Exactly…to much waste and too much loss…. We do …

Comment posted on Scotland’s water, Scottish Water, climate change and the south east by Karl Hughes

Exactly…to much waste and too much loss….
We do exactly the same with energy…

Karl Hughes also commented

  • Agreed to a certain point involving domestic usage…however, there is some of the best agricultural land in the UK in the SE/E of England and this may need irrigation.

    Waste: We might all want to look at waste again…as with energy waste and line loss…the UK’s water companies are notorious at loosing millions of cuM of water between source and end use.

  • The good:

    This idea was thrown around during past droughts notably the one of 1976…
    It may be the furthest distance from source, but GB has it’s industrial revolution to thank for it’s incredible canal legacy…get the water to Kendal and the network begins in ernest…

    The Bad:

    Water:Foreign ?

    The Ugly:

    Seabed: Westminster
    Oil: Westminster
    Tidal: Foreign intervention
    Wind: Foreign owned
    Electricity: Foreign owned

    Not much left for after independance is there ?

Recent comments by Karl Hughes

  • Challenge to Scottish Government: Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?
    “who I helped fight against the ‘Tiree Array’. Have a nice one” LOL… don’t even go there MK…unless you feel you want to take a fall from that self constructed ever wobbly pedestal.

    “Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?” no changing you malcolm..

    C U next time we pass Ardfern, we will pop in for a nice cuppa chia…Can’t involve myself in your rhetoric just now….. I have a plane to catch.,,fun things to do…
    toodle pip ‘

  • Challenge to Scottish Government: Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?
    http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/documents/gypsies_and_travellers.pdf

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-big-question-whats-the-extent-of-travellers-sites-and-do-they-need-tighter-controls-1703156.html

    Two balanced articles here…recognising the problems and the solutions associated with nomadic people within the uk. Please also note the two distinctive ethnic groups…Roma & Irish Travellers

    Please also note the biggest issue is deeply ingrained social xenophobia and racism from local government, sucessive national government and the general population…

    FA also shows its own lack of knowledge of Roma culture and traditions, perfectly condensed in this sentence…”There are flush lavatories on the site – in the wash block, with residents forced to go outside in the night in all weathers.”

    Roma do not have inside toilets, and do not wash clothing inside the van…this is a historical hygiene tradition brought about by life on the road…

    Anyways…having slept on the entire thread; I am still of the mind that unless folk learn the difference between all the groups that make up travelling folk, look at the different cultures…. and the deeply rooted historic xenophobia…then look at the simple solutions to obvious problems associated witn traveler illegal camps…the percieved poblems will persist…problems generated by society and placed on the travelers.

    Its a sad fact that these British Citizens have less resources available than your average asylum seeker, or lifer in a uk prison…Its even sadder that we still have individuals who seem hell bent on burning witches in the 21st century… they can be found on this thread and typify the ignorance of the extreme few.

    Leave you to it.

  • Challenge to Scottish Government: Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?
    Fair enough…I have a bee in my bonnet over the whole issue…roma/romanichal are thrown into the pot with other travellers….there should be recognition of all the different groups. Ultimately they have all been pushed out to the fringes of society…the problems, and they do exist…have been caused by ignoring all the needs of a nomadic people in a fixed society….for centuries…biggest changes happened with mechanisation of farming practices…enclosure act, etc…etc..etc..the xenophobic attitude towards these folk is beyond comparison in the uk…
  • Challenge to Scottish Government: Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?
    LOL… warranted ?… ouch ! anyhow maybe you have sent lowry hamewart, Tae think again. :)
  • Challenge to Scottish Government: Change the everyday racist discrimination that asks how civilised is Scotland?
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didicoy

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9 Responses to Exactly…to much waste and too much loss…. We do …

  1. The good:

    This idea was thrown around during past droughts notably the one of 1976…
    It may be the furthest distance from source, but GB has it’s industrial revolution to thank for it’s incredible canal legacy…get the water to Kendal and the network begins in ernest…

    The Bad:

    Water:Foreign ?

    The Ugly:

    Seabed: Westminster
    Oil: Westminster
    Tidal: Foreign intervention
    Wind: Foreign owned
    Electricity: Foreign owned

    Not much left for after independance is there ?

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  2. You slightly beat me to the point Karl: it would indeed be daft to supply the SE of England with Scottish water but all that is needed is to move Scottish water to the North of England, then move NoE water to the Midlands, then Midlands water to the South. It is still not trivial but it is certainly feasible and how commercially viable depends on how much the SE wants water. (Though, that all said, it is probable that improvements to water capture storage and distribution in the SE would be a more sensible priority – after that is exhausted it is time to look at more radical solutions).

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    • It’s already possible to transfer water from the giant Kielder reservoir near the Scottish border from Northumberland down through Durham to South Yorkshire – a series of tunnels, pipelines and pumping stations connecting formerly separate water networks down the east side of the Pennines to feed a predicted rise in demand – notably the steel industry – that didn’t materialise.

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    • Agreed to a certain point involving domestic usage…however, there is some of the best agricultural land in the UK in the SE/E of England and this may need irrigation.

      Waste: We might all want to look at waste again…as with energy waste and line loss…the UK’s water companies are notorious at loosing millions of cuM of water between source and end use.

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  3. Every time there is a drought anywhere the news channels prop up a reporter at a convenient almost dry reservoir. In the backgrounds are huge areas of sand and silt.

    Why don’t the water companies get a JCB and a couple of lorries and dig all of it out to increase storage capacity?

    Simples? I don’t know – is there a reason why they don’t?

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    • Jim, I think regardless of how much is dug away and removed such and sand/silt there would still be a reduction of water, this would not increase the amount of water stored. So, the size of the resevoir is not the important factor here, it still requires constant water to keep levels above certain levels.

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  4. The issue has nothing to do with a minuscule change in the climate and everything to do with increasing population and increasing water usage.

    When will journalists start checking their facts and stop blaming the climate … it’s like the “wrong kind of leaves”. Climate has always changed … it will always change, but the biggest factor on water supply is the way we use it.

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