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From what Patrick Harvie has said, there IS a decision by the Scottish Greens not to make an intended commitment to Yes Scotland at this point – for the reasons he gave.
This situation is to be REVIEWED at the party’s October conference.
The core issue is the one Harvie has described in accounting for a campaign that has not – yet – proved inclusive of its participants.
He has said that the Greens should not be used simply to wave a flag for someone else.
This resonates with a memorable situation in the 1988 American Presidential Election where the charismatic black leader, Reverend Jesse Jackson, was judged by the Democrats not to be politically acceptable as Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate.
But they needed the votes and the liberal credibility he could deliver.
Jackson, unforgettably, used the language of the slave trade to account for the position the party expected him to adopt, saying:
‘I cannot be asked to go out into the field, pick up votes, bail them up and deliver them to the big house where policy is made without being part of that equation’.
The parallel between where Jackson found himself then and where Patrick Harvie finds himself is obvious.
We continue to hold the view that the willful waste of the support of Harvie and the Greens is damaging.Fences may be mended by October but only the blinkered would seek to believe that what has happened now is of no account.
Harvie has been the most persuasive voice for the independence case – because he has not fudged issues, has been seen to be thinking in response to questions rather than parroting a pre-existing line – and has has been relaxed in his transparency.
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Not in my control and hadn’t noticed this myself [so thanks] – and will pass on your concerns.
This us likely to be one of the consequences of recovery from recent outages which were beyond our control.
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‘“The first thing that a totalitarian regime tries to do is to get to the children, to distance them from the subversive, varied influences of their families, and indoctrinate them in their rulers’ view of the world. Within limits, families must be left to bring up their children in their own way.’
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Eveything you say above applies justly to those who radicalise – but not necessarily to those who are vulnerable to be radicalised.
When you are young, everything in life is understood in simple binary oppositions. It is only time and broad experience that introduces and embeds the tonalities of understanding.
Many of the young everywhere, from the need to belong and from the acceleration of peer pressure, are also prone to follow the accepted behavioural norms or fashions of their peers.
This is why radicalisation is most easily effected in cities and amongst the large cultural enclaves that can form there.
The young, in their uncluttered understanding, are also idealist – and extremism is a form of idealism perverted.
What you say about the safety and security that relocated refugees now possess is also correct – but is amended by two considerations.
One is the automatic perception of all refugees as having the education to hold such an understanding of their situation. Many will be educated – some very highly indeed – but by no means all will have had the opportunity of education.
The second is that, as may be the case with some of the Bute families, if they feel and look ‘different’ from everyone around them and if they cannot communicate, some will feel uncomfortable and vulnerable, even intimidated – and it is unrealistic to assume that refugees will be universally made welcome in any locality.
We had assumed that the acceptance of such refugees here would mean the automatic employment of those qualified to teach English as a foreign language and that such classes would be taught in a regular and compulsory schedule.
This would be a responsible and necessary provision if integration is to be a realistic achievement.
We do not know if such provision has been made and there seems to be no mention of it.
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This is another issue – a procedural one – and one which clearly needs to be resolved while the need can be immediately understood.
It remains a mystery why, when political party leadership elections require set percentages well above 50% to secure a win, politicians would not have reason and wit to see that decisions taking a member of a significant political union out of that union, changing the nature of the larger union [helpless to prevent that] as well as the nature of the departing member, that decisions of such weight and permanence cannot sensibly be taken by 50% + 1 single vote of an electorate.
The opportunity for due revision was not taken following the Scottish Referendum, which was run under this rule.
Something like a 60% threshold would guard decisions against the percentage of transient whim – and/or of misunderstanding and/or of misinformedness – in any vote; and these are the things that that can help to create very narrow majorities on very profound issues.
Opinion polls declare that their results are subject to a 3% margin for error.
In the EU Referendum, a 2% change of mind would have produced an even tinier – but legally acceptable – majority in the opposite direction.
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