Comment posted Yeoman Bontrup: the fire and the recovery by Murdoch MacKenzie.
Like Robert above, I wondered if there would be a change of location for the elevator belt and the boom to the forward end. It’s something that wasn’t mentioned on Thursday, and I didn’t ask either, but I am sure that it would have been considered. It would probably have meant major modifications to the three conveyors that run below the holds to get them operating in the opposite direction. It would also have probably required major structural additions to the forward hull of the ship, to cope with the added torsional forces.
The cause of the fire was hot work that was being done above the elevator. As there will always be this same danger in the future, they will likely have had safety consultants review their hot work procedures to mitigate against a recurrence. I am sure that the insurance companies and the marine authorities would have insisted on this.
Recent comments by Murdoch MacKenzie
- New major financial issue, supposing Scotland voted ‘Yes’ to independence
That’s because it was and is Scotland’s oil. It has gone straight into the London Coffers to be spent on projects that boost their local area.
A free Scotland will not be a jackpot for anyone. They will be too busy working on all the improvements that we have missed out on. - DVLA: one example of what demerging means
A couple of kids from Dundee could set this up in their playtime.
Seriously though, the UK driving licence is now very much a security card as well. Like your passport, with which it shares your data, it is chipped so you can be identified from a reader. Once your details are on the system anyone can buy into it and attach as much of your information as they like. They check your insurance in a second when you pay your road tax online and you don’t need to produce proof of identity when you open an online bank account.
How far do you think they will take it for spying on us, given the news that our government and the US have been doing just that for 10 years? Do you think they will install sensors in the streets so that the police will be able to take your card into their vehicle and get your track laid out on a map like the marine AIS programs do for the ships or, if they are looking for you, simply put your ID into their program and see the last sensor you passed.
Maybe we would be better off with the old system in a new Free Nation. - Helicopter unable to transfer patient from Oban Hospital on Thursday evening
I’m already booked for a chopper flight this week. Unfortunately, it will be 3000 miles from Oban. - Helicopter unable to transfer patient from Oban Hospital on Thursday evening
Alison’s posts were very informative and, unlike yours, they were very civil. They were made a full day after my post, which you have correctly said followed Sarah’s posting.
Despite all that, I see nothing authoritative in Alison’s post. Maybe you know something that I don’t. - Helicopter unable to transfer patient from Oban Hospital on Thursday evening
Still spitting your venom I see. To answer your one reasonable question about what on here suggests that Jnr. doctors are out of touch with reality you will first of all need to understand that my comment was the second one posted below the article, so at that time only the article and the Lowry comment existed. Everything that was written up to then said that the diversion was caused by the barbecue at the landing area.With regard to that comment that upsets you so much, it is quite correct. If, as could have been the case, the diversion was caused by industrial misconduct, then sackings would have been justified. I have not seen any authoritative explanation on here that “there is a very good explanation of how this happened as it did”.
It is hard to respond to such obvious ignorance so I will not be responding to any further comments that you may post.
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There was comment at the time of the fire that the Yeoman ships have the conveyor boom operating from the stern end, immediately in front of (and attached to) the bridge/accommodation block with the engine room below, whereas there are other ships of this type with the conveyor boom operating from the bow, with less risk to the ship in the event of a conveyor belt fire. Easy to be wise after the event, but food for thought.
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As you can see from the photographs, the boom belt assembly is mounted at the accommodation tower – and the lift belt from the bottom belt the cargo holds discharge onto runs up the front face of the accommodation unit.
Lay logic – but I guess this is the only position that lets them get the height for the lift belt to rise enough to discharge adequately on to the conveyor boom on the necessary volume/speed axis in unloading.
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Like Robert above, I wondered if there would be a change of location for the elevator belt and the boom to the forward end. It’s something that wasn’t mentioned on Thursday, and I didn’t ask either, but I am sure that it would have been considered. It would probably have meant major modifications to the three conveyors that run below the holds to get them operating in the opposite direction. It would also have probably required major structural additions to the forward hull of the ship, to cope with the added torsional forces.
The cause of the fire was hot work that was being done above the elevator. As there will always be this same danger in the future, they will likely have had safety consultants review their hot work procedures to mitigate against a recurrence. I am sure that the insurance companies and the marine authorities would have insisted on this.
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The 3 newest Yeoman vessels, all have the elevator belt & tower situated next to the main superstructure. Yeoman Brook, the oldest of the fleet, & the CSL vessels that also visit Glensanda have them near the bow.
It may be that having the tower near the accommodation block gives an improved view ahead, or it may be that it means that there’s better weight distribution & easier routing of services when everything is near the engines. I guess only the designers will be able to give the definitive answer!
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