Comment posted Tarbet and Luss en fete as Olympic Flame brushes Argyll by Alex Tickell.
Spot on, during the Jubilee the Republicans joined hand in hand with in happiness & unity. Don’t know where you were in this country (Scotland) but here in Dunoon you were very lucky or unlucky depending on your viewpoint if you clocked a small red white and blue streamer fluttering from someone’s door handle or the odd elipse of bunting. Apologies if you are posting this from England or Northern Ireland as they appear to favour this abhorent circus and obviously brought people together in happiness and unity.
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- Regrettably we do have a mindless anti-English element who give the rest of us here in Scotland a bad name. Thankfully they are well and trully in the minority and hopefully will remain so. It’s all very well having a bit of sporting rivalry and friendly banter however, when it descends into nasty insults or verbal abuse simply because of your country of birth then this is very disappointing. This said, waving the National flag of your country be it England, Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland I don’t think should ever be deemed inapropriate or merit disdain.
- Intolerence? Not at all, simply a point of view shared, I’m sure, by many many more in Scotland. The Olympic flame, yes probably bring sections of communities together, sport tends to do this. When the comparison to the Golden Jubilee was made by Islay for ever I am sure I was not alone in noticing the lack of enthusiasm north of the border, wonder why?
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- First Minister’s choice not to condemn mob behaviour proves Farage point
No idea where you can find UKIP’s policies Malcolm.Farages recent success down south prompted me to attempt to peruse their manifesto. It was nigh on impossible bar political commentors and journalists views which as we are well aware cannot be relied upon.
One thing is sure, Scotland will get it’s erse felt if the unimaginable ever happened and UKIP gained control here. Some of the bileous anti-Scottish quotes in tweets etc. from colleagues in his party leave us in no doubt the contempt they have for us in Scotland.
It is also no secret that they wish to do away with 128 or so MSP’s replacing with Scottish MP’s effectively ensuring a return to complete Westminster control. This to be done one week a month on “devolved business” at Holyrood, a thoughtful gesture.
Some on here on here must be drooling at the very thought, none more so than our Newsroom who has stated in her articles the almost entire Scottish politicians deficiences, inadequacies and inability to govern this country.
Of course these claims carry little weight, at least in recent times as Scotland’s unemployemnt figures, growth etc. out-performs the UK’s as has been well reported in a pro-union media. How that is managed with what some believe to be second rate politicians and limited powers is beyond me.
What it says about the ‘superior’ politicians in Westminster is self evident. - First Minister’s choice not to condemn mob behaviour proves Farage point
Today Brian Taylor’s big debate had an audience member advising people who oppose Farage’s party’s immigration policies advised some had been bussed up to Edinburgh from Birmingham & Liverpool. Fair to say they were not Anti-English?
With Farage’s straw clutching claiming this was anti-English abuse rather than anti-British, perhaps he has slipped up and revealed his hand. Confusing the protest being directed towards his own party and their policies as being anti-English protests suggests his party represents England only.
If these protesters represent the SNP or those in favour of an independent Scotland, is it fair to claim that the supporters of his party, albeit a tiny minority, who he inherited from the BNP some wishing Muslims to be wiped from the face of the earth and having blatant homophobic views represent the UKIP party? He can’t have it both ways.
As an individual I admire Farage’s straight talking direct approach, he has charisma and conviction in bucket loads attributes sadly lacking in politics today. He has however let himself down in intentionally misplacing blame for his own unsavoury experience, he acts like a petulant child when faced with an unexpected onslaught of negativaty.
This said, I am uncomfortable condoning the student’s behaviour which does not reflect well on what is on the whole an extremely tolerant, welcoming, multi-cultural and diverse Nation.
Farage will have to learn these encounters come with the territory, the sudden rise to political prominence he craved. - James Robb, as the cordite clears
“What’s going to happen when life gets tough and Scotland is independent will you just run away and give it back to the English? If you can’t run a small shop don’t open a big one”.
MB
Life is tough right now never mind your presonal theories of a hypothetical version of an independent Scotland would fall flat on it’s face and rush back to tie the apron strings!
What with wage increases over the last three years lagging behind inflation (in effect paycuts), a UK economy that has, give or take a 0.5% whimper, flatlined, the humongous burden of over 1 trillion UK national debt, UK’s AAA rating now confined to history, planned year on year cuts to council budgets for the foreseeable future….. the ails go on and on and on, it is about as far away from a flourishing Great Britian we in Scotland should fear departing.
Some may say that those variants over decades running the ‘big shop’ have mismanaged it resulting in a non-profitable and unsustainable business requiring remedial change, downsizing and/or diversifying? - SNP departures from administration – was money a factor?
courtesy - Home Secretary’s whole life sentences for police killers pressures Scottish Government to respond
“Off on a tangent”?Not at all.
So, if in the unfortunate event a police officer’s life is intentionally taken whilst off duty, a regular life sentence should be handed down by the courts, correct?
If, on the other hand, the officer happens to be on his or her way to work and is murdered, the perpetrator should spend his or her remaining life behind bars?Perfectly reasonable to have this clarified don’t you think?
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Just like the Diamond Jubilee , bringing people together in happiness and unity ……
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Spot on, during the Jubilee the Republicans joined hand in hand with in happiness & unity. Don’t know where you were in this country (Scotland) but here in Dunoon you were very lucky or unlucky depending on your viewpoint if you clocked a small red white and blue streamer fluttering from someone’s door handle or the odd elipse of bunting. Apologies if you are posting this from England or Northern Ireland as they appear to favour this abhorent circus and obviously brought people together in happiness and unity.
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‘Abhorrent’? surely, whatever the rights and wrongs of the olympic bandwagon, this smells of intolerance.
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Intolerence? Not at all, simply a point of view shared, I’m sure, by many many more in Scotland. The Olympic flame, yes probably bring sections of communities together, sport tends to do this. When the comparison to the Golden Jubilee was made by Islay for ever I am sure I was not alone in noticing the lack of enthusiasm north of the border, wonder why?
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A little typo in the heading I think. Tarbet, one “R”.
(You got it correct in the main body of the text).
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I have a long professional history of being seduced by the apparent confidence of titles and not proofing them.
Many thanks for this prompt – and the location for the visit of the flame this morning is now correct.
Lynda
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Having been at Luss this morning and taking a few soundings among the locals {like myself},We compared the crowd to-day to a day at Luss Games. The committee members of Luss Games have estimated the crowd at 3000. They were four and five deep all the way from the hotel to the pier with the first of them arriving at 8 am
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Fabulous.
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I should have said The committee members past and present who were near to us estimated the crowd at 3000
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The only blot on the event was the racial abuse of a local for holding a saltire by a bombastic guest from south of the Border who currently lives in Helensburgh
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We understand that the organisation itself was selling both Saltires and Union Flags to bystanders (£2 a pop) at Luss. (A post-Hampden revision, perhaps?)
At Tarbet the guy with the bag of merchandise, seemed only to have Union Flags and whistles to sell.
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Very well done Myles. You ran like a born athlete and what terrific support from Mid Argyll with the choir, pipes and band. Stephen
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I think that Graeme should have been at Tarbet where some idiots who were waving saltires let Scotland down by the signs they were making to tourists in coaches from south of the border. Is it any wonder that we are called anti English and ashamed to be Scottish.
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Regrettably we do have a mindless anti-English element who give the rest of us here in Scotland a bad name. Thankfully they are well and trully in the minority and hopefully will remain so. It’s all very well having a bit of sporting rivalry and friendly banter however, when it descends into nasty insults or verbal abuse simply because of your country of birth then this is very disappointing. This said, waving the National flag of your country be it England, Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland I don’t think should ever be deemed inapropriate or merit disdain.
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You are quite right to condemn the behaviour of these small minded bigots, and I join you in that. I’m neither anti English nor ashamed to be Scottish and the actions of people like this won’t make me so.
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If we don’t expose racial abuse now then the Independence referendum could become very nasty
It’s important that all examples are exposed whether it’s by young beds or middle class or aged ones
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