Is anything being done for the equal opportunities …

Comment posted on Argyll and the Isles at EXPO: Summary of the last day by Nick

Is anything being done for the equal opportunities and benefit of all Argyll areas? Perhaps thats why they are letting the roads get so bad, so that everyone has to come by boat! ;)

Nick also commented

  • Got it, thanks Robert, that’s definitely not an advert for relying on boat travel! I’ll take care not to offend with foul transport posts in future!
  • Hi Mike!

    Thanks for being polite and answering my queries too, very much appreciated….

  • Have i missed something? How do you mean? Is that a threat or are people there passionate about getting roads improved? Not sure i understand.
  • Thankyou for the character assessment, or should i say assassination.

    On the contrary to the above assessment, i have a positive attitude, but i am a realist and to make positive change it is essential to identify the negatives. It just seems to me that Argyll doers have a habit of bathing in positivity regardless of results, this is one occasion where i believe that self praise has not been earnt yet.

    Further to the offensive ‘black cloud’ remark, im sure that those who suffer from depression, mental illness, or perhaps people who have taken their own lives in Argyll, and other places would be deeply offended by your remark. Which adequately demonstrates my point, that once again issues that need addressing are overlooked because they do not fit in with the positive attitude of those influential people, i see the ‘black cloud’ way of thinking as a positive not a negative, after all it takes people like us to step in and sort out the mess that other positive thinkers leave behind.

    Again in response to ‘tirade’, serious questions are being asked and continue to go unanswered , i would categorise it as being persistent, certainly not abusive, are they important? That is entirely irrelevant, if all of us are being asked to place our faith in people to do a job that i think some of us can do better then of course our queries should be answered, certainly it is a responsibility of the group to deliver information for public scrutiny.

    Do you know what, im not even going to bother to continue responding, your words show politeness, but conceal offence, its clear Argyll and the AISTP cant accept criticism, thoughts or opinions that differ to their own…. Capitalist Dictatorship in action again…

  • Congratulations on what appears to have been a positive experience, but without further ado straight on to serious business.

    How will the performance of the show be measured, how will we know how many of the 200 buyers have actually converted to a sale? (I cant help with wonderful technology like the internet that Expo seems an expensive proposition, particularly for just 200 potential clients) How will this be reported and how will conversion values be ascertained. Where are the buyers from, what markets, and what areas are likely to benefit from the 200 contacts, I estimate it will be Inveraray and Oban AGAIN this year with Kintyre and Knapdale well and truly left out of the visitor agenda, if not avoided altogether. What representation did Kintyre and Knapdale have at Expo please?

    Success isn’t measured in feel good factor and smiles, if that’s a measure of success, we have much to be worried about.

    It might look good on paper, but when these 200 clients come to Argyll and see half the place up for sale, no jobs, no opportunities, no business support, boarded up buildings, severe states of disrepair such as appalling roads, and activities businesses closed or inaccessible, I can guarantee they wont be back again – i bet you didnt tell your potential clients that (trade descriptions act still applies Mike by the way! I do hope the product you were pitching was accurate.)

    Seems to me like its easier for things like that to be ignored as inconsequential, but surely we should be dealing with the problems we face before we start trying to get thousands of people here to look at for sale signs, that to me says we have real problems, people can’t sell up quick enough (not everyone, but a large concerning number).

    I’m sure this will probably get ignored or answered selectively, but I wouldn’t be gloating just yet, if Argyll cannot get big businesses to setup in Argyll without huge government incentives, it is unlikely that tourism operators will be any different being bunged all sorts in return for low value business.

    Will it be show or no show… time will tell…

Recent comments by Nick

  • Emergence of Kintyre and Gigha Marketing Group completes Argyll and the Isles jigsaw
    Im just amazed at the allegations made regarding two people posting from separate computers are on and the same, why on earth would someone suggest such an act unless it was already abundant with the creators of For Argyll, simple reverse psychology would bring us to this very conclusion. Im sure we are all familiar with the ‘he who smelt it dealt it’ playground chant.

    I can appreciate that there will be opinions good and bad regarding For Argyll, it clearly operates a bullyish nature with regard to contribution, in my opinion no-one has operated in a professional way and i think Argyll would be For the better if this amateur delivery was no more.

    This is my final post and final use of For Argyll, a place where only a few are welome, and even fewer independent or different viewpoints are accepted, seems Argylls Euro even had immigration control in place already.

    Cheerio. Will be in touch regarding the privacy issue ( we are both still waiting for a copy of For Argylls Privacy Policy – if one exists?)….

  • Emergence of Kintyre and Gigha Marketing Group completes Argyll and the Isles jigsaw
    I wonder how many of these posts are by the owners and content contributors of For Argyll afraid to come out of the ‘closet’. Its a little cowardly dont you think?

    Also the connections between the group responsible for For Argyll seems to be heavily connected with AISTP and organisations that seem to be acting and would i dare say profiting from social connections, conflict of interest, the same old story guys its not what you know its who you know that matters.

    Its amazing what you can find out about the For Argyll team when you ask the rght people, such a shame after the weekends unfortunate privacy issues thats its unprofessional delivery perhaps along with the sustainable future of the AISTP may be shortlived.

    Please confirm that this article has been provided by AISTP and that the For Argyll team has not created th article, its rather a derogatory article, slightly amateurish, have a wonderful holiday monday…

  • Emergence of Kintyre and Gigha Marketing Group completes Argyll and the Isles jigsaw
    Im disappointed that i wasnt the first to post, although im pleased that im such a catch, should i be honoured or scared?
  • Emergence of Kintyre and Gigha Marketing Group completes Argyll and the Isles jigsaw
    At last, thank you for encouragement and taking a step to consider what I have written (hoping it is genuine of course).

    The frustrating thing about the AISTP is that they are around 10 years behind the natural progression and requirements of marketing focusing on items that do not provide the necessary strategy to deliver prosperity to Argyll, as Alan Sugar stated this evening “you need to take good businesses to the USA as they are good at venture capitalism”, and I agree, there is no enterprise support structure in Argyll and nothing that considers and supports existing growth businesses, nothing of any discernable value anyway.

    The funding mechanism is also wrong, not to mention that the AISTP have chosen to get alot of their work paid for out of Argyll, as have Tarbert Harbour and Tarbert & Skipness Trust, millions of pounds if all lumped together with no jobs, no apprenticeships and no immediate impact in tourism.

    I can’t begin to go over the intricacies of modern marketing, business ethics, economics and growth strategies within rural environments, but what i can say is that there is an eggs and basket scenario that is unhealthy.

    I would love to know why AISTP operates anti-competitively, why arent they using local businesses, why are some businesses excluded, why do they attract funding for flawed marketing yet anyone else in the industry of any form is left out to dry that has a better (and more sustainable product)?

    Im unlikely to get any answers but in the last four or five years all I have heard is there is no money, no money, yet there has not been one large home grown export business that is sustainable and can support exponential growth of product manufacture, export, delivery and jobs. Loch Fyne Oyster bar which was the areas flagship even had huge debts and had to be sold to a Chinese company to stay trading I am to understand.

    Its this information that does not give me confidence in what is being delivered, and Argyll continually overlooks normal everyday people who have great ideas, great products and most of all there is a plagiouristic operation which removes all credit from people who create and develop ideas.

    Im afraid to say that there are some disappointing comparisions in Argyll, do you think its ok for the Cairnbaan Hotel to be involved in Heart of Argyll which is a conflict of interest, im sure if the hotel was in Oban they wouldnt be involved, yet I am not allowed the same opportunity to promote and provide a successful business.

    Life isn’t fair we know that, Argyll life verges on the comical based on social connections rather than an acceptance that sometimes someone else or someone elses strategy or product is better than the one that exists.

    Probably not much help but covers some points.

  • Emergence of Kintyre and Gigha Marketing Group completes Argyll and the Isles jigsaw
    Not sure i understand, you’ll probably find alot of people dont like me, but alot of people dont like people who speak their mind in an open and honest fashion, i cant abide liars, gamesplayers or con artists, there are plenty of them around thats for sure.

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16 Responses to Is anything being done for the equal opportunities …

  1. Big thanks to For Argyll for traveling down to Edinburgh to see us.
    To all the marketing associations who helped fund this , their unpaid, but brilliant volunteers who turned up, and all the agencies involved….on behalf of Argyll and the Isles…Thanks heaps..what a show!

    The only down side was the clutch on my car blowing up at Lochearnhead on the way home!!

    See you in Glasgow next year!

    Mike

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  2. Sounds as if everything went even better than you could have hoped for. Pity about the clutch – was this Mad Max having his final comment on proceedings?!!!

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  3. Congratulations on what appears to have been a positive experience, but without further ado straight on to serious business.

    How will the performance of the show be measured, how will we know how many of the 200 buyers have actually converted to a sale? (I cant help with wonderful technology like the internet that Expo seems an expensive proposition, particularly for just 200 potential clients) How will this be reported and how will conversion values be ascertained. Where are the buyers from, what markets, and what areas are likely to benefit from the 200 contacts, I estimate it will be Inveraray and Oban AGAIN this year with Kintyre and Knapdale well and truly left out of the visitor agenda, if not avoided altogether. What representation did Kintyre and Knapdale have at Expo please?

    Success isn’t measured in feel good factor and smiles, if that’s a measure of success, we have much to be worried about.

    It might look good on paper, but when these 200 clients come to Argyll and see half the place up for sale, no jobs, no opportunities, no business support, boarded up buildings, severe states of disrepair such as appalling roads, and activities businesses closed or inaccessible, I can guarantee they wont be back again – i bet you didnt tell your potential clients that (trade descriptions act still applies Mike by the way! I do hope the product you were pitching was accurate.)

    Seems to me like its easier for things like that to be ignored as inconsequential, but surely we should be dealing with the problems we face before we start trying to get thousands of people here to look at for sale signs, that to me says we have real problems, people can’t sell up quick enough (not everyone, but a large concerning number).

    I’m sure this will probably get ignored or answered selectively, but I wouldn’t be gloating just yet, if Argyll cannot get big businesses to setup in Argyll without huge government incentives, it is unlikely that tourism operators will be any different being bunged all sorts in return for low value business.

    Will it be show or no show… time will tell…

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  4. Nick,
    How about a good old fashioned dose of positivity and encouragement.

    After all, many of the people who are part of this group, I believe, are unpaid and doing this out of their passion and drive for this area. Spending their own time and money to give their support.

    There is a lot to promote in Argyll and the Isles. Can you really guarantee visitors who come to the area won’t come back again? They wouldn’t even come if the group were to highlight all the negative points you have mentioned.

    Getting stuck into this group with your tirade is not beneficial and highlights the exact problems that can exist within many regions. It is true that in business, everything needs to be measured. I can bet with the level of industry leaders in this group, the ROI will be analysed to the extreme.

    Not everyone in Argyll has your negative attitude. Some of us are delighted that a hugely influential group of industry leaders, with boundiful business experience have come together to ‘highlight’ and promote exactly what Argyll and the Isles has to offer.

    Thank goodness people with your ‘black cloud’ thinking are not plentiful, otherwise initiatives like this would never have got off the ground.

    Has anyone told you, in tourism, a smile goes a long way? Maybe you need to get out more and meet the people with the smiles and the healthy attitudes.

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    • Thankyou for the character assessment, or should i say assassination.

      On the contrary to the above assessment, i have a positive attitude, but i am a realist and to make positive change it is essential to identify the negatives. It just seems to me that Argyll doers have a habit of bathing in positivity regardless of results, this is one occasion where i believe that self praise has not been earnt yet.

      Further to the offensive ‘black cloud’ remark, im sure that those who suffer from depression, mental illness, or perhaps people who have taken their own lives in Argyll, and other places would be deeply offended by your remark. Which adequately demonstrates my point, that once again issues that need addressing are overlooked because they do not fit in with the positive attitude of those influential people, i see the ‘black cloud’ way of thinking as a positive not a negative, after all it takes people like us to step in and sort out the mess that other positive thinkers leave behind.

      Again in response to ‘tirade’, serious questions are being asked and continue to go unanswered , i would categorise it as being persistent, certainly not abusive, are they important? That is entirely irrelevant, if all of us are being asked to place our faith in people to do a job that i think some of us can do better then of course our queries should be answered, certainly it is a responsibility of the group to deliver information for public scrutiny.

      Do you know what, im not even going to bother to continue responding, your words show politeness, but conceal offence, its clear Argyll and the AISTP cant accept criticism, thoughts or opinions that differ to their own…. Capitalist Dictatorship in action again…

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    • Is anything being done for the equal opportunities and benefit of all Argyll areas? Perhaps thats why they are letting the roads get so bad, so that everyone has to come by boat! ;)

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    • Hello Scots renewable!

      Yes indeed, AISTP is a consultee on the Oban Chord discussions and have encouraged the development of step ashore marinas in Oban. We have also contributed to and encouraged the development of the waterfront and a transport hub, through any TIFF arrangements.

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  5. I think a big ‘well done’ is due to the folks behind Argyll and the Isles for the launch of their smartfone App. I downloaded the Android version earlier this week thanks to a Google Alert popping something into my mailbox.

    Finally, a unique and actually useful initiative designed for people visiting. I’m impressed.

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  6. Grant, not sure that this was/is an Argyll & the Isles initiative as per the rest of this thread. It would appear to be a private venture but I may be mistaken (as it needs clarified). Another point would be that I’m not 100% sure its a local app developer, unlike others we have with the skillset in our region. On the positive, it is really encouraging development as publicly funded organisations & projects such as Argyll & Isles Tourism should stimulate investment from private sector, esp in improving the quality of product and the marketing of a product. They should not displace such activity, so lets hope this is an Argyll & Isles development and we don’t end up with another mobile optimised website or app etc. Well done to Catriona and anyone else that has supported this.

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  7. Daniel
    A story yesterday in the local Dunoon paper clarified it.

    The APP was developed by MarineBlast, a company based in Dunoon. They’re the same folk responsible for the successful Apps for the leisure marine industry in the UK.

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