Secret paper reveals massive planned cuts to local health services

Local MSP, Jackie Baillie, has called on the SNP Scottish Government to take action to prevent what she has described as ‘the decimation of local health services’ following the revelation that NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde is planning to make cuts of £60 million.

A secret health board document has uncovered plans:

  • to remove all emergency services from the Vale of Leven Hospital;
  • to shut the children’s ward at the Royal Alexandra Hospital [RAH];
  • and threaten closure at Community Maternity Units at the Vale, Inverclyde and the RAH.

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde has already identified £13-14 million savings – and the paper highlights proposals for the additional £48 million required.

In addition to cutting local health services, the planning document also says that jobs will come under threat, stating: ‘Workforce is our biggest cost, to deliver this savings target we need to reduce the numbers of staff we have and establish lower unit costs ways of delivering services.’

Jackie Baillie, who is Scottish Labour’s spokesperson for Public Services, argues that the cuts would have severe consequences for local patients and is calling on the SNP to pledge to protect services.

She says: ‘This secret paper contains plans that would devastate local health services in my constituency and across the whole of the west of Scotland. With the future of the Community Maternity Units at Inverclyde, the Vale of Leven and the RAH hanging in the balance, the closure of the children’s ward at the RAH and the removal of emergency services at the Vale, our local health services would be cut to the bone.

‘Despite all the rhetoric, this paper makes it clear that NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde needs to make £60 million of savings. This is an devastating example of SNP austerity resulting in more cuts to our NHS and greater centralisation of services.

‘The SNP Health Secretary met with a group of my constituents only a few months ago and promised to protect and enhance services at the Vale of Leven Hospital.

‘Now we know that – all along – plans were being drawn up drastically to cut services, not just at the Vale but across the whole of the West of Scotland.

‘The SNP is ultimately in charge of the NHS in Scotland and after nearly a decade in government and a majority in parliament, people are fed up of them saying one thing but doing another.

‘Patients and NHS staff need a clear guarantee from the SNP Government that all services at the Vale of Leven, RAH and Inverclyde will be protected from the cuts.’

Note: The document referred to by Ms Baillie was seen by and has been published on here by The Evening Times tonight, 14th January 2016.

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  • If that is the plan for Glasgow and Clyde I wonder what they have in store for us?

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    Richard January 14, 2016 9:15 pm Reply
    • Dick- Ambulance Chaser?

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      Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 2:25 pm Reply
      • He’s posing a perfectly reasonable question that’s in many people’s minds, so your asinine comment serves only to suggest that you don’t believe that we have the right to question the government’s handling of the NHS.

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        Robert Wakeham January 15, 2016 5:26 pm Reply
    • It is a discussion document! I am sure For Argyll would have informed us of this!!
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35325639

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      No Cheese Here January 16, 2016 3:10 pm Reply
  • No secret paper, the discussions on the services once the new SGH was opened was already underway. RAH to SGH childrens wing is 7.8m.
    I believe the maternity units should remain open. No decision has been made!!

    Baillie’s “my constituency”.. makes you want to wash your hands something her Vale of Leven failed to do when labour was in charge.

    Any chance we can see the secret paper from labour saying where the money is coming from.

    ps her secret health board document is circulated to all her labour plants in NHS GG&C, Elected councillors including labour.

    Any chance we can see her secret emails to Lynda Henderson every week? Maybe not Neil McIntyre’s no talking to her since he support Kieron campaign!!

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    No Cheese Here January 14, 2016 9:24 pm Reply
  • Is councillor Neil MacIntyre talking to anyone?

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    Viceroy Fluffy January 14, 2016 9:47 pm Reply
  • Jackie Baillie!
    Credible witness??

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    Hugh Jazz January 14, 2016 11:11 pm Reply
  • Neil MacIntyre now there’s a name from tbe past, was he not the one who was going to sort everything out in tbe council? Right up till the first pay day that was. Until we get credible Councillors Were doomed

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    MB January 14, 2016 11:21 pm Reply
  • Union in crisis?
    Only 44% of Scots going to vote for unionist parties- latest poll tonight!!
    SNP 32% lead!!

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    Hugh Jazz January 14, 2016 11:31 pm Reply
    • snp 32% lead.

      Watch out for all those unionists doing house visits etC.
      99% POSTAL BALLOT VOTES FOR THE UNION!!!???

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      No Cheese Here January 15, 2016 8:24 am Reply
  • Jackie Baillie demands a public enquiry into the “for argyll “

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    Keitho January 14, 2016 11:33 pm Reply
  • Crisis for Union!
    Unionist parties combined only polling tonight at 44%
    Looks like the end of Days for them?

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    Hugh Jazz January 14, 2016 11:33 pm Reply
    • Jackie Baillie calls for public enquiry into Hugh Jazz

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      Keitho January 15, 2016 12:14 am Reply
  • When are you SNP folk going to actually realise what’s going on?
    The NHS in Scotland is a mess. People are dying because of the failure of the SNP government’s lack of following things through. Throwing money at things doesn’t work unless you actually make the recipients follow it through. For example, MND nurses posts not even advertised by some health boards. A total disgrace!
    Why is no one from government chasing this up?

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    Neilfie January 15, 2016 12:25 am Reply
    • Go check the stats Neilfie.
      The SNP came to office in a minority government in 2007, with the opposition collectively trying to not allow any radical changes be passed by parliament.
      Hidden Labour/Libdem waiting lists are a thing of the past.
      In every aspect of health care since then the NHS and their wonderful workers have surpassed anything that a failing Labour / Libdem executive could have ever dreamt off.
      Go check the stats.
      The SNP Government have set challenges way beyond anything ever envisaged before and in Dec 2015 achieved a 97.2% success rate……..
      Well done.

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      Keitho January 15, 2016 12:45 am Reply
    • People Die-Fact
      Union’s Dying-Fact

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      Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 6:30 pm Reply
  • And so, today’s shock horror story is the revelation that the SNP are going to decimate the NHS.

    Truly, we are doomed. Truly The SNP are Baad. Jackie says so.

    I can’t keep up. Woe, woe, woe. SNP baad, very baad.

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    willie January 15, 2016 1:03 am Reply
  • SNP baaaaaad!

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    Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 10:21 am Reply
    • Jazz, your not in the UK never mind Scotland,so you don’t exactly qualify to pass comment, just be happy sitting there counting all that tax free dosh.

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      Richard January 15, 2016 11:58 am Reply
      • So who is HJ, and where is HJ, Richard?

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        Robert Wakeham January 15, 2016 5:30 pm Reply
        • Mmmmmmmmmm!

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          Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 6:00 pm Reply
        • Wakeum= Poirot!

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          Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 6:02 pm Reply
        • Try Norway

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          Richard January 15, 2016 8:59 pm Reply
          • Dick= inquisitive but stupid!

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            Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 9:10 pm
          • Hughie boy, oh so lonely.

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            John M January 15, 2016 10:55 pm
  • Sigh.
    Whatever happened to the sensible and informed discussions there used to be on this site before all these idiot SNP trolls took over?
    I’ve just answered my own question, of course. The idiot SNP trolls took over, and the sensible and informed contributors just can’t be bothered any more.

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    ClootieDumpling January 15, 2016 12:09 pm Reply
    • Ain’t that the truth Clootie !

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      Malcolm Kirk January 15, 2016 12:58 pm Reply
      • Kirk= big expanse of space,empty most of the time!

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        Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 2:43 pm Reply
    • Come on now clootie
      .
      WARNING
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      THIS IS AN ANTI-SNP BLOG
      .
      .
      If you swallow any of this please refer yourself to the nearest ………….,,,,,,,,,,,,pub
      .
      .
      ” the sensible and informed contributors”
      .
      You can’t be talking about Malcolm Kirk surely, He shoots windmills.
      Or Richard, he had his “better together Kintyre” blog as his guideline to “truth” or Lowry, he is usually well Lowry, a catalogue of idiotic statements.
      No give me NCH or Willie any day.
      You obviously have a problem if you thick “for argyll” is informative.
      “For argyll” is car crash tv, entertainment.
      Says a lot about you if you do take it seriously.
      .

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      Keitho January 15, 2016 1:29 pm Reply
      • Thank you, Keitho. You’ve very successfully proved my point.

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        ClootieDumpling January 15, 2016 1:41 pm Reply
        • Well said Clootie, If HJ added the word SOUL to the end of his username, it would describe him (and the rest of his/her pseudonyms) perfectly.

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          RichieMac January 15, 2016 2:16 pm Reply
          • And if you removed the “r” at the start of your name!!!

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            Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 2:45 pm
        • Clootie, I couldn’t agree more|

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          JimB January 15, 2016 4:50 pm Reply
      • Hot debate. What do you think? Thumb up 8 Thumb down 14

        Richard January 15, 2016 6:34 pm Reply
        • “So here we are now,in containers”
          It’s a yoonion thing!!

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          Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 7:11 pm Reply
    • Dumpling= Supercilious !

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      Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 2:41 pm Reply
    • Regarding NCH, Hugh Jazz Soul, keitho, willie et al – what is it they say about fools? Try to bring people down to their level and beat them with experience? It actually wouldn’t surprise me if one or two of them were – THE SCOTTISH RESISTANCE!

      ‘This is an ANTI SNP BLOG and we’re here to report a crime against Scotland’.

      Open this for a good laugh – and work out who is NCH, and which is Hugh Jazz. Happy Friday!

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/resistance-is-futile#.vukgORRoB

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      JB January 15, 2016 9:44 pm Reply
    • Scotland’s nascent one-party culture of intolerance is on the rise, if the comments on For Argyll are anything to go by.
      Take it to the extreme, and you get ‘unbelievers’reported to the authorities and receiving a death sentence, in the style popular in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and (from some accounts) several ex Soviet Union states.

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      Robert Wakeham January 16, 2016 12:02 am Reply
  • Meanwhile in Argyll Central the Cuttenpaste Queen sits by her computer waiting for the latest installment of syndicated tosh from Unionist High Command. Like buses, they’ll be more Jackinory along tommorow. Night all.

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    willie January 15, 2016 9:36 pm Reply
    • Goodnight from Skandi,Willie
      God bless!

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      Hugh Jazz January 15, 2016 9:39 pm Reply
    • Once again Willie, a brilliant post.

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      Keitho January 15, 2016 10:10 pm Reply
  • This motor-mouth Jackie Baillie seems to be suffering from selective amnesia. The Vale of Leven Hospital had a serious outbreak of the C Diff virus in December 2007, just six months into the first SNP Government.
    This is some of what the enquiry found,
    “The Vale of Leven hospital has been under threat of closure for more than 10 years. Uncertainties over the longer term future of the hospital had led to lack of investment in the upgrading and maintenance of the hospital. In addition the hospital site appeared to be given a lower priority than other sites in the implementation of policies, surveillance systems and staff development.
    The facilities at the Vale of Leven Hospital were inadequate for effective patient isolation and infection control, and there were frequent patient transfers between wards and other hospitals during this period.”
    All of this happened in the years when she was a member of the Scottish Executive. She has been very loud about it all while the SNP have been in power, but if she and her cohorts had done their duty while in Government, and remember this was before the crash, when money flowed like the waters of the Clyde, the resulting tragedy might not have happened.
    There are hospitals at Clydebank and Glasgow that can cover for emergencies and a new hospital in Glasgow a very short journey from the Royal Alexandria.
    She might not be aware that money is scarce due in no small part to Labours disastrous performance while in Government. She should be asking about the reasoning behind the current consolidation instead of trying to make her usual Political Capital out of the problems her own party have left us all with.

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    Murdoch MacKenzie January 15, 2016 11:01 pm Reply
    • So you aren’t an SNP supporter Murdoch?
      You clearly aren’t a supporter of the Labour party. A lot of your posts lean towards the far right but I’m sure you will dispel this notion with some gusto!?
      But if you aren’t a supporter of the SNP or Labour…..

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      John M January 15, 2016 11:17 pm Reply
      • This thread is not about me John, it’s about JB.

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        Murdoch MacKenzie January 16, 2016 12:26 am Reply
  • That’s interesting Murdoch that you think this thread is about Jackie Baillie. The only people who actually made it about Jackie Baillie are our resident ‘Scottish Resistance’ – they are obsessed with her – one mentions of JB and they start frothing at the mouth, poor sods. I know you’re more independent of mind that these trolls, but sometime you do talks just like a well behaved Nationalist troll…

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    JB January 16, 2016 8:17 am Reply
    • Have you not read the Post, it begins,
      “Local MSP, Jackie Baillie,”

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      Murdoch MacKenzie January 16, 2016 8:35 am Reply
      • Okay, so taking your logic Murdoch, the article below is about Humza Yousef then? Yes?

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34447677

        No. It doesn’t,

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        JB January 16, 2016 9:07 am Reply
      • Murdoch, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35325639
        regardless of what spin you want to put on it the Scottish NHS is planning cuts, every single person who needs medical care will experience those cuts, it’s not very long ago that we were being promised that beds would be freed up and care in the community was the answer, promises of state of the art hospitals etc. What have we got?
        http://news.stv.tv/scotland/297992-sturgeon-promises-state-of-the-art-hospitals-in-409m-funding-plan/

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        Richard January 16, 2016 12:10 pm Reply
        • Sorry, Richard and JB, but I do not open any BBC sites as I do not want my mind corrupted.
          I read this week that they arranged for a Blairite shadow minister (total unknown) to resign live on air minutes before PM Questions so that Cameron could throw it up to Corbyn minutes after it happened.
          North Korea is more democratic than this country.

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          Murdoch MacKenzie January 16, 2016 12:26 pm Reply
          • That last sentence casts doubt on your state of mind, MM,

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            Robert Wakeham January 16, 2016 12:39 pm
          • Yes Robert. In North Korea they would get machine gunned. In the UK treason against the people is rewarded by the Honours system, and don’t tell me that the BBC, acting politically to prevent the Labour party from being reformed and moved to the left by the people’s will, is not treasonous. The Parliamentary opposition are just as important as the party in power.

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            Murdoch MacKenzie January 16, 2016 1:47 pm
          • Murdoch, I suggest you move to N Korea you’d get on well with Kim, at least the two of you could agree the whole world is against you and is corrupt.
            You might even get to press the Nuclear Button.

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            Richard January 16, 2016 9:00 pm
          • MM claims that “North Korea is more democratic than this country.” Do you know, despite my “squashing” your wilder conspiracy theories, I didn’t think you were that stupid.

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            Alex McKay January 17, 2016 3:06 pm
          • Maybe you guys should take a break to North Korea. It’s not at all like the BBC/MSM bubble that you all live in has made you believe it is.
            I’m not saying it’s democratic, I’m saying the UK is worse and less open considering the image it tries to present of itself.

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            Murdoch MacKenzie January 17, 2016 3:53 pm
          • Have you been to North Korea yourself Murdoch?

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            John M January 17, 2016 7:35 pm
          • No John, I haven’t been yet, I’ll need to see how close I can get with my air miles, although it’s probably not all that appealing to me. I know Asians who have visited and I’ve read some travel reports and seen videos. They all say it’s very modern and they all seemed to enjoy their stay.
            And Richard, re the Nuclear Button, I’m not sure if it’s not a Hydrogen Bomb, but at least it’s theirs and they don’t need to ask any Yank for the codes and permission before they use it.

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            Murdoch MacKenzie January 17, 2016 9:21 pm
    • JB states “..one mentions of JB and they start frothing at the mouth, poor sods”
      Can I place on the record that Jackie Baillie does not make me froth at the mouth or anywhere else unlike JB unionist troll. No wonder troll JB’s husband ran off to England to work!! Is he now back -ex MP?

      As stated earlier in order to upset the nonsense of FA the truth is different.
      It is a discussion document! I am sure For Argyll would have informed us of this!!
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35325639

      jb unionist troll– go and froth elsewhere!!

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      No Cheese Here January 17, 2016 12:03 am Reply
      • I think my point is proven.

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        JB January 17, 2016 9:13 am Reply
        • JB=mendacity!

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          Hugh Jazz January 17, 2016 10:41 am Reply
  • Cause of cuts= Wastemonster austerity.
    Yeah baby!!

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    Hugh Jazz January 16, 2016 12:26 pm Reply
  • Murdoch, perhaps you can force yourself to open this link,
    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14207322.First_Minister_urged_to_safeguard_Glasgow_hospital/

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    Richard January 16, 2016 9:03 pm Reply
  • having read the above comments which seemed to have been turned into a slanging contest the problem still exists that our hospitals need some TLC. The biggest problem with most of the NHS here and South of the border is the inverted pyramid structure of management. Far to much management and paper chasing by all concerned has a drastic negative affect on the efficiency of how hospitals are run and if as this article indicates savings need to be made then they could do a lot of souls searching and ask if the management structure is A: working and B: do we need it in its present form. A lot of people have indicated that in the past it was Matron who ran hospitals from training, cleanliness to discipline and it would be an ideal way to get back to – maybe there is some credence in this, one thing is certain there are too many ‘overseers’ apparently doing very little and too much focus on ‘senior management. Maybe getting back to doctors and nurses might just help a little, who knows it might save money and give us the service we apparently are about to lose

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    mike January 17, 2016 2:23 pm Reply
  • You’re right Mike about the management pyramid being turned upside down. This is true in most fields in the modern world so I suppose it’s to be expected in the Health Service as well.
    What makes it worse is that people get qualifications that allow them to join the pyramid at the top instead of working their way up as most people used to do. Is it any wonder that the whole structure is always in a state of collapse.
    I remember an old guy (he was a lot younger then than I am today) saying to me once, “We will always have work because we were trained to work”.
    What he meant was that the younger generation were all getting great education, but had never been drilled into working hard and focussing on completing their tasks with quality and timeliness.
    Nurses, like the trades, served an apprenticeship although it was not called that. Everyone came in at the bottom, and learning to work was just as important as the education that was available to all. The Matron had climbed the pyramid and understood what was important because of that. A college graduate will probably, through no fault of her or his own, have missed out on that experience.
    It’s part of the edge that we have lost in many fields over the years.

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    Murdoch MacKenzie January 17, 2016 3:24 pm Reply
  • Mike and Murdoch, you both make many valid points. I have a real issue with how our helath service is run, be it hospitals or GP practises. I observe them everytime I visit, thankfully rarely as a patient myself. On almost every occasion, I observed wastage, gross inefficiencies and what I regard as compelte misuse of resource. I believe the NHS in the UK does a great job, but that is not in any way by design – it does a great job IN SPITE of itself. I could give many examples, but shall spare you – but needless to say, I do not believe that the current government has a clue what to do about improving the NHS in Scotland. THey believe chuckling money at is makes it good, when nothing could be further from the truth.

    The currnt debacle in England over the Junior doctors is quite incredible – I fully support the reforms Hunt proposes and the rationale – I lost someone who was admitted on a Friday evening – and was not given the assesment she needed because the consultant was not in until Monday (this wasn’t an apology, it was just how it was) – after suffering for a full weekend, she died early on the Monday morning before being assessed. I give it an as example of a reform that, if I understand it correctly, is not about money – the Health Sec is on record as saying the Govt will not save any money as a result. This is the type of action we need in Scotland – now. A&E is another area that need a fundamental overhaul, something that only Ruth Davidson seems to have a handle on.

    I believe the SNP government have run out of steam on the NHS (amongst other things) – even if they think they have stats to suggest it’s not in crisis. Success in the governments register is having a 92 year old wait 4 hours just to be assessed – not even in a bed and most likely without any treatment yet. That’s not good enough.

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    JB January 17, 2016 3:49 pm Reply
    • sorry to hear of your loss, If the NHS was run on a 7 day a week principle like some other jobs then we would need to fund it properly and also have enough ‘staff’ of all types to cover that need not a few working all hours under the Sun just to satisfy the requirements. More of the right staff would allow this and no doubt in the end cost less than overtime payments currently do. Rather radical I know but don’t see it being on the agenda any time soon

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      mike January 18, 2016 4:06 pm Reply
  • Has JB got a future as a fiction writer?

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    Keitho January 17, 2016 4:57 pm Reply
    • Anything to add to the debate or is this as much as the Scottish Resistance have to contribute?

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      JB January 17, 2016 6:08 pm Reply
      • I’ll raise JB a contribution.
        Here it is…………Soar Alba.

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        Hugh Jazz January 17, 2016 6:34 pm Reply
        • As insightful as ever, many thanks for that.

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          JB January 17, 2016 7:21 pm Reply
          • A pleasure,and it has been since I was fifteen.

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            Hugh Jazz January 17, 2016 8:01 pm
        • Sir,
          I would like to have been able to permit you the benefit of the doubt, and say that your mis- spelling of “Saor Alba” was a “spot the deliberate mistake, and isn’t it an amusing play on words” sort of thing.
          However, observing the utter lack of elegance in your prose, and the hopeless flaccidity of what you call argument, I must conclude that your knowledge of Gaelic is, to use your own quaint expression, “squat”
          In order that you might improve in this area, can I recommend the excellent and definitive dictionary produced by the late Edward Dwelly, who was, inconveniently, English. That’ll be one for the top of the pyre in the brave new nation of your dreams!
          Anyway, if you can spare a little time from genuflecting in front of your icons of Angela Sturgeon and Kim Jong Salmond (isn’t the likeness remarkable)? have a skim through Dwellys magnum opus, it may help you avoid further embarrassment.(I’m surprised MM hasn’t scolded you for this before.
          Yours, Stiffly

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          HUGH JARDON January 18, 2016 11:11 am Reply
          • I would be interested to understand why it is ‘inconvenient’ to be English, just asking

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            mike January 18, 2016 4:00 pm
  • Interesting post from NCH.
    some of my own research is coming up with similar observations about JB.

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    Keitho January 17, 2016 6:27 pm Reply
  • Sorry to go back off topic again, but I foud this – it seems someone wrote and article about our resident Scottish Resistance.

    Will they take note? I doubt it – which is good for the UK.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14210075.Why_a_hectoring_online_fringe_is_putting_the_achievements_of_the_Yes_movement_at_risk/
    IF I’m allowed to quote Angela Haggerty from The Herald

    The independence movement on social media is descending into bickering between those who still want the debate and those who want to shut it down in favour of soundbites about evil journalists, Unionists, and Saint Nicola Sturgeon. But who are they convincing?

    This phoney social media war is less about winning hearts and minds and more about ego. It’s self-righteous and gleeful when pointing the finger at Unionists – or “yoons” as they’re now referred to – and saying: “I told you so.” It is, perhaps, the worst strategy you could muster, and I will undoubtedly be the latest villain – secretly working for MI5, presumably – on social media this week for questioning it.

    She must read ForArgyll…

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    JB January 17, 2016 10:25 pm Reply
    • This same social media is alive with the news that the SNP are set to win 70 seats.
      This was reported in the same media you have quoted in your post.
      Didn’t you see it JB?
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      Remember SNP 1 and 2.
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      Keitho January 18, 2016 12:33 am Reply
  • Looking at all the sports, it seems most athletes hit their prime 30-34

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