Transport Scotland seem destined to roll out the …

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Transport Scotland seem destined to roll out the mistakes it made on the Dunoon Gourock route to other parts of Scotland.

One critical issue is the provision of relief vessels. CalMac with multiple routes is able to move vessels between routes. Once CalMac is broken up, and that seems to be the intent, cover will not be provided for scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. So half-service will run for weeks at a time.

Marketing will also disappear, Dunoon is almost invisible in CalMacs literature now.

Transport Scotland probably will not even bother to specify that the vessels have to run in the sea conditions on the routes so people will end up with bathtubs as we did on the Dunoon Gourock crossing.

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  • Jim of course it should not appear in the literature you are quite right.

    So I am of Scottish descent living in America and and I decide I am going to travel round Scotland and the Western Isles. Heaven forbid anybody would make it easy to this, I might mistakenly assume I was welcome.

    No. Much better that I somehow need to figure out where the crossings are and which company runs which crossing, then get separate timetables, then try to mach up the sailings and times, then buy separate tickets (no discounts across several operators of course).

    You are absolutely right. Even though CalMac is a state owned company that owns Argyll Ferries it really would be ridiculous for them to include the route.

    Of course the reason they don’t include the route is because it is embarrassing to be associated with Argyll Ferries as the company is designed to fail. However CalMac, and it is CalMac, have just notched up their first yellow card with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency – they cannot escape the fact that CalMac own and are responsible for Argyll Ferries.

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    What you do not do is accept vessels which regularly and repeatedly fail to run for days at a time.

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    I take exception to your statement that “The Argyll Ferries’ passenger boats, being necessarily lighter craft, are more prone to delay and cancellation in a bit of a blow”.

    Transport Scotland should have specified vessels able to provide a reliable service. They did not hence the problem.

    Also the gentleman referred to in the article in the Observer concluded by saying he did not want a lot of energy devoted to cross ticketing etc he wanted it devoted to the getting his town centre ferry service taking him to the trains to work.

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5 Responses to Transport Scotland seem destined to roll out the …

  1. Transport Scotland seem destined to roll out the mistakes it made on the Dunoon Gourock route to other parts of Scotland.

    One critical issue is the provision of relief vessels. CalMac with multiple routes is able to move vessels between routes. Once CalMac is broken up, and that seems to be the intent, cover will not be provided for scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. So half-service will run for weeks at a time.

    Marketing will also disappear, Dunoon is almost invisible in CalMacs literature now.

    Transport Scotland probably will not even bother to specify that the vessels have to run in the sea conditions on the routes so people will end up with bathtubs as we did on the Dunoon Gourock crossing.

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    • Absolutely. The relief ships issue is a major one.
      CalMac is expert at the chess game which is moving ships around to keep all routes supplied if one member of the fleet has to come out of service unexpectedly.
      With the variety of ships, community need and berthing facilities, this ship shuffle is second nature to CalMac. A new operator would not have this expertise – they might also not have enough routes to shuffle appropriate ships around to maintain a service, if not a full one, to all destinations.
      The routes identified for tendering look to us as if the potential need to move ships between routes is driving the make up of the bundles.

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  2. Perhaps TS has been looking at how other, forward-thinking and progressive countries run their ferry services, where no state-owned near-monopolistic operators run boats to their own agendas.

    And it’s obviously escaped your notice that Dunoon is no longer served by CalMac – why would it appear in any of their literature? Or is that more wishing thinking?

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    • Jim of course it should not appear in the literature you are quite right.

      So I am of Scottish descent living in America and and I decide I am going to travel round Scotland and the Western Isles. Heaven forbid anybody would make it easy to this, I might mistakenly assume I was welcome.

      No. Much better that I somehow need to figure out where the crossings are and which company runs which crossing, then get separate timetables, then try to mach up the sailings and times, then buy separate tickets (no discounts across several operators of course).

      You are absolutely right. Even though CalMac is a state owned company that owns Argyll Ferries it really would be ridiculous for them to include the route.

      Of course the reason they don’t include the route is because it is embarrassing to be associated with Argyll Ferries as the company is designed to fail. However CalMac, and it is CalMac, have just notched up their first yellow card with the Maritime and Coastguard Agency – they cannot escape the fact that CalMac own and are responsible for Argyll Ferries.

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  3. Actually, if you go to page 45 of the current edition of CalMac’s ‘pocket-sized’ timetable, you will indeed find a timeteable for the Gourock-Dunoon service, helpfully and brightly coloured red to indicate that the service is provided by another operator and not by CalMac themselves. It would be more to the point if, within the same section of the timetable, CalMac saw fit to include the Western Ferries service too as the element of competition is no longer there. Or is that delving into the realms of wishful thinking again, this time on my part?

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