Crazy, if my pointing out as I did …

Comment posted Senior officers failed to process Cowal Games grant extension by Simon.

Crazy, if my pointing out as I did that the ‘update’ effectively rubbishes all the trash that Nesie wrote in the original article can be equated to stirring – then I’m delighted to say I’m guilty as charged. :)

Havr a nice day. Have plenty champers – if not in celebration then at least to drown sorrows. Go easy on cartwheels after champers ;)

Simon also commented

  • As I said in another post Newsie – when you are wrong you never apologise you just re-write, or invent ‘new facts’, or introduce more red-herrings, or squirm out some new excuse just to try to justify your biased, squalid little piece.

    Thanks for illustrating my claim so perfectly. :)

    Have a nice day.

  • Nobody else commenting on Newsie’s climbdown ?? :)

    Crazy????

  • Doncha just luv the update?????

    Seriously, does this ‘update’ not effectively undermines all the invented trash spouted in the original article?
    After all the facts now appear to be after the decsion was taken by the Cowal Gathering asked for soem revisions, these revisions went back and forth until eventually agreed by all and the document signed. The Cowal Gathering are happy with the process and the process, in Newsie’s words, “has not prejudiced the position of the Games”.

    This is either a mistake (and therefore an apology should be issued), or yet another of Newsie’s ‘boorish-and-petty-we-so-wish-this-story-about-one-of-our-seniot-hate-figures-were-true-because-we-and-some-of-the-more-easily-led-on-here-so-desperately-want-it-to-be-true-pieces’.
    And “It has emerged” is so obviously the new “We hear”.

    Journalist? Pffft.

Recent comments by Simon

  • Castle Toward community ownership bid issues pursued
    I don’t know about anyone else but if I was asking for a one million pound reduction on an independent valuation price I think I might be trying to get alongside the sellers and understand their problems and their real difficulties rather than trying to publicly embarrass them with allegations.

    As I’ve said elsewhere this ‘attack dog’ policy is misguided, badly advised and surely can only be counter-productive. A project with significant potential might just wither on the vine because the increasingly politicised and polarised handling of this matter. I’ve also said previously that this decision is not an easy ask (Dick Walsh refers obliquely to just some of the difficulties)and that this group would be far better trying to understand and help resolve those problems instead of naively trying to publicly pressurise and embarrass individual councillors.

    On a very human level I must confess that if I was a councillor on the receiving end of manufactured emails and personal attacks I would be disinclined to give the group responsible my support.

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    In the event the council did sell the property at £1 million below valuation what would happen if(despite all the cosy assurances and claims that ‘it makes sound economic sense’) the project fails? What happens then? What happens to the property? Does it revert to the Council? Or, is it sold at a knockdown price to pay off debts?
  • Castle Toward: Councillor Breslin asks straight questions of Council Leader Walsh
    Aral. Are these jobs guaranteed? What if the project fails – does the property come back to us the council taxpayer? Can the council even give away a property valued at £1.75 million for £750k? What other project anywhere in Argyll has received this level of subsidy?

    I’m not being anti the local group but there are some serious questions here that need answered. And indulging in childish stunts or making personal attacks does NOTHING to advance their cause – neither does suggesting that I’m employed by ABC – I’m not.

    I do however have genuine concerns about this project and as a council tax-payer being asked to subsidise this group to the tune of £1 million I would ask – would everyone who backs them agree to underwrite the losses in the event the project fails?

    Would you Aral?

    I’ve already said I’m not involved with the council – are you involved directly/indirectly with the project Aral?

    I’m a neutral observer in this – are you?

  • Castle Toward: Councillor Breslin asks straight questions of Council Leader Walsh
    I posted this on another article and feel it is still relevant.

    ‘If ownership rather than lease is so important for their business plan then should they (the local group) not be concentrating their efforts on raising the money to pay the valuation determined by the District Valuer? Or appealing the valuation?

    That’s would seem to be a more constructive route than pushing this cheap gimmick of an ‘advent calendar’. A gimmick that does absolutely nothing to promote their case and quite obviously is nothing more than a blunt attempt to pressurise councillors.

    I don’t know who advised them to take this approach but it seems to be spectacularly inept and this orchestrated gimmick might yet prove to be counter-productive. Of course, the fact that it is being promoted by Newsie of this blog will of course do absolutely nothing to help their case

    If this group are serious about their project then surely they require to treat councillors equally seriously? They need to understand their position. They need to understand that a) even if the group had a cast-iron case this request of theirs is not easy to agree to and b) regardless of what it takes, they would be far better using their time to develop a more effective working relationship with the council and councillors rather than promoting such a childish stunt.

    Granting a group a discount of a £1 million is not a trivial matter and they are being silly beyond belief if they think otherwise’.

    I would only add that I’m also a Council tax payer, that is one of those who are paying the £20,000 per month to keep Toward Castle (valued at £1.75 million)secure. I am appalled at the attempts of some to reduce, what is a very difficult decision, to a personal attack on individual councillors within the Council.

    It seems that this issue has been engineered to become a political ‘hot potato’.

    Who benefits from that?? The local group????

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    You are talking nonsense Jamie.

    I quoted “According to the Institute of Fiscal studies the impact of Osbourne’s Autumn statement is that we’ve had £35 billion of cuts with a further £55 billion of cuts yet to come”.

    You’re suggesting it’s all the SNP’s fault with their ‘vanity projects’.

    Really???

    £55 billion pounds of SNP vanity projects??

    Really?

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11 Responses to Crazy, if my pointing out as I did …

  1. Dereliction of Duty perhaps? Is that in his contract?

    I mean if this is just a simple mistake, it would be easy enough to just come out and own it. “Me so sorry, my bad” etc etc

    …. ah but we are talking about Cleland Sneddon here. A man who even when repeatedly confronted with the truth during the school closures debacle, still could not admit to getting a single thing wrong.

    Hmmmm wonder if he has a new calculator yet? :grin:

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  2. Doncha just luv the update?????

    Seriously, does this ‘update’ not effectively undermines all the invented trash spouted in the original article?
    After all the facts now appear to be after the decsion was taken by the Cowal Gathering asked for soem revisions, these revisions went back and forth until eventually agreed by all and the document signed. The Cowal Gathering are happy with the process and the process, in Newsie’s words, “has not prejudiced the position of the Games”.

    This is either a mistake (and therefore an apology should be issued), or yet another of Newsie’s ‘boorish-and-petty-we-so-wish-this-story-about-one-of-our-seniot-hate-figures-were-true-because-we-and-some-of-the-more-easily-led-on-here-so-desperately-want-it-to-be-true-pieces’.
    And “It has emerged” is so obviously the new “We hear”.

    Journalist? Pffft.

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  3. The update appears to imply that the original article was completely inaccurate in which case it would seem to me that it should also be accompanied by apology to the people whose integrity was questioned in the article.

    Very poor journalism that an article should be so “wrong” – should check facts before writing.

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  4. Sorry to disappoint the as yet illiterate inhabitant of the kindergarten here – but this is no climbdown.
    It is the reporting of accurate detail of the length of time it took for senior officers to act upon the decisions of the then Executive Committee – on a matter which determines the ability of a major event to plan and manage its finances.
    The decision was taken at the end of September 2011. It was four months before any discussions began with the Cowal Gathering.
    There was very little to be done – a few removals form the text of the existing SLA. How long does that take?
    With the action already late and obviously dilatory, it ws n ot completed by the time Councillor Dance moved her motion on ‘discrimination against Helensburgh and Lomond’ for the council meeting on 28th June. With the potential of this motion to derail the Service Level Agreement between the council and the Cowal Games, the Agreement could not then be signed until the outcome of the motion was known.
    The lack of efficiency, never mind urgency, in senior officers carrying out the executive functions they are paid to do says little about their professionalism, their methodology and their commitment to their work.
    It is also careless or ignorant of the business realities affecting an event like the Cowal Gathering. Mid to longer term financial planning is an imperative in today’s world – impossible when such a business cannot demonstrate the certainty of key support until so late a stage.
    We reported honestly that the Cowal Gathering was content with the way things had panned out – because it was just that we did so.
    This does not mean that the organisation was right to be content – but they are not in a position to be critical in the sort of public sector culture in Argyll and Bute that remains to be enlightened.

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  5. As I said in another post Newsie – when you are wrong you never apologise you just re-write, or invent ‘new facts’, or introduce more red-herrings, or squirm out some new excuse just to try to justify your biased, squalid little piece.

    Thanks for illustrating my claim so perfectly. :)

    Have a nice day.

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  6. Ok, reading the update and comments, must admit to being a bit confused (only one coffee in me this morning and really struggling). The whole thing just leaves me with more questions.

    It appears it took a helluva long time for this to be sorted out and payment made. Wonder why? And James Robb is always spot on with finances, wonder what his take is on all this?

    I also wonder who is in/who contacted the Games Committee and who issued the statement that they were happy and if all the committee feel this way.

    I love a good bit of digging, just as Simon loves a good bit of stirring ;)

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  7. Crazy, if my pointing out as I did that the ‘update’ effectively rubbishes all the trash that Nesie wrote in the original article can be equated to stirring – then I’m delighted to say I’m guilty as charged. :)

    Havr a nice day. Have plenty champers – if not in celebration then at least to drown sorrows. Go easy on cartwheels after champers ;)

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