Perhaps the Council’s computer hamster is helping out …

Comment posted Council planning site crashes in run up to deadline on submissions on Oban transit marina by Crazy She-Bat.

Perhaps the Council’s computer hamster is helping out in the media office just now and is a little overworked? :lol:

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  • Obviously there are far too many computers logging on from Kazakstan :)

Recent comments by Crazy She-Bat

  • PHEW. Scotland can sleep easy. Alan Reid says we can keep the pound.
    Oh well, if Alan says so, it must be true!

    I really don’t know what all the stramash is about anyway – we already have our own Scottish money as anyone who has ever tried to pay for something in England with a Bank of Scotland note will testify.

    “Aye, I got it fae a game a monopoly”

  • Usain Bolt, the Times report and the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games
    I really don’t give a sh** if Usain Bolt said “sh**” – big deal.

    Its not what I will remember when looking back at the Games in years to come. I was, admittedly, on the warpath when I was unable to get tickets and was hearing of loads of people who had tickets to 7 different events. I did almost run for the hills when the tartan puke-fest team outfits were unveiled (please let them wear something else for the closing ceremony!). The cringeworthy first sequence of the opening ceremony almost had me choking on my Tunnock’s teacake, but my family and I have been glued to the tv for the last week watching as many sports as we can. My kids have been going outside to play “Commonwealth Athletes” and have made their own little exercise regime. We’ve cheered on Scottish athletes, supported the others, not booed the English, even got a bit choked up last night seeing Hampden rocking to the Proclaimers (I hope that was seen by billions!).

    Thing is, I have rarely felt so proud to be Scottish. I really don’t care about the semantics of if its Glasgow or Scotland’s games – the point is they have been excellent and a great advert for our country.

    I’m proud to be Scottish. Proud to be from one of the “Home Nations” – and I am still voting “Yes”. I want decisions about my country made by people I’ve elected, not by English, Welsh & Northern Irish MPs – no offence to any of them. Sport has nothing to do with it.

    Our country, our decisions.

  • No nationalist politicisation of the Games?
    I do agree with you in one respect Sceptic. Why have a Proclaimers song performed without the Proclaimers? Surely, we could have afforded the real thing!
  • No nationalist politicisation of the Games?
    I stand corrected, however, I did watch it live and don’t remember seeing half of those shots. I can admit this is perhaps my error as it wasn’t until the following day, a video taken from within the crowd went out on social media that looks as if there is a great deal more flags. If I can find the video again, I will post a link.

    I did forget to say in my original post, maybe Newsie could investigate the reports that the MOD were asked to provide a helicopter to fly over Parkhead so Salmond could jump out James Bond style with a big saltire parachute with “Yes” on it?

  • No nationalist politicisation of the Games?
    Wow! Been so busy hiding in the hills from the tartan overdose I missed this article!

    Maybe because I am probably one of the commenters who lives a bit nearer to Glasgow than most, I have a completely different take on this?

    1. Opening ceremony – Cringetastic! Highlights were the games being opened by 2 openly gay people and a male/male kiss seen by billions around the world. Although Karen “Shotgun Nostrils” Dunbar does my head in, it was a good idea to have them open the games considering its illegal to be gay in 42 of the 53 Commonwealth Countries. I also hear Eck has the rainbow flag flying instead of the saltire for the duration of the games.

    2. Red, white and blue over the Girodome. Most Weegies see a totally different symbolism in this.

    3. Wheel out the oldest, wrinkliest, auld duffer you can find to prove Scots are not genetically wired to die before they are 50. No I don’t mean Sir Chris Hoy’s uncle, I’m talking Rod Stewart. Sounds no bad for a guy that gargles with razor blades.

    If you really want a story – ask yourselves why the Scottish crowd’s reaction to our team entering the stadium was not shown on the BBC? I’ve seen video on the dreaded Social Media of that moment and there is a sea of Saltires and Lion Rampants being waved all over the stadium. Why wasn’t that shown?

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16 Responses to Perhaps the Council’s computer hamster is helping out …

  1. Notwithstanding the above ‘news’ article, it can not be denied there were many against the proposals for a marina in the iconic site between the piers for well documented reasons, some of which featured on here several times. Tha is a fact similarly there are many for the dvelpoment in that location.

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  2. Call me cynical, but I would not be surprised if all the comments were lost.

    There are a lot of mysteries surrounding this application.

    ~ Why was it necessary to scrap all comments on the previous (virtually identical) application?

    ~ Why were previous commenters informed by letter rather than e-mail?

    ~ Why did it (in my case anyway) take two weeks from the time the letter was dated to it being delivered, so that it arrievd towards the end of the 28 day consultation period with only a few days left?

    ~ Is it coincidence that the server collapsed on a Monday morning when staff arrived to find an influx of positive comments on the application?

    ~ Why at midday Tuesday – the last day for consultation – is it still impossible to comment?

    ~ There were 117 public comments on this application last time I looked. Will they all be there when/if the site is restored?

    ~ In view of the server downtime will additional time for consultation be granted?

    Given the Council’s previous history of chicanery and manipulation involving any proposals for a marina in Oban, I think this whole matter needs careful looking at.

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  3. Crazy,

    There were 100 submissions made over the weekend. I have every reason to believe that the vast majority of these were in support of the application.

    It would be nice to think that this is a random database crash, but the consultation period expires in a few hours and it would be awfully convenient for those on the Council who have set their face intransigently against any marina for so many years to have all this support just disappear.

    (There is also every reason to believe that, with the word out, more submissions in support would have been forthcoming yesterday and today, which is why even if the data is recovered the consultation period needs to be extended)

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    • The idea that the planning website would have been ‘doctored’ is not credible, and conspiracy theorists should save their efforts for more credible scenarios.

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      • A database server crash is hardly ‘doctoring’ – I just wonder what caused it, and whether or not the data was backed up.

        There have been enough twists and turns in the history of this particular project to provide material for a whole convention of conspiracy theorists.

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  4. If the database is unavailable then the deadline will have to be extended, otherwise the full 28 days has not been made available for comments.

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  5. To be fair, the planning department is usually pretty flexible as regards comment deadlines. In practice they will keep validating comments long after the ‘official’ deadline has expired, though obviously not beyond the point at which the officer’s report is issued. This is usually some time after the deadline, especially in the bigger or more controversial applications.

    I don’t know how the statutory requirements apply to website availability. The plans can still be viewed in the usual places, and comments sent in by letter or email.

    If comments have been lost by the system, that’s obviously another matter.

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  6. I have just been reliably informed that A&BC say they have all comments up to the point where the website went down. They say there were around 120 comments at that point.

    There is a notice outlining an alternative way to submit comments on the ‘ search for a planning application’ page thus:

    Please note: we are currently experiencing problems with our online planning and building standards system. We hope to have this up and running again as soon as possible. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. If you would like to make a comment on a planning application, please email us at: centralvalidationteam@argyll-bute.gov.uk . If you are looking for more information on a planning application, please call us on 01546 605518

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    • …and I need to recant what I said at post 7, as the doors have been firmly closed on further comments.

      OK, it seems that the council has written to all commentors yesterday to say that the application has been withdrawn (hence the barring of further comments.)

      It has been re-submitted with a new reference number and a small technical change. All comments received will now have to be sent in again with the new reference.

      PS update – the above is all mince – see post below.

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      • What?

        You are joking aren’t you? This is what happened before and everyone was made to send their comments in again. How many people are going to bother sending them in a 3rd time?

        As far as I can see the site is still up and running and accepting comments – there are now 150 comments.

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        • Webcraft – no joke, but my (and partly your) mistake – your link above connects to the withdrawn application, not the current one.

          Not helped by the council website showing the document date for the withdrawal letters as 25th April, when the letters themselves were dated 5th April…

          Apologies!

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