Comment posted Tarbet and Luss en fete as Olympic Flame brushes Argyll by jake.
You are quite right to condemn the behaviour of these small minded bigots, and I join you in that. I’m neither anti English nor ashamed to be Scottish and the actions of people like this won’t make me so.
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It’s not just about keeping the monarchy and the £…..domestic appliances are still going to run on 240volts and we’ll still be driving on the left……you’re so right Newsroom, what’s independent about this? - ‘Pleb’ is not a word a police officer would come up with as a plant
well no actually. Problem is just swearing at the english polis isn’t enough. See for example Harvey v DPP (2011) http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/daniel-harvey-v-dpp.pdf….there would also need to be element of the officer ( or by standers) feeling threatened, alarmed or distressed etc.
One might speculate that the testimony of a tourist accompanying a young child to that effect would assist in securing a prosecution….
- ‘Pleb’ is not a word a police officer would come up with as a plant
Newsie: does your notion that the word “pleb” is not in common usage extent to the residents of Ruislip where the so called 3rd police officer( actually a member of the elite royal and diplomatic squad) lived?
The demographics of the area suggest to me that the distinction between the plebian and patrician classes would be intuitively understood by them.www.hillingdon.gov.uk/media.jsp?mediaid=16101&filetype=pdf
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They would do well to read what Alasdair Gray actually wrote* rather than rely upon Jenny Hjul’s selective quotes, misrepresentation and smear by association.
If Ms Hjul had any journalistic integrity she would have qualified her comments about press reports about racist incidents against English people by pointing out not just the error in reasoning that they contained, but that supported by later published evidence they were disputed and unfounded ( this was reported in The Times the day before her article appeared).
But your point is well made HB, there has been damage done to business’s and reputations but in this instance Ms Hjul’s scribblings in the national press are more to blame than a nuanced essay by an acclaimed author in a previously obscure anthology. Interestingly the editor of the collected works, Scott Hames anticipated the likes of Hjul and others when he said “The Unstated collection assumes in advance ‘that the views of individual writers [will] be managed, “storied”, inflated and filtered in various distorting ways’ during the independence debate, on both sides of the argument. Some things are inevitable.”* for those who might care to read Settlers and Colonists for themselves it’s now here (and free)
http://www.word-power.co.uk/viewPlatform.php?id=610 - Scotsman sees EU letter indicating independent Scotland would have to apply to join
seems they’re all at it….http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20649018
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Just like the Diamond Jubilee , bringing people together in happiness and unity ……
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Spot on, during the Jubilee the Republicans joined hand in hand with in happiness & unity. Don’t know where you were in this country (Scotland) but here in Dunoon you were very lucky or unlucky depending on your viewpoint if you clocked a small red white and blue streamer fluttering from someone’s door handle or the odd elipse of bunting. Apologies if you are posting this from England or Northern Ireland as they appear to favour this abhorent circus and obviously brought people together in happiness and unity.
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‘Abhorrent’? surely, whatever the rights and wrongs of the olympic bandwagon, this smells of intolerance.
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Intolerence? Not at all, simply a point of view shared, I’m sure, by many many more in Scotland. The Olympic flame, yes probably bring sections of communities together, sport tends to do this. When the comparison to the Golden Jubilee was made by Islay for ever I am sure I was not alone in noticing the lack of enthusiasm north of the border, wonder why?
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A little typo in the heading I think. Tarbet, one “R”.
(You got it correct in the main body of the text).
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I have a long professional history of being seduced by the apparent confidence of titles and not proofing them.
Many thanks for this prompt – and the location for the visit of the flame this morning is now correct.
Lynda
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Having been at Luss this morning and taking a few soundings among the locals {like myself},We compared the crowd to-day to a day at Luss Games. The committee members of Luss Games have estimated the crowd at 3000. They were four and five deep all the way from the hotel to the pier with the first of them arriving at 8 am
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Fabulous.
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I should have said The committee members past and present who were near to us estimated the crowd at 3000
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The only blot on the event was the racial abuse of a local for holding a saltire by a bombastic guest from south of the Border who currently lives in Helensburgh
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We understand that the organisation itself was selling both Saltires and Union Flags to bystanders (£2 a pop) at Luss. (A post-Hampden revision, perhaps?)
At Tarbet the guy with the bag of merchandise, seemed only to have Union Flags and whistles to sell.
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Very well done Myles. You ran like a born athlete and what terrific support from Mid Argyll with the choir, pipes and band. Stephen
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I think that Graeme should have been at Tarbet where some idiots who were waving saltires let Scotland down by the signs they were making to tourists in coaches from south of the border. Is it any wonder that we are called anti English and ashamed to be Scottish.
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Regrettably we do have a mindless anti-English element who give the rest of us here in Scotland a bad name. Thankfully they are well and trully in the minority and hopefully will remain so. It’s all very well having a bit of sporting rivalry and friendly banter however, when it descends into nasty insults or verbal abuse simply because of your country of birth then this is very disappointing. This said, waving the National flag of your country be it England, Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland I don’t think should ever be deemed inapropriate or merit disdain.
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You are quite right to condemn the behaviour of these small minded bigots, and I join you in that. I’m neither anti English nor ashamed to be Scottish and the actions of people like this won’t make me so.
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If we don’t expose racial abuse now then the Independence referendum could become very nasty
It’s important that all examples are exposed whether it’s by young beds or middle class or aged ones
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