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FABULOUS result.
We couldn’t be more delighted – or more respectfully grateful to readers who have gone around some inventive corners to help Pierre Primot in his quest for Taiseer V’s plans.
Thanks to all of you.
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- We’re sure our readers will keep thinking about this for you.
And we’re delighted that David Hutchinson was so quick to reply to you. - Many thanks for this very helpful advice. We have drawn M Primot’s attention to it.
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- Minutes of today’s meeting of ‘Concerned Councillors’ Group
The information is not unconfirmed. It is utterly authentic.
The venue was in Lochgilphead and yes, we admit to being more concerned with the content that the venue.
This does not mean that you are wrong – and there is indeed an additional interest in the session being held outside Kilmory. - Minutes of today’s meeting of ‘Concerned Councillors’ Group
Duplicate salaries would not be possible within the rules.
This would be a matter of sharing the leader’s salary three ways for the duration of the triumvirate. - NOW – 21.00: BBC 2′s ‘Town’ with Nicholas Crane visits Oban
Wasn’t it fantastic – history – and with Catherine Gillies at Dunollie as mercifuly crisp as a brandy snap; the entrepreneurial spirit; the landscape; the seascapes; the island connections; the uniquely beautiful waterfront location that actually addresses its waterfront; the thrilling, mad and testosterone-packed outdoor activities born from the natural resources of a place like this; the masculine industry at Glensanda; the great food; the great music….
Now it all has to be made to be true all of the time.
There was that honest and fundamentally worrying glance at the shops for sale and to let, the shabby properties… and we all know there could have been more of this.
But this programme reminded us all of the core value to Argyll of the unique asset of Oban.
The warmth of the programme should not make us complacent that all is well with Oban – but absolutely determined to get it up to speed and keep it developing. - Minutes of today’s meeting of ‘Concerned Councillors’ Group
The SNP group are clearly unable to progress what they had already agreed at the earlier meeting on 16th May. All of them seem to be totally unable to agree to anything. “Impotent’ gets nowhere near the reality.
The paralysis bears witness to the situation we have already published – that the SNP party now requires its councillors to submit their intentions in advance for signing off [or not] by either the local MSP or an NEC member – and the SNP Constituency Association Convener.
The minutes also bear witness to what we said this morning – that they were squabbling amongst themselves and getting nowhere.
What no one could have imagined – nor would we have dared to publish it – was that we would be getting a New Way hydra as leader.
A triple headed short term leadership with three very different heads – Duncan MacIntyre, Michael Breslin and Vivien Dance.
Did someone say something the other day about popcorn and a seat in the front row?
The difference between the clued up and the clueless revealed in these minutes could not be sharper – and the frustration of the clued up is manifest.
It’s dreadfully funny – but you have to feel real sympathy for Councillor Walsh. Follow him through the minutes and you get the picture. - Serenissima waits for higher tide – and she has had earlier identities
We are, of course aware of that.
Watching at the time, what we saw her do was make marked changes of course over a short distance, some times at 90 degrees and at one point turning through 180 degrees three times in a row.
While some of this could have swinging to tide and current, the repetitions did seem to suggest controlled activity.
And it was only when she settled that her AIS recorded ‘At Anchor.’
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David Hutchinson, if there is someone who’s where you would get plans it will be David, he has a outstanding knowledge of almost every boat that came out the yard and will be a great help to you restoring it.
Enjoy the project great to see historic boats being cared for.
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Many thanks for this very helpful advice. We have drawn M Primot’s attention to it.
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Thank you very much.
I sent an Email, I’m waiting for the answer impatiently…
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The answer just arrived. Unfortunately David Hutchinson has no plan concerning Fair Judgment III ex Taiseer V.
I keep my quest.
Many thanks
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We’re sure our readers will keep thinking about this for you.
And we’re delighted that David Hutchinson was so quick to reply to you.
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Might want to try contacting Toward Sailing Club. There are a few members of the Robertson family there that may be able to point you in the right direction.
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Many thanks for the advice. I’ll contact the Club.
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If Taiseer V was built to Lloyds 100A1 (which is likely, but I don’t have my old copy of the Lloyds Register with me to check)(or even a lesser Lloyds Classification) then plans will have had to be submitted to Lloyds who would have overseen the construction.
It is very likely these plans are still held by Lloyds.
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I’ll contact Lloyd’s Office. Thank You
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I was suffering in the rain around Tower Hill, lunch time today, and decided to pop into Lloyds Register to have a look in the library, and get out of the wet.
Yes Taiseer V/Fair Judgment III was registered +100A1 at Lloyds, until the suvey due in May 1978 was missed.
Unfortunately that ends the goods news. Lloyds say that they don’t have a copy of the plans….they were very helpful.
Fair Judgement III was owned for a number of years by Peter Carter-Ruck, a well known lawyer of his day. Unfortunately he died in 2003, so that trail is cold.
The last registered owner in Lloyds was Pitcher & Scott, Civil Engineers. They were registered in Scotland but appear to have been dissolved.
End of trail, though I’ll ask my son, who works in the industry, whether he has any ideas.
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You are very helpful
Many thanks
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Latest in the search, from my son
“It would appear that the unofficial C&N archivist is a chap called Jeremy Lines, though I believe from one contact that the drawings are in Greenwich. I am awaiting more info.
jeremy@linesmail.net
Or Google ; Jeremy Lines C&N archivist”
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Great!!!!
I’ll contact him
Thanks a lot.
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Jeremy Lines should be a good source of information, he was on the C&N design staff. The plans may be in the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, but other places to try are the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, one of the main archives in West Scotland, and the National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh. Carter-Ruck’s firm is still in existence in London, you could try them as well.
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Thank you for the advice
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Thanks a lot everybody, you’ve been very helpful.
The set of plans is in the National Maritime Museum.
Thank you again
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FABULOUS result.
We couldn’t be more delighted – or more respectfully grateful to readers who have gone around some inventive corners to help Pierre Primot in his quest for Taiseer V’s plans.
Thanks to all of you.
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Received the following from Pierre Primot
“Here it is.
The available plans in the National Maritime Museum arrived at home.
They’ll be helpful during the restoration.
Thank you again for your help”
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