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Another interesting denialist technique. If you look back over …

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Another interesting denialist technique.

If you look back over this thread you will see that no-one on here has made any comments about multi-year Arctic sea ice, the colonisation of Antarctica by temperate plants or last Winter’s storms.

It is a favourite denialists trick to make up things which ‘warmists’ or ‘alarmists’ (as they like to call the world climate science community and those who believe them) have allegedly said or claimed. Usually no evidence is presented, but if they say it enough times people will assume there must be something in it.
After all, no-one would just make this stuff up, would they?

Well yes, they would. No-one said anything about any of these things, and WS’s claim that they did is no more than a cheap distraction
What was presented was clear evidence that the global warming trend has not stopped since 1998. For those who missed it the last two times it was posted, HERE’S THE LINK that shows how climate change deniers wilfully misinterpret data to support their warped world view. Do give it a look if you haven’t already – you may find it a bit of an eye-opener.

(WS is such a classic climate change denier that some people assume I have made him up as an illustration. I have to admit I couldn’t make a better job of illustrating the way the denial movement works, but no – WS is real))

Webcraft also commented

  • Renewables generated 35% of Scotland’s electricity demand last year.

    Wind accounted for just over half this. The rest came largely from hydro, but some also came from solar and biomass.

    When you consider the huge changes the coming of the hydro made to the Scottish landscape and the time it took to build the schemes the fact that wind has surpassed it already is quite impressive.

  • Malcolm, tell me more about wind turbines being shut down at night please. I think you are just making this up as you go along.
  • Malcolm,

    The 35% figure I mentioned does not refer the capacity factor of wind in Scotland in 2011. I am talking about the total amount of electricity generated and fact that the equivalent of 35% of all electricity used in Scotland was generated by renewable sources last year.

    Renewable electricity generation in 2011 was a record high at 13,750 GWh. Of this 7,049 GWh (over half) was wind. Wind therefore generated the equivalent of over 17.5% of Scotland’s electricity demand last year.

    I don’t regard 17.5% as too shabby for a newcomer to the generating mix, do you?

  • ‘Token gesture’ huh?

    Scotland generated the equivalent of 35% of domestic electricity demand from renewables last year Malcolm.

    I have no commercial interest in renewable energy by the way, I just have an interest in new technologies and in the world my grandchildren are going to live in.

  • ‘There comes a time when enough is enough and we have to move on’

    But what you are proposing is not moving on, it is standing still. You are like the people who opposed the railways or enacted the Red Flag laws for early automobiles, standing foursquare in the path of progress.

    My ilk are for progress, Malcolm. You and your ilk are for a (very) short term benefit to your own pocket at the expense of future generations.

    As for panicking, I believe it is you and your fellow sufferers from turbophobia that are panicking with the realisation that onshore wind will achieve grid parity in four years time or less. The whole denier thing is unravelling.

    Renewable energy is here to stay, wind, wave and tidal. Live with it.

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