Comment posted 2012 Scottish Islands Peaks Race Oban to Troon – just finished by Peter MacKenzie.
Who is “Jack Aubrey”? Could there be such a coincidence that our “marine professionals” cheerleader actually has the same monicker as that murderous, belligerent, Napoleonic War nutter played by Russell Crowe? Maybe he has Aubrey-like anger issues. Or is he just a wannabe hard man? In fact, I’m beginning to see some very disturbing connections here … I surely hope he’s never given charge of so much as a kayak, far less a ship.
Use your real name, man, and have a proper reasoned discussion if you’re capable of it. Dismantle my interpretation of the International Rules for the Prevention of Collision at Sea if you can, and BTW, your opinion might carry some weight if you wouldn’t hide behind a rather pathetic pseudonym. What happened last week was real world, not fantasy.
Nothing in the collision regs says that commercial shipping has any rights over anyone else. If you can’t accept that then I hope you never take charge of anything that floats because you’ll plainly be a menace.
Peter MacKenzie also commented
- Pharos may claim simply colreg Rule 9, the right “not to be impeded” by sailing vessels under 20 metres length in a narrow channel.
At nautical college, my lecturer, former NLB master of the old 1950s built Pharos as it happens, emphasised that the over-riding essence of the colregs is that you must take every action possible to avoid collision, and with all due regard for the circumstances.
I think Rules 7 and 8 may have some relevance. Rule 7, Risk of Collision: was there a risk of collison? Most certainly, yes, many times over. Why? Because when Pharos left her berth, the channel, and indeed much of the rest of the bay, was congested, full of slow, close-hauled and tacking sailing vessels. And let’s not forget that from the perspective of the yacht skippers, there would be colregs obligations to contend with between the 50 sailing boats too.
Rule 8, Action to Avoid Collision, “8(e) If necessary to avoid collision or allow more time to assess the situation, a vessel may slacken her speed or take all way off by stopping or reversing her means of propulsion.” (Or even remain at your berth for a few minutes longer?) Obligations on a right of way vessel “8(f) (iii) A vessel the passage of which is not to be impeded remains fully obliged to comply with the rules of this part when the two vessels are approaching one another so as to involve risk of collision.” The essence of Rule 8 is, don’t get into a close quarters situation, regardless of who is right, and if you do, then avoiding collision takes over from the right not to be impeded.
Rule 13, Overtaking “13)a) … any vessel overtaking any other shall keep out of the way of the vessel being overtaken.” Difficult when that’s vessels x 50 to be overtaken in a narrow channel and all are constrained by draught, even assuming they’re trying not to impede you.
Finally, Rule 34, sound signals, “34(d) When … either vessel fails to understand the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision, the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle.” Since it seem as though there was a lot of failure to understand intentions or actions, perhaps the sailing vessels should have given 5 blasts when Pharos was leaving the NLB pier.
Edit – to cut through any irony in the above, I believe Pharos should not have gotten under way if it was obvious what she was heading out into. And given the view avaialble to her from the lighthouse pier, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t crystal clear.
- I echo Robert’s view. Pharos’s performance is in stark contrast to that of the Cal Mac outer isles ferry which meets the race fleet every year just outside Dunollie and invariably keeps well clear and shows patience and the short few minutes of forebearance required. And unlike Pharos, the ferry doesn’t have dynamic positioning systems that can balance it on a penny.
Recent comments by Peter MacKenzie
- NOW – 21.00: BBC 2′s ‘Town’ with Nicholas Crane visits Oban
Yes, and a series about the “British” Coast won’t include the Irish coast. Or the Dutch coast, or Belgian, or Swedish, or Danish, or …. Oh, wait a minute.
If the way I’m going to vote on my country’s constitution hinges on how the outcome might influence the whims, preferences and prejudices of entertainment producers, a uniquely shallow breed, then I, in my own shallowness, would scarcely deserve the right to have a say in the matter.
(I’m looking forward to catching up on Town on iplayer. It’s an interesting docu-lite series. It won’t influence this floating voter one iota.)
- NOW – 21.00: BBC 2′s ‘Town’ with Nicholas Crane visits Oban
- Oban lifeboat to cruise ship aground in Oban Bay
I’ve watched a couple of boats, also foreign as it happens, run onto the Corran Ledge. I’ve no doubt the bay’s three closely spaced cardinal buoys coupled with the problem of dealing with other marine traffic in very narrow channels leads the stranger into momentary disorientation, and that’s all it takes. Maybe a different buoyage sequence is in order for the northern entrance.
- Walsh to lead all but Lib Dems, Conservatives and George Freeman
Perfect summary. I wonder where the thumbs down are coming from.
Tens of millions straight down the drain on vainglorious ego trips. And then people wonder why care homes have to be shut to save comparatively paltry sums. Simple: Walsh & Co spent it, it’s gone, it’s not coming back.
Come the Glorious Day, as Wolfie Smith would say.
- First Minister’s choice not to condemn mob behaviour proves Farage point
I won’t be voting for UKIP but Scotland badly needs a counterbalance to the lazy, obsolete, consensus statism which is ingrained in the DNA of the SNP/Labour/Libdem and even the Conservative body politic.
When Scottish politicians are happy to dole out, as they do for example, half million salaries to “directors” of wee diddy councils and third of a million salaries to principals of fourth division universities, then it’s a mark of where their statist priorities lie and either they’ve completely lost the plot or I have. These are not the enterprising business leaders that many claim to be; they’re tax collectors, supervisors of mundane public services and disbursers of taxpayers’ funds, their roles and responsibilities barely changed from the days, not so long ago, when they were modestly salaried County Clerks and Burgh Chamberlains, people who were generally content to sacrifice quite a bit of private sector salary for public sector security. And University Principals were sinecured figureheads whose organisations, much as now, ran themselves. (Incidentally, remuneration on this scale of such jobs is a UK phenomenon and completely out of line with what would be paid elsewhere in northern Europe.)
Repeat ad nauseam across the Scottish public sector. How on earth did we get to this position? How do we remedy it?
A dose of libertarian scrutiny might at least bring such things into focus. What prospect of that from any of the current bunch?
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