Comment posted Argylls to be scrapped – along with the best recruiting battalion in the army by newsroom.
The Army website currently says:
‘Joining the Army as a Territorial means that you do all your training and military duties in your spare time.’
We understand that Territorials will have to take one year off out of five to retrain.
This statement also obliterates the impact on employers and the imperative for their active collaboration in the present scheme to place much heavier reliance on the role of a volunteer force in active operations.
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- Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
We appreciate that it is inconvenient for a light to be shone on doings your party would prefer to keep hidden in shady places from those it asks to vote for it.
That is a dishonourable contract.
As the former Alliance of Independent Councillors [which had nothing at all do with Michael Russell ] knows very well, when it was damaging Argyll and Bute by its conduct during the 2010-11 schools closure wars, we were even more vigilant in keeping them under scrutiny and publishing on their manoeuvres.
We had to be even more vigilant because they were skilled at keeping things under wraps – where the SNP has conducted its acts of political genocide en plein air. All anyone has had to do is draw up a chair.
It should be obvious from our stance in recent weeks that we have no ‘vendetta’ against Councillor Dick Walsh, whom we dealt with arguably more harshly than we have done with Mr Russell.
A central function of our role is to contribute to the holding to account of those elected to serve the people. We do our best to fulfil this fairly – and hard. But we have no vendetta against anyone.
In Mr Russell’s case we simply feel he is a hot air balloon who has imploded over Argyll and done a great deal of harm – profoundly so to his own party, which we used to support. The evidence for our view is in the public domain. - Radically new council group changes all the dynamics: party politics dead in Argyll
The fact is that the SNP councillors in the Argyll and Bute for Change group are not ‘SNP councilors’ in council group terms – as rules forbid membership of more than one group.
So the ‘Russell camp’ is definitely no longer in the council’s SNP group, although presumably they will personally vote in elections according to their preferences.
And IF the other 8 SNP members have actually joined [as opposed to supporting [the Argyll, Lomond and the Isles group, there is no formal SNP group at all in Argyll and Bute Council.
If this has become the situation, it means that the SNP as a party has no right of purview over the behaviour of ANY of its originally elected councillors, none of whom would now be SNP councillors.
You have to say this is fun. It's not politics but it is a laugh. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
As given in one of the recent updates above - the missing person is Councillor Strong - from the, as of this morning, Argyll and Bute for Change Group. This would leave that group with 18 members but only 17 present to vote - which would not be enough to carry them to administration IF all other 18 councillors voted together.
This has to be likely but in the current situation the finessing is so arcane that one cannot be certain of anything until it's done. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
The fact is that they were quite prepared to work with the Liberal Democrat and Conservative groups - but were ordered by the the SNP to face expulsion from the party or to leave the administration that was planning just such a coalition.
We do not yet know what the SNP party position is today - although in our 14.15 update above, we have laid out the range of possibilities - but we do know that the 8 SNP Councillors have not resigned from the party. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
Sincere apologies for the temporary error - now corrected - and thank you for the prompt.
We are doing our level best - live - to get changing situations out to people as fast and as best as we can.
When we inevitably have the odd muddle [like cloning Mary Jean Devon], it is corrected very quickly.
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I am repeating myself, but there are Tory grandees spinning madly in their graves at this pathetic excuse of a Tory government’s destruction of the British Army. My understanding is that they want the TA to supplement the Regulars. That will never work. With due respect to the Terriers, they can never be as well trained and prepared as regulars. And worse still, what employer in their right mind will employ, or allow their staff to join, the TA? TA troops will be away from their full time job most of the time to cover the short fall, leaving an employer to cover for the gap that will be created.
As an ex-Royal Marine and a (soon to be) ex-Tory voter I could weep
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“Cost cutting” that’s a laugh! Why do you need high numbers of military when you have new technology and a world army at your finger tips?(UN and NATO come to mind) smoke and mirrors
Is it not like Salmond’s one size fits all national police force (militia){ may like to look at PACE law), yeah Argyll needs the same type of policing as Glasgow or Edinburgh?
But don’t worry people we are in safe hands our masters in Europe have a plan! Welcome to Germany 1942 oops sorry Britain 2012.
Its time our army and police forces pulled their service to the corporation that is the government, tell them to get stuffed I bet the people of this island would support them fully.
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Try telling Anne annis the mother of Simon annis who died in Afghanistan for queen and country but also his battalion he loved the second battalion royal regiment of fusiliers
Disgrace to the memory’s of the fus that died for our battalion
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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1582796_mum-of-fusilier-killed-in-afghanistan-simon-annis-slams-decision-to-axe-battalion
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This Steve Bell cartoon (http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/cartoon/2012/jul/05/steve-bell-defence-cuts) says it all but Rudyard Kipling said it better when he wrote “Tommy”.
“For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country,” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
But Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!”
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The Army website currently says:
‘Joining the Army as a Territorial means that you do all your training and military duties in your spare time.’
We understand that Territorials will have to take one year off out of five to retrain.
This statement also obliterates the impact on employers and the imperative for their active collaboration in the present scheme to place much heavier reliance on the role of a volunteer force in active operations.
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Getting rid of the fusiliers and down sizing the Army means my uncle died for nothing during the last war. We cant down size the Forces they are needed to protect this country. What we need is to get rid of the useless polititions who now nothing about the orderniry people.
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Edie, complaining that your uncle “died for nothing” makes it sound as if this is the first time since the last war that cuts in our armed forces have been implemented. Our forces have been undergoing down sizing ever since the last war. It is nothing new. There were 375,000 in the armed forces in 1962 (50 years ago) Cuts have happened several times since then and none of those, like the current proposals, are anything to do with why your uncle died. He did so, like far too many other brave men, to save a country, not an army.
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