Salmond’s relaunch: it’s Independence [very] Lite

The First Minister stepped lightly into a shed in Nigg in Cromarty today to relaunch the failing case for Scottish Independence.

He appears to believe that the best way to sell it is to make it as unindependent as possible.

The spin – in the First Minister’s own words, is that all he wants to do is ‘break the political and economic union, not the social ties’. That’s all right then?

He said that ‘five unions would remain’, naming them, in this order, as:

  • NATO
  • Europe
  • The Union of the Crowns with the Queen still as Head of State
  • Sterling
  • and what he called ‘the social union’ – whatever that is, beyond a warm thought.

The simultaneous appearance of items two and four suggests that Mr Salmond still refuses to admit that the EU would have no choice but to require Scotland to join the eurozone as a condition of membership, whether membership came sooner or later.

During his Nigg gig, Mr Salmond fished out of his pocket all the sweeties he could find to swop for the massive cost of establishing an independent Scotland.

Against the weight of the costs – which he sensitively refrained from mentioning – he conjured our future ability to save our Post Offices and get rid of nuclear weapons.

Well now, that certainly does balance the scales.

Saving our post offices does not get away from the fact that our postal service will cost us significantly more if we lose the smoothing effect of the cheaper-to-serve heavily populated conurbations south of the border. They make possible the current universal service obligation. And if we scrap that obligation we ourselves are compounding the discrimination that  already exists against remote rural communities.

Getting rid of nuclear weapons in the context of hoping to maintain the ‘five unions’ named by the First Minister? Does he really think that the continuing United Kingdom would not insist upon concessions from Scotland in exchange for any and every one of these unions he wants to retain?

At the top of that list of concessions would be Faslane. The UK admits the decommissioning costs would be ‘eye watering’. For physical reasons, there is no viable alternative to Faslane for the UK submarine fleet base.

With NATO first on Mr Salmond’s wish list of the unions he would, at the end of a long day, like to hang on to after all; and with the pressure of NATO’s need to see the UK retain the nuclear deterrent, it would be a very naive person who would believe that Mr Salmond would not make that concession.

He has already chosen to lose lifelong SNP-supporting MSP’s rather than even drop the planned application for NATO membership. If he were to have independence already in his pocket, this concession would certainly be made.

Independent or not, Faslane and the deterrent are going nowhere.

Another sleight of hand in this afternoon’s attempt to calm anxieties was the notion that Mr Salmond could somehow reconcile the retention of the Sterling currency union with his vaunted wish to sever ‘the economic union’.

The Sterling union and effective economic union are inseparable. If we have Sterling, the ‘economic union’ remains in place. We could have only a very limited economic independence.

Think about it.

Why would a country with a stable currency and a recovering economy – with the continuing slomo-failure of the eurozone in the background -  allow a newly independent country to share its currency while managing its own economy within that currency and without constraint, borrowing at will and potentially affecting the credit rating of the currency’s principal?

The SNP has shown disappointingly little awareness of the magnitude of the issues independence would involve – and even less ability to produce any defensible detail on how the country would scale those cliff faces.

This lack of competence is no testimonial to persuade Westminster to give Scotland carte blanche to impact upon its fiscal policy.

The reality of the economic situation of an independent Scotland within a Sterling union is a fiscal straight jacket, necessarily imposed by the Bank of England as our lender of last resort.

This is little more than devolution; and the differences are largely negative.

We would have sole responsibility for all of our own costs and little means to pay them other than by squandering the tax take from the oil industry on our annual spending requirements, just to get by. No one can imagine that we could carry on living like this.

By the time we’d funded our burgeoning social costs and serviced our debt burden by using oil revenues  – what would fuel the investment without which we would have no future? We could not regenerate.

The fact that oil revenues fluctuate widely and beyond the control of government would be likely to see us thrown into unplanned borrowing at intervals not of our dictating and just to cover spending.

Membership of the necessary sterling union would inevitably involve compliance with strict borrowing limits.

Mr Salmond’s simplistic relaunch formula this afternoon boils down to a very simple picture.

We would in fact pay the massive cost of independence for the single ‘reward’ of cutting the ‘political union’ between Scotland and the rest of the UK.

It has not even been adequately explained just what the supreme value of that particular severance would be.

More panjandrums and pomp and ceremony at Holyrood? Independence Lite, anyone?

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59 Responses to Salmond’s relaunch: it’s Independence [very] Lite

  1. The fact that oil revenues fluctuate widely and beyond the control of government would be likely to see us thrown into unplanned borrowing at intervals not of our dictating and just to cover spending.

    Yes that’s us Scots the poorest oil producing country on planet earth. What a wingeing Unionist you have become NEWSIE. Whatever happened to your days when you supported the SDLP ? and a United Ireland without the oil and resources of Scotland

    You have no vision, no confidence in the Scots or Scotland but cling to the failed Westminster model and greedy South East England political system who will abuse the resources of Scotland for their short term game at the expense of our children and children’s children.

    Bye some of us work shifts.

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    • There was an editorial in Warship IFR on the subject. I was trying to find my copy a copy of days ago but it has not turned up, I think it proposed using Devonport (which would be very popular with the submarine crews). It also said that there are also places where the warheads could be stored as an alternative to Coulport.

      The post offices in Scotland and deliveries must be the most expensive part of the network and being subsidised by the rest of the country. This can be seen by the way that other companies often charge extra for delivery to many parts of Scotland.

      I agree that the EU would be very likely to inside on joining the Economic and Monetary Union which is more than just adopting the Euro as many countries have discovered to their cost in the last few years. They might also insist on becoming part of Schengen.

      I see Salmond is talking as if Scotland would be able to keep Sterling and have joint control over it. He must know that this is a lie but continues to claim it is possible.

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  2. The Nigg Gig and the open road to Independence.

    Urban Dictionary: nigged
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigged
    1. nigged 1.) to get screwed over, jipped 2.) to get ripped off 3.) to lose. Oh man, you got nigged!!

    Well put First Minister. Cameron, have yet to show some cooperation or willingness to even discuss NATO,Europe,The Union of the Crowns with the Queen still as Head of State, Sterling and the social union.

    We shall not be nigged!!

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    • …..also reading further “NIGGED OUT =
      a car or peice of property that has African-American qualities. Originated from the word ni**er.” or ” to be robbed” it’s from ni**er rigged, not too relevant or PC in this case??

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    • The UK government is not proposing change. It is up those proposing changes to say how they want to change things, not for others to propose various alternatives to them.

      I thought the Treasury had made many statements about Sterling i.e. that any country can use Sterling if they wish (just as many small states use the US Dollar) but they are not entitled to have joint control over Sterling just as the US government does not give these other small states a seat at the Federal Reserve.

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  3. Come on lets face facts, the SNP are going to say anything in order to persuade the floating vote. Independence light is now devo max with more risk and uncertainty.
    In Dunoon they promised two new vessels if voters back Jim Mather in 2007, 6 years later. Nothing.

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  4. Greedy south east?! It’s pathetic separatist generalisations like this that are getting us into this social want of independence in the first place. It’s called Braveheart syndrome! For gods sake this vote has to be made based on your head not your bloody heart! I hate that all this is being made about pride and ego by that fat Caledonian hitler salmond. The union isn’t just there for prestige and the pride that comes with being British. The union is there because it bloody well works! Alex salmond only got to where he is today from tapping into braveheart syndrome. That’s why he’s got as far as he has using policies with all the substance of dust.

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    • union works for whom?
      and why bring that historically very inaccurate braveheart into things?

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    • Oh Paul such anger from an individual.

      SNP formed before braveheart film which most Scots enjoyed but would not base their voting intentions on so you really do have to grow up. some of us do recognise fact and fiction but it is true Wallace was murdered by King Edward 1 of England.

      I am more concerned about the future of this country and our children’s future.

      Simple really Scots governing Scotland will do a better job than being governed by London whether or not we wish to join in wars or spend our resources on education or health or industry as opposed to nuclear weapons.

      Our choice our decisions WE take responsibility for what happens.

      Are you really trying to say the Osbornes of this world give a damn about Scotland apart from the taxes raised by this country.

      Referring to First MInister Alex Salmond as you do just shows how low unionists like you will stoop and reference to Hitler is nothing short of disgusting considering the number of persons who fought for freedom such as my family members who support Scots independence. Many nationalities fought Hitler collectively. It is not the domain of a few narrow unionists.

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      • H20, writes,

        “I am more concerned about the future of this country and our children’s future.”

        Aye Aye,that’s a double positive.

        Independence must guarantee full and free education for all. And higher taxes on the rich to kick start the new economy after Independence.

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        • I hope you include part-time students in this. I have had to stop studying for an MA because the SNP stopped the ILA £500.

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    • Never seen Braveheart. I’m voting Yes.
      The only times you ever hear it mentioned is when those horrifically afflicted with the cringe, you know, those who feel more British than Scottish use it in an attempt to ridicule anyone proud of our history.
      Oh Paul, any chance you could justify the use of the word ‘Fat’ and ‘Hitler’ when you refer to our First minister of Scotland, maybe highlight the relevance if that’s OK.
      “The union isn’t just there for prestige and the pride that comes with being British”
      While you are digging a deeper hole in your attempt to justify your childish description of Alex Salmond what a bout a few examples of what is prestigious about being British and share with us the pride you had when our British government made the despicable call when not having the backbone to follow France’s stand against the invasion of Iraq, bet you were swathed in the butchers apron when that kicked off?

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      • ‘Never seen Braveheart. I’m voting Yes.
        The only times you ever hear it mentioned is when those horrifically afflicted with the cringe, you know, those who feel more British than Scottish use it in an attempt to ridicule anyone proud of our history.’

        As with that noted film critic Mr A Salmond?

        “There aren’t many films which are truly important, but this is one.”

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  5. Scotland would only adopt euro once we had joined ERM for a few years & even then would only have the obligation to show intent to join eurozone at some point in future which could be indefinitely blocked by another referendum.
    Why keep the useless junk nuclear deterrent that only serves to employ a small number of people (MoD + contractors) & make a few politicians feel more important than they are when it’s never going to be used & is completely useless as far as defence goes … it’s an offensive weapon after all which no right thinking person would choose to launch in anger as everybody loses once 1 live missile hits a target. I would think forcing the nukes out of clyde base would be a convenient excuse for Westminster to finally be rid of the unwelcome menace?

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  6. A small number of people?

    ‘More than 6,500 civilians and Service personnel are employed on the site.’

    Many of those will have families and so will provide indirect employment. Some of the civilians will be local and so not move though it is hard to see what work they will find. Most of the servicemen and many others will move South.

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    • I meant (& never implied otherwise) there are a small number whose employment is linked to the deterrent alone, it’s in the 100′s …. whole site isn’t going to be closed down whatever might happen over next few years & 1000′s will remain employed there whatever happens.

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      • Iain
        You might not be aware but each trident sub has two crews a port and a starboard crew which means approx 600 people. A good number live locally my next door neighbour for one.Each day a large number of contractors enter the base to service these boats. They have a large fleet of tugs police security guards etc. How you can prattle on about a small number of people servicing the fleet although I spoke to a staunch SNP supporter the other day who said the base would not close because the new Astute boat was non nuclear

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        • Plugit needs to know that the new Astute Class Submarines ARE nuclear powered.

          He should also be aware that John Ainslie, Scottish CND coordinator stated publicly on BBC Radio Scotland recently that CND and the SNP want rid of all nuclear armed and nuclear powered submarines from Faslane. Including the other Astute class submarines that have still to be delivered, that would be a total of 17 submarines.

          Bill Kidd, the SNP MSP, who is also an executive member of Scottish CND, refused to discuss that on the Call Kaye programme on BBC Scotland back in October 2012.

          An ECOS Study by Scottish Enterprise a few years back confirmed that at that time, 7,200 direct jobs were dependent on Faslane and Coulport. When we apply the normal 1.25 multiplier linkages impact, it is clear that at that time there were 9,000 jobs dependent on Faslane and Coulport. If we add the 2,000 jobs that are now transferring to Faslane as a result of it becoming the UKs single submarine base and new training facility, along with the standard multiplier, we can see that 11,500 jobs are at risk in Argyll & Bute if the SNP were to get there way and have all nuclear submarines removed from Scotland.

          The SNP have stated that Faslane will become Scotland’s conventional naval base in the unlikely event that Scotland was to vote for separation in 2014. The problem is that Defence experts such as Dr Phillips O’Brien of the Scottish Centre for War Studies at the University of Glasgow have confirmed that such a conventional base would only employ approximately 1,000 people.

          A net loss of over 10,000 jobs if the SNP get their way. This does not include all the ship building jobs on the Clyde that would also be lost in an SNP Scotland.

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          • I said I was speaking to a staunch SNP supporter who thought the Astute boat was non nuclear I was showing how out of touch some of there supporters are and yet this party will if they get there way change all of our lives for the poorer. I agree entirely with your comments about the base and the surrounding area

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          • it’s not just SNP that wants rid of the nuclear stuff from Faslane/Coulport … its the huge majority of the whole Scottish Parliament & most people in Scotland too … & Dr Phillips O’Brien hasn’t the slightest clue how many would be employed there as he doesn’t know what would be deployed/based there!

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        • not on about fleet, and a fleet of sorts would remain employing 1000′s, am concentrating on nasty bit of deterrent which I see as being the trident missiles + warheads … subs are another matter which are conveniently mobile, vanguard’s imo shouldn’t be replaced & with new nuclear powered astute class subs coming into service sub crews could go there & operate out of devonport … there will likely be MoD cuts on way to reduce submarine crews anyway way things are going?
          I have grave concerns about what’s going on over a few hills from me & what disturbing/alarming things are being hidden by official secrets act cloaking incidents that, if public would make continuing the nuclear elements of base impossible … maybe someone will leak info some day?

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          • there you go again another statement
            A fleet of sorts would remain employing 1000,s. What fleet are we talking about once we get rid of all the nuclear subs what do we have left a few tugs and mine hunters and as for employing 1000′s I suppose some could cut the grass the last time I was in the base it needed some tlc

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  7. Project Fear. ah here we go. Newsnewscotland soldiers now infiltrating FA with this drivel.

    I’m sure when the BT folks start referring to their rather poor and ill informed campaign as ‘Project let’s talk Pish’, they’ll get all upset.

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        • I was just agreeing with your 12:16 comment which read like it was all about the relentlessly negative bitter together … and bitter together invented the ‘project fear’ all on their own without any help from Newsnet Scotland

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  8. “Saving our post offices does not get away from the fact that our postal service will cost us significantly more if we lose the smoothing effect of the cheaper-to-serve heavily populated conurbations south of the border.”

    We’re losing it anyway, thanks to the UK government’s Royal Mail privatisation policy. Who seriously believes that the Universal Service Obligation will survive for long, or have any real meaning in terms of keeping rural delivery costs down, once that goes through?

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  9. Superb article finally exposing Bagpuss for what and who he is….When will the SNP finally answer the most basic of questions? When will the SNP quit trying to sell the idea that Scotland will somehow become unshackled from South East oppression following an Independence vote? What exactly will Scots be able to do, following an Independence vote, that they are unable to engage in today? It is a vision, a view of the future, according to Salmond and not the Scottish people. It is a fight, a pathetic fight based on outdated stereotypes and views. If we based the future on Bagpuss, no one would speak with the Germans and the Yanks would ignore the Japanese. Salmond should spend the weekends with Cummings in New York and the weekdays in The Bahamas with Sir Sean, talking about how great it is to live in Scotland

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  10. Pensions, Defense, Intelligence, Currency, Tax, NATO, EU so on and so forth, not ONE straight answer from the SNP. Oh my, maybe I am scaremongering. It is a disgrace that Salmond and his crew treat the Scottish people with such low regard. EU membership subject to NO opt outs, Eurozone currency inclusion etc. NATO membership subject to Nuclear deterrent remaining in Scotland. Shared currency subject to wonderful UK restraints, understandably so. Pensions and associated bodies subject to UK agreeing to share for at least a decade. What about diplomatic ties, shall I continue? IT MAKES NO SENSE. Salmond could be an extremist without the firepower, it is his fight, his calling. Oh, and by the way, just imagine a man this committed, running the Country.

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  11. Oh; one final comment. I could care less about Actors, Musicians, Poets and the like. Tell me about my Pension; how you are going to look after me and my Family; what happens if I get in trouble in some far flung Country; how you are going to pay to duplicate the many and varied institutions I have come to rely on and already enjoy; why you are going to pay over 700M to duplicate JUST the current tax system I currently enjoy; how we will have the same voice on the world stage dropping from the sixth largest economy on Earth to the 48th; how you are going to Defend & Protect myself and my family going from the 4th largest Defense budget to the 53rd. How we are going to maintain membership in NATO while scraping the Nuclear deterrent. How are we going to maintain EU Membership without taking the Euro onboard and keeping our current and existing opt outs. How we are going to keep sterling while the UK allows us a voice on the BOE Board. Please just answer these very simple questions so that we can further develop our argument for Independence.

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    • “I could care less” thats an American expression. Have you been living out of the country like Mr Connery?

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      • Or it could be a mistype for “I couldn’t care less”, in which case your comment about “living out the country” makes you look foolish.

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  12. Typical response; NOTHING..All you can comment on is a grammatical error..I lived in the US for many years and have recently moved home. All that keeps me from returning is the fact that the SNP will not win; if I felt for a New York minute they would win I would be off. On my return I am shocked at the debate, to put my Country, my Families future in the hands of quite frankly a large bag of wind is amazing. Give me reasonable, detailed and sustainable debate and forecasts and I will listen. Calling the UK Government a Bag o Rogues or whatever Bagpuss said is an embarrasment to the Scottish people. I note today that Bagpuss is saying we will keep the pound, monetary and budgettary influence, a seat on the BOE Board so on and so forth; has he by the way asked the UK government if this is OK as last time I looked this had already been flatly refused? And the IOM, come on this is a joke. Did anyone explain our relationship (being the UK) with the Isle of Man. If the subject matter wasn’t so serious this would be a total and farcical joke. Everyone else return to quoting dead poets and while at it why not talk about Allies Army; wake up and save your Country. You all have a nice day now..

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    • Why would you “be off” if a ‘Yes’ vote is successful Barry?
      Scotland is only worth living in if run by another country?

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  13. Just think about it Barry, you will be stuck here after the Yes vote as a citizen of a rogue state that will not kowtow to your beloved US of A. You will become a victim of our refusal to keep the American weapons that Westminster presently rent and store here in Bonnie Scotland.
    Time you woke up and saved your ass by high tailing it back across the pond while you still can.

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      • I’m posting from the world wide web, that’s all you need to know, but fyi I’m domiciled in Scotland. You ask why I posted, do I need to give a reason to post on here? Are you the moderator?

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        • Our moderators never ask questions of contributors, Murdoch – and you and I met at Glensanda when Aggregates invited contributors to For Argyll’s running stories on the resurrection of the Yeoman Bontrup to the event they hosted at the quarry to celebrate her return.

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        • …sorry Murdoch ,I meant where are you posting from and why are you there, not why are you posting. My point being that you suggested Barry go back to the USA when you too seem to spend a fair bit of time working abroad, is there a difference?

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          • No, it was Barry who said that he would be back in the States if he was not certain that the No camp would win. I was merely warning him of the consequences for him if he gets it wrong (in a tongue in cheek way).

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  14. If anything was going to put people off the independence debate more than petulant politicians it was school play ground bickering. Bagpuss, cybernats, bitter together etc etc. I know a lot if people despair at the quality of our politicians but something like the independence debate just emphasises how representative of some supporters they can be. If people aren’t bored of it yet they surely will be in a year and what a failing that is by both sides of the debate.

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    • Absolutely.
      Second only to the accession of Tony Blair – whose hollowness was obvious a little quicker – this has been the biggest let down of all our lifetimes.
      Whatever we might have decided, whatever decision we wished to see, the process of getting there could and should have been so very different.

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      • It isn’t just the process but also the fact it has unearthed some of the worst characteristics in people. Some of the vitriol thrown by people online (in both directions I must add) simply for having a different opinion about what is best for Scotland is quite embarassing. That said I accept an argument that the process, and some of the ‘official’ personalities involved, has encouraged this as many have been far from professional or credible.

        The bottom line is neither opinion is right as nobody actually knows if Scotland will be better or worse off if independent – by all means have an opinion on it and argue it to your hearts content (proper debate is what we need)but personal abuse for having an opinion which may or may not be right is somewhat pathetic.

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  15. The primary argument for independence is not that it will make us richer, which it might or might not do, but that we will be in a position to take responsibility for our own affairs. We might, on the other hand, be better together, but together in what, and under which kind of regime. The together case would be stronger if its proponents admitted some of the serious faults in the status-quo … a lop-sided economy and over-centralisation, to name two. And it doesn’t follow that a Yes vote means the perpetuation of an SNP Scottish Government. Labour, if they could get their act together, would be just as likely to take an Holyrood in their turn. Alex Salmond skates gaily over a lot of missing detail and no doubt hard-fought negotiations, but
    nevertheless independence would be workable if we determine to make it so.
    Meanwhile a cessation of name-calling, on all sides, would improve the debate.

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  16. Arthur Blue talks about over-centralisation. He is obviously not aware of the centralisation that has taken place over the past few years under this SNP Scottish Government. Nothing now happens in Scotland without Edinburgh saying ok first. Our Councils have been stripped of all power. Fat smirking Eckie Salmond controls everything. As we have seen in Argyll & Bute, the SNP Edinburgh party do not even let local councillors take decisions without Edinburgh giving it the OK first.

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    • Do you think it is acceptable to refer to people as ‘fat’?
      Any other derogatory observations you care to share with us? What about “gay grinning Michael Portillo”? Maybe “Blind eye swivelling Blunkett”?
      What is wrong with you Neanderthals?
      Like Alex Salmond or loathe him, his politics are why people voted or did not vote him and his party.
      It’s OK to refer to someone as fat because he is a high profile politician, someone you are highly unlikely to come face to face with to answer to your verbal abuse yet would you be as comfortable posting a comment on here about a neighbour’s, colleague’s, or fellow commenter’s weight on here? Would you be comfortable calling someone fat to their face?
      Children are content to do this.
      Btw I have no weight issues just issues with immature idiots posting on what I suspect is predominantly an adult visiting news site

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      • Maybe Lagganbuie’s a skeleton, the sort that raises the grave slab on a still night and crawls out in search of an unsuspecting blog. Or maybe you’re just a wee bit over-sensitive to criticism of our dear leader.

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        • Sensitive? Me? Not in the slightest Robert. It is a pathetic comment to include in ones post about anyone although not all together surprising given our fatuation with veneers, looks/appearance over substance, spin, fashion etc.

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    • Where do the Tories take the lead from Ms Lamont? Lib dems?

      As for Argyll and Bute over the past 10 years the independents have hardly been successful be it the sale of public assets, spendinding millions on a rich mans airport etc.
      Just sad that certain incumbents from the snp ( hopefully to be removed from the party) also try to close a good care home.

      Lagganbuie don’t get personal about a persons looks girth etc after all beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

      Now if you don’t mind need to return to work even at this ungodly hour and you will be getting your much needed beauty sleep.Hibernation for 3 months should do it!

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