Comment posted Education Secretary loses Judicial Review of school closure rejections by Simon.
Newsie – I’m not sure the point you are trying to make at 4 above.
The fact is that the the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 was introduced by the SNP. This is the flawed piece of SNP legislation that according to BBC “the legislation on rural school closures was not working properly” and according to Mike Russell had been “more difficult” than thought.
Now made even “more difficult” one rather suspects by the inept failure of the Education Minister to win a case that the comhairle brought to court claiming the government erred in law and failed to apply its mind to the right questions. Lord Brailsford agreed and found that the call-in notices issued by the Education Secretary were ‘not justified’ and that they were ‘defective’.
Inept failure by Mike Russell.
Were Western Isles awarded their expenses?
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- I agree Crazy (can’t quite believe I’ve just typed that…) intersting but not at all suitable for primary school children.
- Newsie “What is hard to understand is that the government does not appear to know what its own law enables – or requires – it to do”. of course the SNP Govt don’t know the law – after all it was them that introduced this flawed Act in the first instance.
Will the Minister apoloigise? Will he……
Recent comments by Simon
- Walsh to lead all but Lib Dems, Conservatives and George Freeman
The SNP are incompetent and impotent.For all their promises and posturing their nasty little civil war, whilst it might be over, is far from forgotten. Who could forget that the SNP ‘record’ to date has been w-e-l-l inglorious at best.
In less than a year they’ve :-
‘Lost’ two Leaders,
‘Lost’ two Councillors,
Local branches attacked their Leader and his policies,
The SNP Constituency Chairman tried to persuade SNP Cllrs to vote against their own SNP budget proposals
SNP supporters have attacked other SNP Cllrs calling them “Traitors” and “duplicitous”
Lost the Administration
Behaved like a slut jumping in and out of bed with a variety of partners in a vain attempt to cling to power
Finally, and despite having the largest number of Cllrs – Dick Walsh looks likely to be back in charge – with the SNP reduced to a supporting role.SNP: incompetent and impotent.
- James Robb, as the cordite clears
Gobbells knew if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.That’s why it’s important to stop Fletcher of Buffoon when he lies. For example “Anyone suggesting that Dick Walsh should be brought back in or that the Con-Dems are given a whiff or power again… They almost caused the bankruptcy of the Council”.
Lie. Untrue. Lie. Fabrication. Lie. Never happened. Lie. Economical with the truth. Lie. SNP. Lie.
Dick Walsh’s budgets were all passed with no dissenting voice and there was never any question of the Council almost being made bankrupt under the previous administration.
Fletcher’s claim is a complete and utter SNP lie.
The Buffoon might have wished that was the case – but it never was. Given the on-going omnishambles of a pantomime that the SNP have visited on Argyll – you would’ve thought the SNP would’ve learned that humility and honesty can go along way – but they haven’t they still lie.
- Withdrawals move numbers against proposed new coalition
Dave, we all know that individual SNP members are being contacted and informed ‘that if you support this coalition you will be expelled from the party’.So Trail, Lousie Glen (“the most duplicitous person I’ve ever met”: Breslin) Sandy Taylor and the other “traitors” have “also refused to follow Robb” not from principle or conviction but from coercion.
Doesn’t really bode well for the future now does it….
- Proposed posts for proposed new council coalition administration
Newsie, “Councillor Kinniburgh sees what we believe is his first ever sniff of power – as Depute Lead Councillor for Planning and Regulatory Services – the traditional honeypot brief.~”What you mean by “the traditional honeypot brief” ??
- Proposed posts for proposed new council coalition administration
As I’ve said already this is a shambles.The behaviour of the SNP (including the ex-SNP, the resigned SNP, the suspended SNP and the still-as-yet-in-the-SNP) has been a complete disgrace. Their language about each other has been intemperate, their actions reprehensible and it does seem that they are only concerned about their puffed-up-egos and positions and continuing to stab their ex-colleagues in the chest.
Civil wars normally follow independence – but not in the case of the Argyll and Bute SNP.
The tragedy of course is that this is not over by a long shot. Civil wars leave festering memories and revenge is in the air as these internal conflicts shows no sign of receding.
The losers in all of this? Those deluded fools who voted SNP believing in a bright new dawn certainly, but actually all of us who live and work in in Argyll and Bute as the SNP Cllrs and erstwhile SNP Cllrs continue with their bloody civil war rather than getting on getting on with the job they were elected to do.
But perversely this might yet turn out to be of long-term benefit as quite frankly the antics of these amateurs in the Argyll and Bute SNP is the best advert EVER for a resounding NO vote!
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So just to clarify:
This judgement is on the technicalities? Nothing to do with how important a school is to its community? And tells us the law is “defective”?
Perhaps Western Isles Council will wait for the outcome of the Commission for Rural Education before making any decisions? That would be judicious of them.
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No.
These findings are exceedingly interesting because the Brailsford reading of the ‘remitting’ of the decision to Scottish Ministers (aka the Education Secretary) which call-in sets in train, is that the law requires Scottish Ministers in taking the final decision, then to review the case and the substance of the case – not merely to check that procedures have been correctly observed.
This allows the Education Secretary to consider and evaluate the evidence – even to seek further evidence. It requires an independent pronouncement – as the superior authority at this stage – on whether, in the concerns and criteria expressed in the law, a school should close.
These findings provide for an unfettered, very vigorous and engaged decision taking process following ministerial call in of council closure decisions.
The threshold to be crossed remains a conceptual problem – in that the reasons for call-in remain the identification of procedural – not evidential – weaknesses.
The 2010 Schools Act was very poorly written. The Wick determination has left it unable to offer the required shelter to a school that should not be closed.
Properly speaking, we should be looking at a root and branch revision of that Act.
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This decision has ramifications but it is not at all clear what these are!
What it does show, and clearly, is that the Act does need redrafting and I look forward to seeing the Commission’s report when it is published and its take on this.
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Seems to me that the minister limited himself to process so as not to get into political deep water on the actual merits of a case for closure. The judgement means he has to put his neck on the line and take responsibility (or remit to hmself) for the decision. If he closes a threatened school after calling it in, he puts himself right in the firing line. Oh dear! He will truly have to ‘own’ his decisions then.
Don’t see him lasting long if the precedent set here remains unchallenged because this is a man who hates to take utmost responsibility.
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What is hard to understand is that the government does not appear to know what its own law enables – or requires – it to do.
Lord Brailsfors has said that, in this case, the call-ins were unjustified and defective; and that he has been unable to find a consistent argument for calling-in these decisions between the reasons given in the call-in letters to Western Isles Council and those advanced in the pleadings in response to this challenge.
Interestingly – and with wide significance, he goes on to find that the process of call-in, once engaged, is very much more radical and protective than the government itself seems to have understood.
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Newsie “What is hard to understand is that the government does not appear to know what its own law enables – or requires – it to do”. of course the SNP Govt don’t know the law – after all it was them that introduced this flawed Act in the first instance.
Will the Minister apoloigise? Will he……
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It’s the 2010 Schools Act, Simon. Most people know the SNP government came to power in 2007. ‘Government’? ‘It’s own law’?
You must be singularly short of a gripe.
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Well, strictly speaking all laws are open to interpretation and the actual definition of the law only crystallises when the law is tested in a court of law.
In this case the interpretation of the Act by the Government’s lawyers is at odds with what Lord Brailsford has ruled should be the interpretation. This is hardly unusual with new legislation and, of course, if the Government appeals the decision and wins then the interpretation then becomes something closer to the Government’s view.
That said, I would be surprised if the Government do appeal as the intention is in any case to revise the legislation and the current ruling, while producing a short term disadvantage for the Government viz a viz the Western isles position, it does seem to STRENGTHEN the Government’s powers on call in (which was presumably not what COSLA intended).
So swings and roundabouts. The Western Isles have won their argument that Mr Russell’s decision was inconsistent but in doing so seem to make it much easier for the SG to call in future proposals as they can do so on any criteria rather than just procedure (which is sensible).
Bit of a score draw I would say.
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Following Lord Brailsford’s findings, it is not going to be easier to call-in closure decisions. Quite the reverse.
From now on, call-ins will have to be strictly tied to clear procedural failures.
However, there is now a second non-legal constraint.
Once called-in, schools with a strong evidential case to stay open will have much more protection than they have had up to now.
The terms of the Act have now been clarified, with the Education Secretary, post call-in, required to take a full decision on the case in question – and not bound by anything that has gone before.
Since the Act puts no limit on the time that may be taken between calling-in a decision and coming to an independent decision, there is room for a largely new process of whatever kind the Education Secretary chooses.
But this means serious, detailed work and careful analysis – which the civil servants who would be doing it are not used to doing.
This is the invisible non-legal constraint now on call-ins. Imagine the work demanded by four simultaneous call-ins, as was the case here with Western Isles.
This situation will have a limited life since the Act is demonstrably quite seriously unable, both from weaknesses in its framing and from deforming precedents set in its erratic implementation.
The Commission on the Delivery of Rural Education has already been asked to take the lead in reviewing the serviceability of the Act, identifying where it needs revision and perhaps making recommendations.
The Commission is ‘owned’ jointly by the Education Secretary and COSLA, whose perspectives and pressures are at some variance.
It is hard to be hopeful of a coherent and balanced specification for a revised Act emerging from this essentially conflicted context.
It is at least as hard to be hopeful of a well framed Act being the end result, given the intellectual fragility of the current effort.
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• A LEGISLATIVE RULE of SOCIETY given the FORCE of law by the CONSENT of the GOVERNED a RULE as of a CORPORATION
• From the neuter of Latin: STATUS: the LEGAL CHARACTER or condition of a PERSON or thing
• Also by its own definition it is NOT LAW it is only given the FORCE of law by CONSENT of the Governed
• By its own definition it only applies to a person and not a MAN or WOMAN
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Splitting hairs I know but I don’t read this as making call ins more difficult – they were always supposed to be bound to procedural failures. What has changed (and in truth was never really any different) is that when a raft of proposals is put forward (as in Western Isles and ABC – a situation that the Act wasn’t designed to cope with)call in will need to include all of the proposals (presuming they all followed the same procedure). Given the lack of definition around, say, what constitutes viable alternatives, it is always going to be easy for the SG to justify a call in. I agree that once they have been called in it is now much easier for SG to reject specific proposals as they are not bound strictly on grounds of procedure.
However, as we both note, this is presumably a temporary state of affairs and we will need to await the outcome of the Commission before being able to decide if protecting rural schools has become harder or easier. As usual, I am a glass half full to your half empty.
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But we do continue to hope that half full fills up.
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A very interesting article on the BBC news website under business – Dying Schools ,perhaps the idea could be copied in Argyll & Bute ?
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Islay for ever: I can’t find the article you are recommending: would you lease provide the link.
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Doc. Link here…http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18342083
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Newsie – I’m not sure the point you are trying to make at 4 above.
The fact is that the the Schools (Consultation) (Scotland) Act 2010 was introduced by the SNP. This is the flawed piece of SNP legislation that according to BBC “the legislation on rural school closures was not working properly” and according to Mike Russell had been “more difficult” than thought.
Now made even “more difficult” one rather suspects by the inept failure of the Education Minister to win a case that the comhairle brought to court claiming the government erred in law and failed to apply its mind to the right questions. Lord Brailsford agreed and found that the call-in notices issued by the Education Secretary were ‘not justified’ and that they were ‘defective’.
Inept failure by Mike Russell.
Were Western Isles awarded their expenses?
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Interesting approach Islay for Ever in the article.
Not sure how it would work on a practical level with children younger than high school age, which is where the council feels there is an issue.
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I agree Crazy (can’t quite believe I’ve just typed that…) intersting but not at all suitable for primary school children.
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The positive coming out of this (although not for the campaigners in the Western Isles) is that it reinforces the need for the call in process to be far more robust. This is something that ARSN has been calling for for a long time. Anyone with the remotest interest in fairness and proper process, irrespective of what side of the argument you are on, surely supports a case for the call in process to be transparent, to be better defined, and also, most importantly, to have a proper focus on quality of proposal rather than tick box compliance.
The A&B, Cleland Sneddon drafted, submission to the commission made it abundantly clear that they all they wanted to have to do was be able to say we have done X, Y and Z therefore we can close the school. They cared not one jot for whether the X, Y or Z was done competently or without material error or was drafted with an impartial mind – just that there was something written on a piece of paper which bore some passing resemblance to the required section as per the Act. This is unacceptable and has to be corrected by the commission via a strengthening of the Act. The Education Secretary is right when he says that it ‘indicates that Ministers should look at the merits of school closure, not just the process’ however I personally think it shouldn’t have taken a court ruling for this to be apparent. If there is one thing that should have been learned from the shambolic approach to closure adopted by A&B and Angus it is that the future of schools are often in the hands of senior officers, and elected members, who have a target outcome well before pen is put to paper or communities are consulted – the actual consultation process, and drafted papers are slanted accordingly and then pursued with an intent which is, at best, morally corrupt.
The Western Isles pursuing with the closure despite the moratorium is not an issue due to the timing of the call in and the moratorium being put in place however it does make a bit of a mockery of Ellen Morton’s claim that A&B’s closure proposal was halted because of the ‘flawed legislation’ (and, other than maybe Simon, we all acknowledge that that was playground politics by the ex Education Convener). If LA’s, and therefore COSLA, were so sure that the legislation was flawed then why is one of its members pursuing a closure programme which was carried out using that same legislation. It is a bit of a ‘cake and eat it’ scenario.
It also raises, once again, the role of judicial review in a school closure process. It is very convenient for Councils that they can invest public money into challenging a decision they don’t like. I actually have no problem with that mechanism being available as local authorities should be able to challenge a central government decision if they feel the decision is more about politics than it is about proper process. However what you can be sure of is that if the original decision by the government was not to call in the decision then the constraints of cost would have prevented campaigners from going down the judicial review route. Hence we have a phase in the process which is, really only available to one party.
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