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1. WS you are completely and utterly wrong …

Comment posted Question: How can we license fracking when we have permanent drought? by Stephen mackenzie.

1. WS you are completely and utterly wrong about man-made global warming. Completely and utterly. The debate surrounding it resembles the tobacco and seatbelt debates of years past: one side with actual evidence, the other with a massive vested interest.

2. The mobile view of forargyll doesn’t show the comment threading, which makes things a bit disjointed. Something to bear in mind.

3. I found this on twitter. http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sHWL3EC8cnMbR-DQO91AOkg/view.m?id=15&gid=environment/2012/apr/17/whats-the-truth-about-fracking&cat=environment

I hope we can all agree it is relevant to our various interests.

Stephen mackenzie also commented

  • Actually, yes, I’m surprised at the speed it’s developing here. If you’re against wind power, I agree it must seem very threatening. However, I like it. I walked down Buchanan Street in Glasgow the other day in search of trousers, and I could see the turbines powering Buchanan Street (so to speak) up in the hills to the south of the city.

    I’ll confess to being a little confused about that 35% figure as well. Did wind really generate 35% of all electricity made in Scotland last year?

  • Maybe For Argyll can set up a permanent floating bickering about renewables thread for us?

    Malcolm, I think you are conflating “efficiency” and “percentage of total electricity generated” back there. There’s also “load factor” which is another thing.

    And I’ll end on noting that in this week’s edition of Stephen’s favourite science magazine is a small article mentioning that the US is now preparing to export gas… since fracking has produced so much of it it’s no longer economic to sell it.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428612.800-us-to-export-gas-as-glut-slashes-prices.html

  • Methane doesn’t last nearly as long in the atmosphere as carbon dioxide does… but while it’s there it traps considerably more short-wave radiation.

    i.e. in the short run, more methane makes things more hotterer.

  • Thank you, Douglas, from saving me from looking up all that…
  • That was overexcitable journalists, you **$&$^%&!

    [EDIT: damn you threading! That was addressed to the comment above the one above. Obviously.]

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