David McCann, You are a true martyr to the …

Comment posted 10 Downing Street to fly Saltire with Union Flag tomorrow for Andy Murray by Ken MacColl.

David McCann,
You are a true martyr to the cause! I do know one person who reads the “Scottish” Daily Mail but you go beyond the call of duty in reading what passes for its journalism elsewhere. I frequently despair at the Scottish media but the item you refer to surely plumbs new depths -even for the Daily Mail.
Sometimes when on holiday in Greece I purchase the Grauniad in the absence of anything better but its almost total lack of informed comment about Scotland is wholly depressing.

Ken MacColl also commented

  • Read the Daily Mail link above and the comments below it from Daily Mail readers.
  • WS is only another of the anonymous UK nationalist critics of Scottish nationalism who hurl insults from below the parapet. Would they be as gratuitously insulting if they were using their own names? You have to wonder who it is that states that he/she “does not care about what some toffs(sic) are at who live 500 miles away” when those are the people, along with their cronies, who are presently pulling the strings of the failing UK economy while they themselves prosper.

    Some MPs attend Westminster to represent their constituents and as an MP and as an MSP Alex Salmond has enjoyed over the years an unprecedented level of support from his own constituents, the people who know him best-check the figures if you doubt me.

  • The First Minister indicated his interest in attending the Gentlemen’s Final at Wimbledon more than a week prior to the event.
    This was merely a corrective to the predictably petty negativity demonstrated above by Messrs Graham and Mackay.
    I wholly agree that Andy Murray was a great credit to his country as was Roger Federer.
  • With his deathless phrase of “73 years of hurt” rhyming as it does with”three lions on my shirt” it would seem that Ed Milibland is already on this particular bandwaggon.
    For the record the First Minister booked his Wimbledon tickets more than a week ago.
  • Best to treat such comment with a contemptuous silence, Robert.

Recent comments by Ken MacColl

  • Alex due another delicious spanking from Nicola
    How sad to see that what started some years ago as an informative and sometimes challenging website has descended to this juvenile level of political commentary.
    Carries a distinct whiff of the Daily Mail.
    Certainly has no connection to the late and great Spike Milligan.

    “For Argyll?” In your dreams!

  • Scotland’s Big Voice and the ‘One Vote’ fight for the Union
    I met a colleague in Oban this morning who advised me that the SNP had won three by elections on Thursday of this week. I knew that those contests were being held but had heard nothing in the morning news bulletins so I asked him where he had the information from.
    “Oh” he replied, ” I have not yet confirmed the news but I knew that as BBC Scotland had not announced the results or even put them on their website they could only be positive for the nationalists.”
    And so it proved, with substantial wins in Buckie, Glenrothes and Armadale.
  • Scotland’s Big Voice and the ‘One Vote’ fight for the Union
    Just for the record, Plugit, Alex is of average height and he has an Honours degree in History.
    Apart from that I imagine the rest of your comment is accurate.
  • Scotland’s Big Voice and the ‘One Vote’ fight for the Union
    Never got to Vienna, Graeme, although I get the impression that there is a capital much closer to us that still carries delusions of empirical superiority exemplified by the idea that we are better together but we should not get notions above our station.
  • Scotland’s Big Voice and the ‘One Vote’ fight for the Union
    This odd “wheel of (mis) Fortune” appeared first in the columns of the March Scots Independent late in February but attracted little attention at the time from our Unionist Press although it was also published in The National. News seems to come late to some parts of Argyll!

    The wheel and its recommendations come from ScotLab activist Robert MacNeil from Tranent in East Lothian, billed as an office bearer in his local branch and of East Lothian CA and advisor to Scottish Labour. His particular reading suggests that in Argyll & Bute the most effective challenger to the SNP was the Tory candidate and you can deduce some of his other assessments from their placement on the wheel. Both Alan Reid and Mary Galraith’s chances were dismissed out of hand! The predictions were quickly rubbished by his own party colleagues and indeed Mr MacNeil’s standing within his party was also denied.

    Can it be that an element of panic is emerging?

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42 Responses to David McCann, You are a true martyr to the …

  1. Like to say good luck to Andy. Not a tennis fan, but hope he finally wins it.

    Let’s just see how it pans out though… he’ll be British if he wins and Scottish if he loses ;)

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  2. Well done Andy and loads of luck for tomorrow. (and well done Ivan Lendl also – your contribution has been significant)

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  3. With his deathless phrase of “73 years of hurt” rhyming as it does with”three lions on my shirt” it would seem that Ed Milibland is already on this particular bandwaggon.
    For the record the First Minister booked his Wimbledon tickets more than a week ago.

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    • “For the record the First Minister booked his Wimbledon tickets more than a week ago.”

      Ermmm….For the record you don’t book tickets for The Royal Box, you are invited.

      Why do the cybernats try to spin even the smallest thing to try to put Salmond in a better light ? Its so obvious that it becomes counter-productive.

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      • The First Minister indicated his interest in attending the Gentlemen’s Final at Wimbledon more than a week prior to the event.
        This was merely a corrective to the predictably petty negativity demonstrated above by Messrs Graham and Mackay.
        I wholly agree that Andy Murray was a great credit to his country as was Roger Federer.

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        • Didn’t know the FM consulted and informed Ken on his every move!
          More likely he indicated his interest when Nadal went out and Andy had a better chance of reaching the final.
          Other people having an opinion is not “petty negativity” it is only a opinion.

          Yes, Andy Murray was a credit to Great Britain, Scotland and his home town of Dunblane, but what is totally unnecessary is cybernat trolls trying to claim part of him as there own.

          And before you say where did we say that? you know what I mean!

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        • Is this the first ever admission of spin by a cybernat ?

          5.01 pm: “For the record the First Minister booked his Wimbledon tickets more than a week ago.”

          10.59 pm: “The First Minister indicated his interest in attending the Gentlemen’s Final at Wimbledon more than a week prior to the event.”

          Once more, though, and for the record:

          Admission to The Royal Box where Mr and Mrs Salmond sat is by invitation from The All England Tennis Club.

          Mr Salmond would have received his invitation only after Murray won the semi, so probably sometime on Saturday morning.

          As such he was attending in his capacity of First Minister of the home country of one of the finalists, not as a private individual.

          Thus his travel, accomodation and (probably not inconsiderable) food and drink bills will have been met by the Scottish taxpayer.

          If, as in the scenario of the original cybernat spin, he had “booked his Wimbledon tickets”, he would have been attending as a private citizen and we would not have picked up his tab.

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  4. Great to see sport rise above petty politics this afternoon. Andy Murray is crdeit to himself his family, coaches and his country. Union Jacks and Saltires flying together in unison.

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    • Long may sport rise over petty politics, but the temptation to hijack it seems to be irresistible to an awful lot of politicians – and others; I wonder if the Jolly Rodger is flying over any Swiss banks tonight?

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  5. So David Cameron and Boris Johnston attending the final and seated in the Royal Box is OK and not politicking, but when the First Minister of Scotland does, the usual suspects on here proclaim it is.
    You just can’t win. If he hadn’t attended he would have been criticised for staying away from the final because it was ‘British’.
    Try reading this poisonous bit of journalism, from the English edition of the Daily Mail (strange it didn’t find its way in to the Scottish edition!)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2170898/Wimbledon-2012-Why-English-support-Andy-Murray-been.html

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    • David McCann,
      You are a true martyr to the cause! I do know one person who reads the “Scottish” Daily Mail but you go beyond the call of duty in reading what passes for its journalism elsewhere. I frequently despair at the Scottish media but the item you refer to surely plumbs new depths -even for the Daily Mail.
      Sometimes when on holiday in Greece I purchase the Grauniad in the absence of anything better but its almost total lack of informed comment about Scotland is wholly depressing.

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    • Clutching at straws with this whine:

      “So David Cameron and Boris Johnston attending the final and seated in the Royal Box is OK and not politicking, but when the First Minister of Scotland does, the usual suspects on here proclaim it is.”

      DC and BJ regularly attend The All England Tennis Club, the Dear Leader broke his duck for the Murray bandwagon. Which of the three were politicking (doh!)and on a juicy freebie….surely not The Fat Controller again ? who BTW, still has not explained why he was claiming the Westminster daily subsistence during his tenure as an MP when he was NOT in attendance.

      Hmmm. Thanks for your link. Seems The Daily Maily don’t think much of Mr Salmond either:

      “not the least enjoyable aspect of Sunday’s final was to see the usual smug smile wiped off Alex Salmond’s fat features”
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2170898/Wimbledon-2012-Why-English-support-Andy-Murray-been.html

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      • In the name of the wee man! You’re not seriously trying to ‘prove’ something by quoting the Daily Mail?
        I despair, I really do.

        “Shock horror news, the Daily Mail (even the ‘Scottish’ version) hates Alex Salmond! Read all about it!”

        No matter what your politics, anyone with half a brain ought to be able to recognise what goes on there.

        I have seldom seen such unpleasant bile on FA and would rather not acknowledge ‘Wendy’ as a ‘fellow poster’, thanks.

        David McCann, below at 1.14pm – spot on, you have it in a nutshell.

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        • “In the name of the wee man! You’re not seriously trying to ‘prove’ something by quoting the Daily Mail?
          I despair, I really do.
          “Shock horror news, the Daily Mail (even the ‘Scottish’ version) hates Alex Salmond! Read all about it!””

          Oh dear Alison; I apologise if you are not capable of recognising irony.

          The Daily Mail link was originally posted on here by David McCann !

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  6. WS.
    Who is clutching at straws now? DC and BJ both LIVE in London. AS lives 600 miles away, so dropping in for the odd game at Wimbledon is a rare occurrence, the last time being last year’s final when Djokovic beat Nadal, (so much for your wee jibe about him breaking his duck!)
    BTW. AS was completely entitled to claim subsistence like every other MP, as he was in London on constituency business.
    David Cameron, the millionaire Tory PM on the other hand, (along with many other Unionist MPs, some of whom landed in gaol, where they belong), used every expense trick in the book, when he took out a £350,000 mortgage on his home in Oxfordshire.
    By declaring it as a second home he was able to claim around £20,000 A YEAR from the taxpayer towards the cost of the mortgage. Now that’s what I call a juicy freebie!

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    • Bizarre…”AS was completely entitled to claim subsistence like every other MP, as he was in London on constituency business.”….his constituency is 600 miles north of Westminster !

      You seem to be justifying Mr Salmond’s snout in the trough behaviour by saying that because certain Tories were up to it then its okay for him to be at it.

      I couldn’t care a flying monkey what some toffs are at some 500 miles away.

      I do care about the credibility and probity of a person who is trying to radically shape the future of my country.

      Admit it…..Mr Salmond was at it just as much as the rest of the corrupt bunch.

      A reminder:

      http://www.scotsman.com/news/expenses-row-engulfs-salmond-1-1352579

      http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/03/27/alex-salmond-claimed-116k-expenses-for-just-six-westminster-visits-86908-20363907/

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5299733/Alex-Salmond-claimed-800-for-food-on-MPs-expenses-during-recess.html

      Cybernats desperately try to portrait AS as some kind of a Saint. The rest of us know the truth is very different and do two things.

      1. Laugh at them.
      2. Educate the “don’t knows” about the real Mr Salmond.

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      • WS.
        Quote ‘the fat controller’ – ‘smug smile wiped off Alex Salmond’s fat features”. The reasoned observations of the typical anonymous unionist poster!
        “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser”. Socrates

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        • So the cybernats rapidly retreat from any response to a discussion of The Dear Leader’s expenses scandal and resort to adhominem attacks on a fellow poster.

          Well lets lay that to rest:

          Wendy S Jones; as you would well know as I’ve posted my name before.

          Unionist? UK Nationalist? You boys are really afraid of opposing views aren’t you but, again, as I’ve posted several times before I am a Scottish Patriot who would like to live in an independendent Scotland in the correct circumstances. Salmond does not offer these by a long chalk and is merely yet another self seeking little Napoleon.

          Just a reminder of where we were….

          Mr Salmond had his snout as deeply in the Westminster expenses and allowances trough as the worst of the other greedy scum.

          The Salmond disciples have immediately retreated from any discussion of AS’s honesty and probity by attacking a fellow poster.

          Hmmmm…..says it all really.

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  7. WS is only another of the anonymous UK nationalist critics of Scottish nationalism who hurl insults from below the parapet. Would they be as gratuitously insulting if they were using their own names? You have to wonder who it is that states that he/she “does not care about what some toffs(sic) are at who live 500 miles away” when those are the people, along with their cronies, who are presently pulling the strings of the failing UK economy while they themselves prosper.

    Some MPs attend Westminster to represent their constituents and as an MP and as an MSP Alex Salmond has enjoyed over the years an unprecedented level of support from his own constituents, the people who know him best-check the figures if you doubt me.

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    • The only doubt in my mind is about politicians (regardless of party) who are both MPs and MSPs at the same time – reminds me of a boa constrictor that’s tried to swallow two goats rather than just one.

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  8. So much for the snp created lie about Andy Murray only being seen as British when he wins and Scottish when he loses. The media always interchange between his Scottish and British identity regardless of whether he wins or loses, as is the case with other British sportsmen English, Scottish or Welsh. We all need to remember that the snp tactic is to drive division and seperation between the people of this great nation using such tactics along with talking down the most successful union in the world – the United Kingdom when we all know that this island has been the most successful nation in the world of the past half millenium. Alex Salmond’s quest for personal glory is out in the open and all but his smitten snp worshippers can see it.

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    • The media handled things well and sport won which is the way it should be. For politics there is a time and a place and the Wimbeldon competition or any other sport at any level is not the place for a tug of war.

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        • Perhaps to an extent in the build up but then thats not the fault of the sporting side is it?
          Once events are underway it will of course be a fantastic spectacle, by way of a series of fine events, endurance and achievement rewarding many years of preparation and comitment.
          As for the politicians clinging on well — its what they do.

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  9. I find it quite astonishing that anyone can get so bothered and read so much into a politician attending a sporting event. Good God they do it all the time whether they be London based, Edinburgh based or…well maybe not Aberdeen based at the moment!

    If this is a sign of what is to come over the coming months then heaven help the credibility of the independence debate on here.

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