We understand that the organisation itself was selling …

Comment posted Tarbet and Luss en fete as Olympic Flame brushes Argyll by newsroom.

We understand that the organisation itself was selling both Saltires and Union Flags to bystanders (£2 a pop) at Luss. (A post-Hampden revision, perhaps?)
At Tarbet the guy with the bag of merchandise, seemed only to have Union Flags and whistles to sell.

newsroom also commented

  • Fabulous.
  • I have a long professional history of being seduced by the apparent confidence of titles and not proofing them.
    Many thanks for this prompt – and the location for the visit of the flame this morning is now correct.
    Lynda

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    We dealt with this issue when the RYA initially made their rather ill-judged public complaint.
    There were two competing versions of what happened and no third party can know which was the closest to objective truth.
    The Waverley’s owners’ version was that her less than precise steering was judged by the harbour master to be a risk to other boats in the flotilla, should any unforeseen incident on the water occur.
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  • The view from Lochinvar: party of the century from the Commonwealth Flotilla
    You’re absolutely right. Apologies for the error – and we’ll correct the text now.
  • The view from Lochinvar: party of the century from the Commonwealth Flotilla
    Thank you – and I wasn’t looking for this.
    Lynda
  • The view from Lochinvar: party of the century from the Commonwealth Flotilla
    Thank you for your kind comments about the piece.
    I never know to whom comments refer – so to be clear, in what I said to defend For Argyll’s and my own very real independence of anything and anyone, I had not suggested in any way that Mr Black was a supporter of anything.
    I was – and am – concerned only at his assumption that For Argyll is different from what I know it to be.
  • Managed protest at Pacific Quay shames pro-indy campaign
    For Argyll editorialises as a matter of policy.
    With interactive media today, since any reader is free to comment [unedited] – and many do – a news platform is free to take a position and not contribute to a fraud on the public by pretending that there are two sides of equal weight on a specific issue, where this is not the case.
    Our positional judgments are made on the basis of evidence and not on the basis of preconception or bias.
    The powerful evidence for this is that we publicly supported potential independence for several years from 2007. The reasons why we have come to oppose it today are evidential and arise from serious independent researches of our own. These have shown us that the prospectus on which the country will vote on 18th September is incomplete and knowingly deceptive; that promises made cannot be fulfilled as the prospectus stands – and more are being made on a daily basis now [today's is that if you vote 'Yes', wages will go up]; and that controversial decisions planned to be taken [as on various aspects of taxation] have been suppressed until later for fear of losing votes.
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    I departed when it became progressively clear that principle had been discarded in favour of a obsessive will to gamble that the country will buy a false prospectus if it is bribed enough and emotionally manipulated enough.
    Personally, I prefer to hope that people will scrutinise, learn and think enough – but I do not discount disappointment on that hope.
    The methods used to conduct the campaign are below civility and simply insupportable – the bullying, the unachievable promises, the rank dishonesty, the sleight of hand statements to shore up decomposing positions.
    No one to whom honesty and straightforwardness matter could put their name to taking Scotland into an uncertain independence on the back of this prospectus and this campaign.
    I have learned to disrespect the SNP as a party – never a position I had imagined I would arrive at. Whatever the outcome in September, I will not vote for them again.
    Lynda

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17 Responses to We understand that the organisation itself was selling …

    • Spot on, during the Jubilee the Republicans joined hand in hand with in happiness & unity. Don’t know where you were in this country (Scotland) but here in Dunoon you were very lucky or unlucky depending on your viewpoint if you clocked a small red white and blue streamer fluttering from someone’s door handle or the odd elipse of bunting. Apologies if you are posting this from England or Northern Ireland as they appear to favour this abhorent circus and obviously brought people together in happiness and unity.

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        • Intolerence? Not at all, simply a point of view shared, I’m sure, by many many more in Scotland. The Olympic flame, yes probably bring sections of communities together, sport tends to do this. When the comparison to the Golden Jubilee was made by Islay for ever I am sure I was not alone in noticing the lack of enthusiasm north of the border, wonder why?

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    • I have a long professional history of being seduced by the apparent confidence of titles and not proofing them.
      Many thanks for this prompt – and the location for the visit of the flame this morning is now correct.
      Lynda

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  1. Having been at Luss this morning and taking a few soundings among the locals {like myself},We compared the crowd to-day to a day at Luss Games. The committee members of Luss Games have estimated the crowd at 3000. They were four and five deep all the way from the hotel to the pier with the first of them arriving at 8 am

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  2. The only blot on the event was the racial abuse of a local for holding a saltire by a bombastic guest from south of the Border who currently lives in Helensburgh

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    • We understand that the organisation itself was selling both Saltires and Union Flags to bystanders (£2 a pop) at Luss. (A post-Hampden revision, perhaps?)
      At Tarbet the guy with the bag of merchandise, seemed only to have Union Flags and whistles to sell.

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  3. I think that Graeme should have been at Tarbet where some idiots who were waving saltires let Scotland down by the signs they were making to tourists in coaches from south of the border. Is it any wonder that we are called anti English and ashamed to be Scottish.

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    • Regrettably we do have a mindless anti-English element who give the rest of us here in Scotland a bad name. Thankfully they are well and trully in the minority and hopefully will remain so. It’s all very well having a bit of sporting rivalry and friendly banter however, when it descends into nasty insults or verbal abuse simply because of your country of birth then this is very disappointing. This said, waving the National flag of your country be it England, Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland I don’t think should ever be deemed inapropriate or merit disdain.

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  4. Pingback: Argyll News: For the record: the 2012 Olympic Flame in Argyll | For Argyll

  5. You are quite right to condemn the behaviour of these small minded bigots, and I join you in that. I’m neither anti English nor ashamed to be Scottish and the actions of people like this won’t make me so.

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  6. If we don’t expose racial abuse now then the Independence referendum could become very nasty

    It’s important that all examples are exposed whether it’s by young beds or middle class or aged ones

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