In August 2011, Pierre Primot bought a yacht in England – Fair Judgment III. She had previously been named Taiseer V; and had been built in 1953 at Alexander Robertson & Sons yard, designed by Charles Nicholson. She’s a 38 ft (12 m) auxiliary sloop.
We have discovered from M Primot that she sailed in the famous and challenging Fastnet Race in 1961, 1965 and 1969.
M Primot needs the plans in order to restore the yacht - but, as we know, Robertson’s yard is long gone and Camper and Nicholson has been sold. He has sent emails to Camper and Nicholson in the hope of help but has had no reply.
If anyone has any idea where M Primot might get hold of these plans, it would be most practically helpful to email him direct. His email address is:
primot.pierre@wanadoo.fr
For Argyll would also be glad to know if anyone can help M Primot on this seach.
Davehutch100@hotmail.com
David Hutchinson, if there is someone who’s where you would get plans it will be David, he has a outstanding knowledge of almost every boat that came out the yard and will be a great help to you restoring it.
Enjoy the project great to see historic boats being cared for.
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Many thanks for this very helpful advice. We have drawn M Primot’s attention to it.
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Thank you very much.
I sent an Email, I’m waiting for the answer impatiently…
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The answer just arrived. Unfortunately David Hutchinson has no plan concerning Fair Judgment III ex Taiseer V.
I keep my quest.
Many thanks
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We’re sure our readers will keep thinking about this for you.
And we’re delighted that David Hutchinson was so quick to reply to you.
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Might want to try contacting Toward Sailing Club. There are a few members of the Robertson family there that may be able to point you in the right direction.
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Many thanks for the advice. I’ll contact the Club.
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If Taiseer V was built to Lloyds 100A1 (which is likely, but I don’t have my old copy of the Lloyds Register with me to check)(or even a lesser Lloyds Classification) then plans will have had to be submitted to Lloyds who would have overseen the construction.
It is very likely these plans are still held by Lloyds.
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I’ll contact Lloyd’s Office. Thank You
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I was suffering in the rain around Tower Hill, lunch time today, and decided to pop into Lloyds Register to have a look in the library, and get out of the wet.
Yes Taiseer V/Fair Judgment III was registered +100A1 at Lloyds, until the suvey due in May 1978 was missed.
Unfortunately that ends the goods news. Lloyds say that they don’t have a copy of the plans….they were very helpful.
Fair Judgement III was owned for a number of years by Peter Carter-Ruck, a well known lawyer of his day. Unfortunately he died in 2003, so that trail is cold.
The last registered owner in Lloyds was Pitcher & Scott, Civil Engineers. They were registered in Scotland but appear to have been dissolved.
End of trail, though I’ll ask my son, who works in the industry, whether he has any ideas.
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You are very helpful
Many thanks
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Latest in the search, from my son
“It would appear that the unofficial C&N archivist is a chap called Jeremy Lines, though I believe from one contact that the drawings are in Greenwich. I am awaiting more info.
jeremy@linesmail.net
Or Google ; Jeremy Lines C&N archivist”
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Great!!!!
I’ll contact him
Thanks a lot.
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Jeremy Lines should be a good source of information, he was on the C&N design staff. The plans may be in the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, but other places to try are the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, one of the main archives in West Scotland, and the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh. Carter-Ruck’s firm is still in existence in London, you could try them as well.
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Thank you for the advice
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Thanks a lot everybody, you’ve been very helpful.
The set of plans is in the National Maritime Museum.
Thank you again
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FABULOUS result.
We couldn’t be more delighted – or more respectfully grateful to readers who have gone around some inventive corners to help Pierre Primot in his quest for Taiseer V’s plans.
Thanks to all of you.
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Received the following from Pierre Primot
“Here it is.
The available plans in the National Maritime Museum arrived at home.
They’ll be helpful during the restoration.
Thank you again for your help”
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