours,Gideon,getting on with reducing the National Debt.Been a bit of a disaster for the Tory’s,eh!!
          If Gidoen got off the Snow-White and actually looked at the Ukok books,he would discover it is Bankrupt,just like Greece!!
          Scotland,on the other hand,has never been in debt,ever!!

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          Hugh Jazz February 17, 2016 12:23 pm Reply
          • HJ

            Once more you show your ignorance is infinite . You state ‘Scotland,on the other hand,has never been in debt,ever!!’

            To have any credibility this has to be refer to Scotland’s pre-1707 Union. But prior to 1707 there were no national or international financial mechanisms or institutions to ‘afford’ national debt.

            I assume you are aware that the failure of the Darien scheme, near as damn it bankrupted Scotland, and may have promoted the 1707 Union ?

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            SCOTNAT February 17, 2016 1:05 pm
  • Karl, the tax avoider in Basrah. Heading to Iran next? Don’t worry we will keep paying our taxes here to pay for the NHS ETC when you return as an economic migrant. lol.

    Looks like most of the britnats on here don’t live here most of the time. Yooniists trolls.

    SNP will win x2

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    No Cheese Here February 16, 2016 2:15 pm Reply
    • Until you nuts get rid of the chip and start providing some answers…:) you are done buddy :)… just read…don’t bother answering no more replies to your quarter.

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      Karl Hughes February 16, 2016 2:30 pm Reply
  • UK is nuclear dependent.
    An industry now hawked of to France and China.
    Scotland is being held over a “nuclear “barrel” because of the lack of ambition from the UK government. Carbon capture technology abandoned.
    Promised investment which had already guaranteed creating thousands of jobs in ‘GREEN industries also abandoned
    .
    It is not Scotland that has a “wee problem” it is UK ltd, shutting down its own industries because of lack of vision. The UK has a “MAJOR PROBLEM”
    There is little “united” about “The United Kingdom”.
    Another dividend from “better together” and the more “dividends” like that the sooner the next referendum.

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    KEITHO February 16, 2016 5:21 pm Reply
    • And as your illustrious leader stated ” Scotland is going to become the saudia arabia of renewable energy” ..yea right lol… and the went away and brought norweigian and Japanese tech and forgot about Scottish wave power.. lol…god when ir comes to the last 15 years…you fellas have such sort memories, go back 200 and you have a minute by minute grasp of every breath… you could not make it up … 🙂

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      Karl Hughes February 16, 2016 7:25 pm Reply
  • KO
    Carbon capture sounds relatively simple, but isn’t! Various research organizations have been working on the idea since 1991 which is a quarter of a century ago and in all that time nobody has been able to develop a practical ,and more importantly, an economic way of doing it.

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    JimB February 16, 2016 6:12 pm Reply
  • So if i’m reading this correctly , does this new budget , mean an increase in the frequency of grass cutting.

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    Tom Hayward February 16, 2016 6:49 pm Reply
    • Tom… only of its on the other side of the fence.

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      Karl Hughes February 16, 2016 7:35 pm Reply
      • the green side , or over the rainbow

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        Tom Hayward February 16, 2016 7:51 pm Reply

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