Comment posted Argyll First celebrate unanimous decision to return power to full council by Jnr Tick.
“When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority”
Islay for ever, you say the SNP are hellbent on destroying the UK? It is not and never has been the SNP’s aims to have the UK’s best interests at heart. The clue to the SNP’s intentions or motives is in the the S and the N, the interests of Scotland the Nation. It is not to destroy the UK, why should they have any interest in the UK? The SNP, for their sins, a real Scottish political party who’s interets are solely for the people who reside in Scotland. If you are looking to apportion blame for the demise in the UK and its, in my opinion, eventual disintegration, take a long hard look at where we are today, the embarrassing and ever widening gap between rich and poor, depravation in our towns and cities, lack of opportunity for graduates/school leavers, retention and maintenance of the abhorent wmd’s at Faslane, lack of respect for authority, drug addiction, I could go on and on. All these ails whilst being governed by Westminster Tory, Labour, Tory, Labour,Tory when will we break this cycle, come on the level headed people of Scotland, time to put this wonderful country right, to lead the way. If a party looking after the interests of its county’s residents has the knock on effect of ‘destroying the UK’ then so be it, but the SNP cannot be blamed for the intentions it came into existence for in 1934.
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- Just wondering where in my reply to ‘Islay for ever’s’ post did I mention the word instantly? Independence might however go some way to solving people’s inability to quote from posts accurately by getting Scotland’s education system back to the way it used to be, revered throughout the world. Sadly, like many other things here in Scotland, eroding, gradually becomming mediocre. Given time, in an Independent Scotland whichever government, be it Labour, Conservative, SNP or other, can implement real change, change that can revolutionise the way we all live, get back a sense of pride in where we live and who we are instead of a future of generations who are disassociated, disillusioned apathetic to anything that really matters in life. Jim B, what do people like yourself expect to see in a future Scotland as part of this wonderful UK? more of the same?, except even more of a decline I think. Why? Because the Unionists of this country, Scotland, expect radical change for the better will surely happen some time, some year, some decade, just keep putting the same old Westminster Labour then Tory governments in down south and they’ll see us all right, time to be brave and believe in your fellow countrymen and women that together here in Scotland we have both the resources and the intellect to make it work. I’m quite young, but admittedly and ashamedly have been naive to think Scotland lacked the attributes I have just mentioned for long enough, read to many rags, believed too many ill-informed anti-Independence people, but since the invention of platforms such as this, many of the myths of ‘paradise Union’ and ‘poor skint havnae got the intelligence Scotland’ can be quickly and easily dispelled. Incidently, the contempt shown to us by both the media and Westminster’s misinforming leaves a nasty taste in the mouth creating individualls like myself who will follow the Independence goal until my dying breath, if neccessary.
Recent comments by Jnr Tick
- Argyll and Bute Council: Where are we now?
Well said Archie r.e Hall, Breslin, Blair and MacDonald.There are some genuinely decent councillors who can hold their heads up high in all of this.
It has to be a concern that those with real integrity, those who have the interests of the people who elected them and for the betterment of the communities they reside, those who choose to put these very interests before personal financial and/or positional political gain do not get that disheartened that it stifles their potential.
I genuinely fear some of the less experienced, the new kids on the block could get utterly sickened through witnessing the actions of the few, the egoists the plunderers and who could blame them.Great pity the actions of the many are being judged by the actions of the few.
- New SNP group leader unable to keep the sheep in the pen
Like your tedious disingenuious Americanisms after each post haven’t we seen these very same observations in your posts?
How many times now have you typed up this list before, did you just copy and paste?
Now, we can all if immature enough to, highlight others grammar and punctuation but as you say lets leave that behind, a wee bit boring eh?
Finally, where in my posts have I accused you of “lying”?
The issue I had with your views are clear, nothing to do with lies, nothing to do with competency in what they deliver to date, just your suggestion that these deficiencies, call them what you will, are endemic therefor don’t vote for an independent Scotland as this is what you’ll get.
“I’m waiting (yawn yawn)” There you are, 30 mins, is this quick enough a response for you?
Hope, if content isn’t, my grammar is at least up to your standard in this one. - New SNP group leader unable to keep the sheep in the pen
So this is where your at Simon“Have the SNP shown, by example, that they are no longer a party of protest but a party that is unified and capable of governing Argyll and well as they would govern Scotland?”
Don’t vote ‘Yes’, an independent Scotland will be run just like the SNP run Argyll.
FFS, what kind of arguement is that?
What have you got to say about the SNP’s performance first and second term in Holyrood? Noticed you only cited a small elected group in one region of this country to suggest this is how an independent Scotland would be. I don’t mind for the squillionth time reminding you lot that a proper Scottish Labour party, Scotland focused Tory pary etc etc will as well as the SNP have Scotland’s interests at heart if ‘Yes’ is successful in 2014.
” imagine if you had voted for them – what an embarrassment.”
Well I and many like me did in two successive Scottish elections, not in the slightest embarrassed.We get the same garbbage here in Dunoon, “If they cannae run a ferry service how can they run a country” You know, good, level, well thought out, rational comparisons!
If this new, partially inexperienced administration in Kilmory were ticking over like a well oiled machine delivering good steady local governance, which they are not for the time being, not for one single second would I expect you, Newsroom and those with other political leanings to endorse anything the SNP delivered locally or let alone nationally but we’re well used to this.
- New SNP group leader unable to keep the sheep in the pen
“Two SNP councillors, not the sharpest”On what grounds do they merit this description?
The SNP councillors have been condemned from pillar to post for not doing what is best for the electorate in this fiasco instead accused of prioritising self interest, yet the decisions of two to co-operate for the greater good is viewed as a decision made by “not the sharpest” of individuals.
- First Minister’s choice not to condemn mob behaviour proves Farage point
If come independence our Welfare/Social security is to be exploited by as you predict “the creep north” we would no longer rely on another country reforming it to discourage.As things stand being on benefits and work is a close call for some and will continue to be until as fairer system is brought in.
Voting ‘Yes’ gives the people who live here in Scotland that choice.
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When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority .
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Ife – whatever you think about the national aims of the SNP, the councillors are elected to run Argyll & Bute, and you’re completely missing the point of this thread. If, heaven forfend, there are many people who would criticise Argyll First as you are, then local government really would go to the dogs.
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Perhaps IFE would give us the benefit of their wisdom & tell us what their preferred option would have been in the light of the votes cast & the candidates elected in May.
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..and your problem with this, if true, would be what exactly?
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Change the record Islay, you are starting to bore people, in fact I keep a bucket of water handy to duck my heid in after I read one your posts to keep from bursting my heid
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the snp cannot be trusted , get them out .
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I would like to congratulate Argyll First for doggedly pursuing this despite receiving so little support initially.
In light of Islay’s post I would also like to congratulate the A&B SNP group – I had no idea that they had such control over the destiny of the whole of Scotland. It would appear that independence will be won and lost by our local Councillors – who would have thought!
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The power of councillors is wide ranging. A couple of Council elections ago, the Conservative/Independent candidate in the Holy Loch ward was telling voters with an English accent that if the SNP candidate was successful, they would be sent back to England. When they stopped laughing, many of them joined the SNP.
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“When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority”
Islay for ever, you say the SNP are hellbent on destroying the UK? It is not and never has been the SNP’s aims to have the UK’s best interests at heart. The clue to the SNP’s intentions or motives is in the the S and the N, the interests of Scotland the Nation. It is not to destroy the UK, why should they have any interest in the UK? The SNP, for their sins, a real Scottish political party who’s interets are solely for the people who reside in Scotland. If you are looking to apportion blame for the demise in the UK and its, in my opinion, eventual disintegration, take a long hard look at where we are today, the embarrassing and ever widening gap between rich and poor, depravation in our towns and cities, lack of opportunity for graduates/school leavers, retention and maintenance of the abhorent wmd’s at Faslane, lack of respect for authority, drug addiction, I could go on and on. All these ails whilst being governed by Westminster Tory, Labour, Tory, Labour,Tory when will we break this cycle, come on the level headed people of Scotland, time to put this wonderful country right, to lead the way. If a party looking after the interests of its county’s residents has the knock on effect of ‘destroying the UK’ then so be it, but the SNP cannot be blamed for the intentions it came into existence for in 1934.
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Jnr Tick,
A well crafted response but wasted on IslayForever who appears to be a reincarnation of Kintyre1 with roots in Esher and naive political ambitions.
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Islay for ever is probably doubled up with mirth at the above posts.
Naive you say? Apparently independence will instantly solve the drugs problem and deprivation in our cities, not to mention wealth redistribution – now that is naive.
From what we have seen so far they will solve the deprivation problems in a large corridor running from Inverness to Edinburgh and we all know how deprived that is! As for Argyll I do not expect to see anything from The Silly Notions Party.
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Nobody ever said that Independence will cure all ills.
But Dependence is doing nothing for us now, so perhaps a change of direction?
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Just wondering where in my reply to ‘Islay for ever’s’ post did I mention the word instantly? Independence might however go some way to solving people’s inability to quote from posts accurately by getting Scotland’s education system back to the way it used to be, revered throughout the world. Sadly, like many other things here in Scotland, eroding, gradually becomming mediocre. Given time, in an Independent Scotland whichever government, be it Labour, Conservative, SNP or other, can implement real change, change that can revolutionise the way we all live, get back a sense of pride in where we live and who we are instead of a future of generations who are disassociated, disillusioned apathetic to anything that really matters in life. Jim B, what do people like yourself expect to see in a future Scotland as part of this wonderful UK? more of the same?, except even more of a decline I think. Why? Because the Unionists of this country, Scotland, expect radical change for the better will surely happen some time, some year, some decade, just keep putting the same old Westminster Labour then Tory governments in down south and they’ll see us all right, time to be brave and believe in your fellow countrymen and women that together here in Scotland we have both the resources and the intellect to make it work. I’m quite young, but admittedly and ashamedly have been naive to think Scotland lacked the attributes I have just mentioned for long enough, read to many rags, believed too many ill-informed anti-Independence people, but since the invention of platforms such as this, many of the myths of ‘paradise Union’ and ‘poor skint havnae got the intelligence Scotland’ can be quickly and easily dispelled. Incidently, the contempt shown to us by both the media and Westminster’s misinforming leaves a nasty taste in the mouth creating individualls like myself who will follow the Independence goal until my dying breath, if neccessary.
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You say you want to see education in Scotland back to the high standard it enjoyed previously .
Education in Scotland is devolved to Holyrood , so Scottish politicans have had 13 years of full powers on the issue and a doubling of resources .
Independence would do nothing to change the prospects of Scottish education in a positive direction .
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I’ve said it before elsewhere but I think it’s worth repeating – anyone who can’t actually spell independence shouldn’t really be debating it.
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Wouldn’t that count out a number of the 16 year olds that the SNP want to give the choice to?
To be fair I rarely, if ever agree with Islay for Ever, but I don’t feel resorting to cheap shots about spelling is the way forward. There will surely be enough cheap shots being made by all political parties in the coming months and years to satisfy any desire for them!
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sorry, you’re probably right Integrity…. but you’ve made a wee bit of a cheap shot at 16 year olds there!
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Only at the mincers Alison (I am in trouble for that one!)
Sorry couldn’t reply to your reply as it wasn’t an option.
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O dear a spelling mistake in a comment about education .
I thought I had gained a good grasp of spelling at my small local primary school now sadly closed .
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JT – since you tagged my name to a question in your post I suppose it behoves me to reply.
It is not so much a case of foreseeing some magnificent event in the Union that will suddenly bring riches to Scotland and its people but rather potential dangers in being seperated from the rest of the UK.
In your lifetime the world will have to tackle monumental problems if the human race is to survive, e.g. population control, climate change, food production, water distribution to name but a few. The solving of these survival issues will become more difficult with the political scene fragmented into smaller and smaller countries. This is the longer view.
In the shorter term we are promised the Kingdom of Heaven by SNP activists like yourself but have experienced blatant lies and incompetence from the SNP government not to mention childish games like the announcing of the bathtub boats AFTER the election. The documents surrounding the bids for new/refurbished schools were apparently incompetently written and there have been other examples. Doesn’t give me confidence!
We are entering a scenario where western influence in the world is waning. China, India and possibly other eastern countries are in the ascendancy – even the US is begining to realise this. Small countries will be swept aside in the rush to dominate the new world order.
Whilst I admire your youthful zeal and confidence, as I approach my 3 score years and ten in the ‘varsity of life I think your confidence is misplaced.
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Argyll First are a bunch of chancers and publicity whores. A wee bird has just told me that the Turncoat Tory (Kelly) and the Gutterman (McAlpine) didn’t even turn up to this council meeting to support this. Only Philand seems to have any integrity in this queer alliance.
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What’s your solution, KT? – burning at the stake, or just a stoning?
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stoning
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Talking about “Turncoat Tory (Kelly)” – I read in last weeks Dunoon Observer (still going Newsie depsite your ‘exclusive’ about impending doom last year…
) that the aforesaid Turncoat Tory is threatening to blockade the Scottish Parliament if the SNP Govt don’t extract the digit re the A83.
Really, is there no begining to this man’s talents?
He is publicly saying he will break the Law to further his own political end. Didn’t an erstwhile Tory leader, one Maggie of the Thatch, lecture us all once (during the miners strike) pointing out that “you cannot choose which Laws to obeserve”.
What does the Tory Leader in Scotland say about this threatof illegal action from one her party’s Councillors?
And indeed what does the local SNP leader McCuish make of all this? One of his alliance allies threatening not only to break the Law but to to attempt to blockade the SNP Govt in Edinburgh.Is happy to be assoicated with this numpty?
I think we should be told
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Given that over the years you could be forgiven for thinking that the Brussels – rather than the Edinburgh – regime sometimes cares more for our Argyll trunk roads, is it any wonder that people’s minds turn to thoughts of civil disobedience?
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