Comment posted Tuesday 1st May: Kilcreggan-Gourock morning sailings cancelled by Hamish Beaton.
Aye Robert probably all three, but some submissions may stick. SPT are the guys running the show, and they’re the guys that have to be networked and cajoled. What’s needed are Friends of the ferry along the lines of the the Friends of the Carlisle Settle line http://www.settle-carlisle.co.uk/about_foscl.cfm or the Dales Bus service http://www.dalesbus.org/ both are real campaign groups with successive wins under their belts – if the ferry numbers fall, it will be a bus replacement then that will be withdrawn and the SPT bean counters will be happy.
Hamish Beaton also commented
- By an Order made under the Inshore Fishing (Scotland) Act 1984, sea fishing by trawlers
within the Firth of Clyde is prohibited between midnight Friday and midnight Sunday. Creel
fishermen may lay static gear on the seabed of narrow channels as defined above between
midnight Friday and midnight Sunday, providing that the riser(s) is at least 50 metres from
the channel edge.
Any creels laid must be adequately marked at each end by buoys in accordance with the
Clyde IFG code. The riser buoys should clearly splay the name of the fishing boat that
has laid the creels. Creels should not be laid in the approaches to berths, piers, jetties, on
marked ferry crossings, marinas and anchorages.(Clydeport Regs March 2012)
HM Clyde Port has separate Regs which place exact distances for laying gear from channels and jetties – I think its 50m, but there’s a lot of very small print. But they do stipulate that all marker lines should sink when detached from creels and gear.
Down on the South Coast of England there are problems with pot and creel lines having steel jiggers attached to the marker buoys, contact causes costly damage to vessels and the RYA and other marine organisations were asking for reports on such instances where fouling occurred.
So boats do run down creel lines and drifting gear. The current Kilcreggan ferry operator may now think it prudent, at the very least, to install strippers or knives on both propeller shafts. I hope someone is collating all these misfortunes for a submission to SPT who have done more damage this year to integrated transport around the Clyde than this ferry’s run in with a floating creel line or flotsam
Recent comments by Hamish Beaton
- Serenissima leaves Oban for Iona
To the person who clicked dislike. Are you suggesting that no investigation of the grounding should be held and there should be no questioning whether or not there are contingency plans to cover this sort of stranding? - Serenissima leaves Oban for Iona
Firstly she appeared not to be showing the correct signal for a vessel aground. Secondly she is registered in The Caribbean let’s hope the MRCA do a spot check, because it’s unlikely that a comprehensive investigation will be triggered from St Vincent. Good to see our volunteer RLNI service standing by, will be interesting to read what if any emergency planning has been undertaken regarding any possible incident in the Bay. If she had thumped the ledge hard it may well have been a different outcome - Easdale Island emergency evacuation exercise identifies fixed link issue
The Island and policies are simply a slate bing, a slate grey tip, from our bygone industrial heritage. The original community slaved to fill in all the nooks and crannies with grey slate rubble – eventually being robbed of their livelihoods. Even Easdale Sound was narrowed and made shallow with the waste. It would be a trivial matter to drop a load of ballast into the shoal Sound from the old pier to the Island making a causeway and bingo a new peninsular created. Indeed create a new marina at the same time, off setting the original cost of the job and creating some-more permanent full time work. But I guess the locals would hate it, despising the committee members that proposed it. Aye this would really divide them more than the Sound does today and send them scuttling back to the indomitable bickering committees right enough? - Easdale Island emergency evacuation exercise identifies fixed link issue
There is a lovely flat bottomed bow loading self propelled barge that takes the large wheelie bins away. Problem solved: Either only have a fire or evacuation on bin day or make the barge’s home port the Island. Or look to Sark or St Michael’s Mount both with similar problems, I’m sure we could find a few council volunteers for a summer fact finding mission to see how self help works? I just love these insights into what goes on in Argyll in our name – and no doubt these persons were paid handsomely for recommending further committee work – it’s self perpetuation and committee work at its very finest – they are all to be congratulated. - McGrigor hits out at SNP government over RET removal
Keith – I do believe what you propose is called ethnic cleansing. It has been tried before in this region, and if I recall my history, from time to time met with considerable local resistance, civil disobedience, and armed insurrection – could be that your ideas and policy are a tad flawed and not fully developed – some unkind persons may even suggest cranky, or not there in the head, but who am I to judge. Suggest reading good history book for starters may be enlightening and keeping your vision for us all under wraps for the time being.
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Those creels have been there for years and outside of the required 200m approach exclusion zone. Perhaps the antique skipper should be hanging up his rowlock’s? Is this another example from the catalog of errors?
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The creels that did the damage had come free and were drifting. That is not a situation any sklpper can avoid.
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By an Order made under the Inshore Fishing (Scotland) Act 1984, sea fishing by trawlers
within the Firth of Clyde is prohibited between midnight Friday and midnight Sunday. Creel
fishermen may lay static gear on the seabed of narrow channels as defined above between
midnight Friday and midnight Sunday, providing that the riser(s) is at least 50 metres from
the channel edge.
Any creels laid must be adequately marked at each end by buoys in accordance with the
Clyde IFG code. The riser buoys should clearly splay the name of the fishing boat that
has laid the creels. Creels should not be laid in the approaches to berths, piers, jetties, on
marked ferry crossings, marinas and anchorages.(Clydeport Regs March 2012)
HM Clyde Port has separate Regs which place exact distances for laying gear from channels and jetties – I think its 50m, but there’s a lot of very small print. But they do stipulate that all marker lines should sink when detached from creels and gear.
Down on the South Coast of England there are problems with pot and creel lines having steel jiggers attached to the marker buoys, contact causes costly damage to vessels and the RYA and other marine organisations were asking for reports on such instances where fouling occurred.
So boats do run down creel lines and drifting gear. The current Kilcreggan ferry operator may now think it prudent, at the very least, to install strippers or knives on both propeller shafts. I hope someone is collating all these misfortunes for a submission to SPT who have done more damage this year to integrated transport around the Clyde than this ferry’s run in with a floating creel line or flotsam
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Do you not think that the submission would fall on deaf / complacent / stupid ears?
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Aye Robert probably all three, but some submissions may stick. SPT are the guys running the show, and they’re the guys that have to be networked and cajoled. What’s needed are Friends of the ferry along the lines of the the Friends of the Carlisle Settle line http://www.settle-carlisle.co.uk/about_foscl.cfm or the Dales Bus service http://www.dalesbus.org/ both are real campaign groups with successive wins under their belts – if the ferry numbers fall, it will be a bus replacement then that will be withdrawn and the SPT bean counters will be happy.
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