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Comment posted Dunoon Ward count and RESULT by Dave McEwan Hill.

Any thoughts yet on why so many Labour members are joining the SNP and will be voting Yes at the referendum?

Dave McEwan Hill also commented

  • Selection of infantile posts initially as expected after my last post and then some sensible,thoughful stuff from people with a serious interest in the main issues.
  • As a matter of interst I have contested for the SNP at town council, regional council, district council and parliamentary election on 7 occasions. I gave all that up ten years ago when I turned 60 and in fact stood in Dunoon Ward around then as paper candidate (ie name on ballot, no campaign) merely to ensure that there was an SNP candidate in each ward.
    Virtually all of my contests were decades ago when only the brave stood for the SNP and I am very proud to have played my part in carrying the SNP and the independence message from a position in the 60s when it was attracting less than 1% of the vote to a position as the biggest political organisation in Scotland. I have respect for all political activists of all parties who stand for election but none at all for those who provide puerile jibes without putting themselves to the judgement of the voters

    I missed a seat on Hamilton Town Council in 1968 on a recount. That was the year the Labour Party had asked me to stand for them but in those days the SNP and Labour got on well and respected each other.
    But that was before London sold the movement out. There are still good people in the Labour party and my sympathy is with them. As I watch the Tories, whose vote dropped again, being brought back into power in coalitions with Labour in many parts of Scotland I wonder what these good people are thinking. This is a gift to the SNP.
    I will ask (as many good Labour people are now asking) when did Labour (which was a home rule party till 1954) become the Labour and Unionist Party?
    No doubt we shall get a selection of infantile comments to this post

  • I’ll just repost the main part of my last post. Perhaps then instead of silly bluster the substantive points it makes can be addressed….like “Labour values”

    As Gus himself has indicated many people operating politically in Scotland USED TO BE MEMBERS OF THE LABOUR PARTY.

    “There are very many members of the SNP – perhaps even a majority – who were Labour members or supporters.
    The actual question for them was how much of Labour’s leadership retains any of the values that built the Labour Party.
    These values appear largely to have been abandoned which allows Labour to join into coalitions with the Tories all over Scotland.
    Power at any cost appears to be Labour’s guiding value.

    Despite a slowing of the process due to a relentless campaign of smears on Alex Salmond in all the media this latest cynical behaviour assures that the process of Labour being replaced by the SNP in many parts of Scotland will relentlessly continue.”

  • I’m sure Mike has retained the values that has guided his political activity.
    There are very many members of the SNP – perhaps even a majority – who were Labour members or supporters.
    The actual question for them was how much of Labour’s leadership retains any of the values that built the Labour Party.
    These values appear largely to have been abandoned which allows Labour to join into coalitions with the Tories all over Scotland.
    Gus is obviously the last to know.

    Power at any cost appears to be Labour’s guiding value.

    Despite a slowing of the process due to a relentless campaign of smears on Alex Salmond in all the media this latest cynical behaviour assures that the process of Labour being replaced by the SNP in many parts of Scotland will relentlessly continue.

    Gus appears to imagine that anyone who doesn’t agree with him deserves personal offence.

    No political benefit accrues from that

  • Islay for ever

    Very few people in Dunoon have heard of Cllr Donald Kelly and I can assure you none of them heard him urging them to vote SNP.

    Keep the jokes coming

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