Its a b###dy mess. Far too complicated for …

Comment posted Ewan Kennedy on the Single Transferable Vote by phill.

Its a b###dy mess. Far too complicated for an important event like local(binding) elections. In this case Donald Melville surely suffered and just seems wrong, and this would doubtless be replicated the length and bredth of the country.
Time to get back to individual councillors for each ward as more folk standing these days due to reasonable salary and expenses. For democracy to be seen to be done it must be understood, and currently its far from that.
I daresay no particular party suffered more than others but thats not to exonerate this daft system.
thanks for your explanation mind you Ewan.

Recent comments by phill

  • Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
    Soroba lad, many would agree with your opinion (myself included) re tha marina, in my case due to the unique location that i beleve would have been spoilt. However, many of the individuals mentioned in your comment have done a great deal for the employment in Oban for generations in some cases, allthough you may be correct about undue influence in the case of others. Maybe need to tone down your choice of words though as name calling as you have displayed has no place in debate.
    Very good point about the bus drop off point.
  • Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
    Think we’re all agreed on the Ganavan situation. So sad, but i think it has made the community at large sit up and take note for future concerns.
  • Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
    Spot on Sir. The ‘gangsters’ are well known, and have won every previous battle, all well documented, But thank God we have Concillors who will not be bullied by the would be mafia, and represent their constituents, simple aint it. OBM jog on and good luck.
  • Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
    Agreed ‘longjohn’ as to location,location,location which has never been discussed, in respect of the local/non mariner view to preserve the beauty of Oban Bay including seaweed (fancy there being seaweed on a beach!!!)
  • Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
    Lots of good points, but basically wrong location.

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3 Responses to Its a b###dy mess. Far too complicated for …

  1. I am not convinced that this method returns a result a lot more representative of the voters intention than a process in which the electors merely chose three candidates.

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    • Its a b###dy mess. Far too complicated for an important event like local(binding) elections. In this case Donald Melville surely suffered and just seems wrong, and this would doubtless be replicated the length and bredth of the country.
      Time to get back to individual councillors for each ward as more folk standing these days due to reasonable salary and expenses. For democracy to be seen to be done it must be understood, and currently its far from that.
      I daresay no particular party suffered more than others but thats not to exonerate this daft system.
      thanks for your explanation mind you Ewan.

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  2. I am not a fan of any system that is not intelligible to your typical voter. And this one is not. But we’re stuck with it for a while, is my guess.
    For a fantastic explanation you should check out the blog of “Lallands Peat Worrier”. He has produced a really helpful analysis of the Glasgow seats – and this link is an example. The charts are so helpful, and his commentary, albeit from an SNP perspective, interesting.
    http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/craigton-govan-pollokshields-vol-ii-of.html
    He also provided a quasi-academic explanation of the whole STV system prior to the elections here: http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/rank-local-election-wonkery-glasgow.html
    Enjoy!

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