Paris massacres: time for the press to behave responsibly

The actions of political leaders in the West – with the key responsibility firmly in the hands of Tony Blair and George W Bush – laid the foundations for guerrilla conflict against us of a kind previously neither imagined nor witnessed in the civilised world.

We – all of us – are now under threat anywhere we happen to be, from a primitive barbarity to which we are helpless prey.

Our media are not helping,

It is being reported in the press that GCHQ was instrumental in helping the Americans to locate Jihadi John in June.

For the unknown and newly radicalised freelance fanatics who can be anywhere in our midst, this is incendiary information for which the UK – and innocents – will undoubtedly pay.

There is no need for censorship but there is certainly need for some iota of intelligent judgment on the part of the media in matters of this gravity.

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  • Unfortunately the press think they have to report everything and anything, time for sensible reporting and not making up the story for the sake of sensational headlines.

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    gerry November 14, 2015 6:26 pm Reply
  • I think it is pure speculation by the press, very unlikely they have been given the information.

    It has been known for some time that the terrorists are using encryption. It is not surprise that GCHQ, NSA etc are trying to decrypt it especially after spies like Snowden sold information.

    The terrorists will be taking steps to avoid interception anyway which will disrupt their comms.

    Similarly I am sure the terrorists must be aware that there could be foreign agents in their midst, with luck they might kill a few of their own people thinking they are spies.

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    Lundavra November 14, 2015 8:38 pm Reply
    • Snowdon was/is a whistleblower. That’s the opposite of what a spy is. Most of our well known spies were establishment people, some were Government Ministers.

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      Murdoch MacKenzie November 14, 2015 11:06 pm Reply
      • Murdoch, Snowdon is a thief and traitor, not only that he has done untold damage to the west’s intelligence services and put operatives lives at risk.
        There are over 15,000 people in the UK working anti terror/intelligence, their efforts ensure we can walk the streets in safety but one day terrorists will slip through and people will die.
        I think you have got stuck in the 30’s

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        Richard November 15, 2015 11:37 am Reply
        • Richard, When countries governments are traitorous, as in working for foreign and corporate agendas against their own people, the whistleblower is then the noblest of citizens.

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          Murdoch MacKenzie November 15, 2015 1:37 pm Reply
  • I’m no lover of Blair or Bush but the constant false and misleading accusations of being solely to blame for the current attacks really doesn’t help.

    Islamic states/countries were in religious turmoil well before ‘the west’ became involved and it was almost inevitable a regional conflict would break out. Blair and Bush certainly didn’t help the situation but they certainly didn’t lay the foundations.

    Personally I would of described the 11th September 2001 as a day of a “kind previously neither imagined nor witnessed in the civilised world.” Almost exactly 18 months before the start of the Blair/Bush Iraq war.

    There are no excuses for the type of barbarism exhibited by ISIL and none should be put forward. This is a completely different type of force, unseen by the majority of us in living history.

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    John M November 14, 2015 10:07 pm Reply
    • Isil are just a rag tag and bobtail outfit. The Russians wiped out more of them in three days than the US had killed in all their time before that. They and the Saudies supplied them with weapons and drugs called Captagon that turned them into fearless maniacs. A Saudi prince has been caught with a two ton delivery at Beirut Airport.
      https://www.rt.com/news/319727-saudi-prince-drug-arrest/

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      Murdoch MacKenzie November 14, 2015 11:25 pm Reply
      • It’s not so much the ignorant statements you make, it’s the fact other people appear to agree with you.

        http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2015/11/burning-earth-isis-and-threat-britain

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        John M November 16, 2015 3:23 pm Reply
        • Everybody is out of step except our John. I don’t claim to know the ins and outs of all that happens in the Middle East, but I know who bombed Iraq and murdered millions of Iraqis, who destroyed Libya murdering hundreds of thousands and making millions flee, and who wants to do the same to Syria. I want them to know that it’s not in my name.
          If the IS mad dog has slipped the owner’s leash, although I’m not so sure about that yet, then it has to be hunted down and destroyed. The owner(s) need to be hunted down as well but there is not much chance of anyone doing that as things stand.

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          Murdoch MacKenzie November 16, 2015 7:18 pm Reply
  • Not just time for the media to be responsible but for all of us, especially on social media. Already we see posts on social media about standing up to Islam or using these horrendous events as justification for closing down the borders.

    It isn’t standing up to Islam. It is standing up to terrorism. It isn’t evidence that immigration creates a security risk. Many of the people coming to our country, and other European countries, are doing so to escape cultures of fear. The more we make them feel like the cause of all our ills the more we build hate and intolerance.

    We live in a largely beautiful world but the horror that exists in it is so entrenched that it is becoming impossible to see a way out of it without hundreds and hundreds of thousands of innocent people dying. Very sad times, not just in Paris but across many many countries blighted.

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    Integrity? November 14, 2015 10:42 pm Reply
    • There’s a long tradition of trouble when religion morphs into rabies, and I don’t know how to ensure that ‘faith’ can be restrained from sliding into intolerance and the promotion of terror.

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      Robert Wakeham November 14, 2015 11:54 pm Reply
      • It is difficult Robert.

        I don’t give a shit how many times people can point towards an incident which is claimed to be done in the name of Islam. For every one of them I can point to thousands who, in their Islamic life, are horrified by these events.

        Religion means nothing to me. It excuses nothing. It justifies nothing but it also doesn’t create evil. Evil is a human ferocity. It might occasionally use religion as a smokescreen but that is all it is.

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        Integrity? November 15, 2015 12:05 am Reply
        • I agree about the majority being horrified, but it’s the minority that are the problem, and where I come from in SW England there was a time when suspected ‘witches’ were put on a tidal rock in the river – survival proved their culpability whereas drowning proved their faith.
          And it’s an uncomfortable fact that within my memory a Pastor (Jack Glass?) threatened a curse on Sunday ferries.
          In both cases there was local support, but whereas the witch hunting was a Europe wide ‘religious’ sport, the more recent enthusiasm for cursing Sunday activities has been of limited – and waning – popularity.
          Islam suffers from being so embedded in some cultures that people can still be sentenced to death for apostasy – and the outer extremities of both branches enjoy widespread appeal, including amongst the young and disaffected around Europe.

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          Robert Wakeham November 15, 2015 1:12 pm Reply
  • Just a thought…

    http://www.nato.int/terrorism/five.htm

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    Ian Sanderson November 15, 2015 10:17 am Reply
    • Ian, I suspect France will use article 4 to start the discussion rapidly leading to article 5, I give it 6 weeks ax before NATO takes action against ISIS.

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      Richard November 15, 2015 2:50 pm Reply
  • Can I suggest that this sums up the situation rather well:-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksh4I4s4CIw

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    Malcolm Kirk November 15, 2015 12:11 pm Reply
  • Now the snp and God are blamed for a lightning strike? Really? All things snp bad. Will the editor try and see a connection between terrorism and the snp?
    Time for For Argyll to behave responsibly.

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    No Cheese Here November 15, 2015 12:16 pm Reply
    • Away back into your kennel.

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      Robert Wakeham November 15, 2015 1:15 pm Reply
      • I was trying to work out what on earth he was on about but gave up.

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        Lundavra November 15, 2015 4:06 pm Reply
        • Lundarva

          Probably because you aren’t very bright? Woof

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          No Cheese Here November 15, 2015 11:30 pm Reply
          • Oh! I wouldn’t be surprised if he/she has got one of these MI6 recruiting ads that CameraOn sent out last night. I wonder if they profile us first or does everybody get one? I don’t think I’ll bother applying, I probably went to the wrong school anyway.

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            Murdoch MacKenzie November 16, 2015 8:18 am
  • One Muslim’s view on the problems,the language is a bit harsh but I agree with the sentiments.
    If the general Muslim population in the UK were heard to express the same thoughts then the problems would be less

    https://www.facebook.com/TheBrizzler/videos/313288765548660/

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    Steve Barlow November 15, 2015 1:54 pm Reply
    • Unfortunate timing to have a ‘Quiz a Muslim’ event in Bedford on Friday where they called for a Muslim state in Britain with Sharia Law.

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      Lundavra November 16, 2015 9:18 am Reply
  • We’ve heard Mr Corbyn’s views on shoot to kill, what is Hollywood’s?

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    Richard November 17, 2015 8:40 am Reply
    • Dick,are you a self proclaimed Warmonger ?
      Before you go down the road of revenge,dig two graves!

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      Hugh Jazz November 17, 2015 8:55 am Reply
      • HJ, it is a serious question and deserves a serious answer.

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        Richard November 17, 2015 11:06 am Reply
    • Hollywood are sending Rambo in.

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      Murdoch MacKenzie November 17, 2015 11:27 am Reply
    • As always there is a big difference between what Corbyn said and what the media, or certain sections of it, are interpreting what he said.

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      Integrity? November 17, 2015 1:04 pm Reply
      • He said these things in interviews that were broadcast so no doubt about what he said.

        All the reports suggest that the Labour party meeting last night did not go well for him, are you suggesting that Labour MPs did not hear what he said? At least they presumably listened to him which is more than he was doing whilst members of his own party were disagreeing with him in the Commons this morning.

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        Lundavra November 17, 2015 2:04 pm Reply

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