I found the Skye bridge charges at the …

Comment posted McGrigor puts down parliamentary questions on A83 by ferryman.

I found the Skye bridge charges at the worst they seemed to be £5.70 (no charge for passengers) . Even allowing for inflation and the passage of time to pay £27 to get across the Firth of Clyde seems a tad steep, don’t you agree?

So if it was unacceptable to pay to cross a bridge open 24×7 why is it acceptable for us to have to pay a private company to cross the Firth of Clyde?

ferryman also commented

• I have been corrected it should be £21-£27 for a family of 4 one way in a car.
• Damn you are right I missed the £11.40 for the car!
  So if you just turn up, as people trying to bypass the A83 are now doing, they get stung for roughly £21-£27 (depending on child adult ratio) one way have I got it right now?

  What were the charges on the Skye Bridge?

• You need return of a second vehicle ferry service or control of profits on the Cowal Ferries, and a ferry service to Campbeltown would also be a good idea.

  Waterways are natural motorways. We should stop looking at them as obstacles and invest sensibly in them with proper seaworthy ships.

• I disagree, the question raise no pressure. This problem has been known about for a long time. To raise pressure you have to ask what studies were done into the effects of closure on traffic flows, what alternatives (e.g ferries to Campbeltown) were considered and so on.
  The answer will be nothing, in fact they cut back by removing a Firth of Clyde vehicle crossing. The remaining crossing is choc-a-bloc and once people get on they will be surprised at having to pay between £12-£16 single for a car of 4 to a private company on a short crossing. What were the tolls on the Skye bridge?
  Transport Scotland were not doing their job and the Government were not ensuring they were doing their job.
  Those sorts of questions will raise pressure.

Recent comments by ferryman

• Reminder: Argyll Ferries on ‘refit’ service schedule
  The scottish Government has failed to deliver on the transferable ferry tickets it was going to setup. The bus scheme is a bodge that adds anything upto two hours to travel time.

  Any news on what they are going to do for Cowal Games or are they just going to try another gamble on the weather.

• New Campbeltown ferry pilot – a whale beached before it starts
  They did not refuse to give car/ferry passenger service to Dunoon – they took it away!

  They went back on a maniefesto committment to provide new vehicle ferries and then to cap it all they made an incompetent botch by putting in a totally and uttery unreliable passenger only service.

• Inexplicable blame game from MSP on lack of cross-ticketing on Dunoon ferries
  “no carrier could justify running a heavier and thirstier craft than necessary”

  The “than necessary” is the critical point. If you are specifying a commuter service to get people to and from work, hospital college etc. then it is necessary and perfectly possible to specify vessels able to operate reliably on the Clyde.

  What you do not do is accept vessels which regularly and repeatedly fail to run for days at a time.

  Newsroom wrote “physical facts are the physical facts”, they are indeed and the current bathtubs are far too small for reliable operation. In any case the Ali Cat was operating unreliably on the route already so her current performance is no surprise.

• Inexplicable blame game from MSP on lack of cross-ticketing on Dunoon ferries
  I take exception to your statement that “The Argyll Ferries’ passenger boats, being necessarily lighter craft, are more prone to delay and cancellation in a bit of a blow”.

  Transport Scotland should have specified vessels able to provide a reliable service. They did not hence the problem.

  Also the gentleman referred to in the article in the Observer concluded by saying he did not want a lot of energy devoted to cross ticketing etc he wanted it devoted to the getting his town centre ferry service taking him to the trains to work.

  That of course makes sense because even if he could transfer totally reliably to and from Western at no cost at all he would still be late for work.

• Western Ferries: new sailings, inflation rises in fares – and protection for concessions
  “the consensus seemed to be that they would be too expensive to be used as passenger only ferries”

  Exactly. Here you have ferries known to be reliable in the sea conditions on the route, able to operate at a fantastic profit when carrying vehicles but not economic carrying only passengers.

  AF are suspended again today, they were off all day yesterday, because they use bathtubs not remotely suited for the purpose to which they are being put.

  The sensible thing is to use larger ferries on the town centre route and let them carry vehicles. As CalMac demonstrated, before the Government of the day stopped them, putting on more sailings increased revenue and cut subsidy.

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