Newsie, so’Political mischief-making’ is it?? How then would you …

Comment posted No substance to political mischief making on Helensburgh dancers and the Cowal Games by Simon.

Newsie, so’Political mischief-making’ is it??

How then would you describe three of your very own recent articles ?? Viz;

‘Council now restricts reasons why agenda item minutes are restricted’

‘Looks like a council reshuffle’

‘Senior officers failed to process Cowal Games grant extension’

Political mishief-making? – Pot,kettle, black.

Have a nice day :) :) :)

Recent comments by Simon

  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    Graeme, so that we are all clear on what you are proposing ‘The council would buy in the services it required from public service bureaux’ this is the further privatisation of council services is it not?
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    I don’t know about anyone else but if I was asking for a one million pound reduction on an independent valuation price I think I might be trying to get alongside the sellers and understand their problems and their real difficulties rather than trying to publicly embarrass them with allegations.

    As I’ve said elsewhere this ‘attack dog’ policy is misguided, badly advised and surely can only be counter-productive. A project with significant potential might just wither on the vine because the increasingly politicised and polarised handling of this matter. I’ve also said previously that this decision is not an easy ask (Dick Walsh refers obliquely to just some of the difficulties)and that this group would be far better trying to understand and help resolve those problems instead of naively trying to publicly pressurise and embarrass individual councillors.

    On a very human level I must confess that if I was a councillor on the receiving end of manufactured emails and personal attacks I would be disinclined to give the group responsible my support.

  • An unexpected pairing to email in Day 8′s Save Castle Toward Advent Calendar
    In the event the council did sell the property at £1 million below valuation what would happen if(despite all the cosy assurances and claims that ‘it makes sound economic sense’) the project fails? What happens then? What happens to the property? Does it revert to the Council? Or, is it sold at a knockdown price to pay off debts?
  • Castle Toward: Councillor Breslin asks straight questions of Council Leader Walsh
    Aral. Are these jobs guaranteed? What if the project fails – does the property come back to us the council taxpayer? Can the council even give away a property valued at £1.75 million for £750k? What other project anywhere in Argyll has received this level of subsidy?

    I’m not being anti the local group but there are some serious questions here that need answered. And indulging in childish stunts or making personal attacks does NOTHING to advance their cause – neither does suggesting that I’m employed by ABC – I’m not.

    I do however have genuine concerns about this project and as a council tax-payer being asked to subsidise this group to the tune of £1 million I would ask – would everyone who backs them agree to underwrite the losses in the event the project fails?

    Would you Aral?

    I’ve already said I’m not involved with the council – are you involved directly/indirectly with the project Aral?

    I’m a neutral observer in this – are you?

  • Castle Toward: Councillor Breslin asks straight questions of Council Leader Walsh
    I posted this on another article and feel it is still relevant.

    ‘If ownership rather than lease is so important for their business plan then should they (the local group) not be concentrating their efforts on raising the money to pay the valuation determined by the District Valuer? Or appealing the valuation?

    That’s would seem to be a more constructive route than pushing this cheap gimmick of an ‘advent calendar’. A gimmick that does absolutely nothing to promote their case and quite obviously is nothing more than a blunt attempt to pressurise councillors.

    I don’t know who advised them to take this approach but it seems to be spectacularly inept and this orchestrated gimmick might yet prove to be counter-productive. Of course, the fact that it is being promoted by Newsie of this blog will of course do absolutely nothing to help their case

    If this group are serious about their project then surely they require to treat councillors equally seriously? They need to understand their position. They need to understand that a) even if the group had a cast-iron case this request of theirs is not easy to agree to and b) regardless of what it takes, they would be far better using their time to develop a more effective working relationship with the council and councillors rather than promoting such a childish stunt.

    Granting a group a discount of a £1 million is not a trivial matter and they are being silly beyond belief if they think otherwise’.

    I would only add that I’m also a Council tax payer, that is one of those who are paying the £20,000 per month to keep Toward Castle (valued at £1.75 million)secure. I am appalled at the attempts of some to reduce, what is a very difficult decision, to a personal attack on individual councillors within the Council.

    It seems that this issue has been engineered to become a political ‘hot potato’.

    Who benefits from that?? The local group????

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11 Responses to Newsie, so’Political mischief-making’ is it?? How then would you …

  1. Even by any loose standard what she has done is disgraceful, spiteful and petty. Actually these are not the words I would use, I would use stronger however I want this comment to be published.

    A vote of no confidence comes to mind. Perhaps the dunoon and cowal councillors could sort this out.

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    • Not being a Helensburgh resident, never having met this councillor, and watching the unfolding story of the interaction of local politics with local property deals and planning abuses I really wonder how Councillor Dance commanded enough support to achieve re-election.

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    • Go back to the local election candidate lists and have a look at the number of candidates versus number of seats available, voting choice has little to do with it.

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    • Helensburgh voters are not thick, I blame the local paper for spouting Dances and Margaret MacInnes’s nonsence and deceiving all the good people of Helensburgh. Finally people can now see what they are really all about.this article should be spread to theHelensburgh people so they can get the truth. Looking forward to Cowal as always!

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  2. Councillor Dance is a vey close friend and business associate of Mrs MacInnes who runs the very profitable Helensburgh dancing school. Rottenburgh but it seems to be changing at last as Dance and conspirators being exposed. Dance was supported in her stunt by the other members of the coven – Councillors Morton and Morton Junior and the Tories.
    A local worthy described The Coven of Morton, Morton Junior and Dance as – Councillor Me, Councillor MiniMe and Councillor MeMeMe.

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  3. Newsie, so’Political mischief-making’ is it??

    How then would you describe three of your very own recent articles ?? Viz;

    ‘Council now restricts reasons why agenda item minutes are restricted’

    ‘Looks like a council reshuffle’

    ‘Senior officers failed to process Cowal Games grant extension’

    Political mishief-making? – Pot,kettle, black.

    Have a nice day :) :) :)

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  4. I would have thought that Councillor Dance had more important things to do than worry about highland dancers from Helensburgh and Lomond not dancing at the Cowal Games.
    She should be asking the Chief Executive of Argyll & Bute Council why residents in Helensburgh & Lomond only receive a fortnightly uplift of the general waste whereas residents of Lochgilphead, Oban, Dunoon and Campbeltown still have their general waste bins emptied weekly.
    Council taxpayers (Band D equivalent) in Argyll & Bute all pay the same rate of council tax and should therefore ALL receive the same level of service.

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