Tamarto, You appear to be applying a whole brain …

Comment posted ARSN statement on school meals issue by Integrity? Not in the CondemAll.

Tamarto,

You appear to be applying a whole brain to this. Remember Simon only wants people with half a brain to consider it, which may explain his support of the previous administration.

For the record the press release was written before we contacted Mary Jean Devon with the obvious exception of the last two paragraphs which couldn’t be written until we had got Cllr Devon’s response. If she had responded that she wasn’t going to bother looking into it we would have criticised her for that stance.

Simon likes to carry on claiming we are an SNP sub group – if it keeps him in material then so be it but the truth of the matter (as has been stated on here many times before) is that we are not a political group, not affiliated to a political group and have contrasting political beliefs within our membership.

Somehow or other we all get on and reach democratic conclusion on what we should do.

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    Apologies for the delay responding, I only just noticed your response. You are correct that there is some flexibility which is why I said predominantly. There are always gray areas over whether an item is revenue expenditure or capital expenditure and I would wager there isn’t a council in the country who don’t have some revenue expenditure funded from capital.

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7 Responses to Tamarto, You appear to be applying a whole brain …

  1. ARNS and the local SNP are of course bosom buddies and it is likely that the carefully worded statement from ARSN was rehearsed with just as carefully with Mary-Jean prior to it being made public.

    That said I too look forward to the conclusion of Mary-Jean’s enquiry because the conclusion she comes to will tell us all a great deal about what we can expect from this new administration. If Mary Jean’s decision is not published on For Argyll I’ll conclude her enquiry did not turn out the way FA and ARSN wanted it to.

    Anyone with half a brain investigating this ‘issue’ will conclude – either you don’t give the kids a choice but if you do – then don’t be surprised when some of them make poor choices – they are only kids after all.

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    • I don’t know how old you are, Simon – though I have my suspicions – but in my time there was no meal choice, it was generally ‘like it or lump it’ and we generally liked it (I think it was all part of the learning process). Having said that, there was some resentment – one of my friends was in the habit of using the school gravy to slick his hair, and personally I never did get used to ‘Yorkshire Pudding’ (with the aforementioned gravy) reappearing, adorned with custard and jam, as ‘Victoria Sponge’. Happy days.

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    • What is wrong with giving them healthy options to choose between? Why does the choice have to be healthy or unhealthy?

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    • Tamarto,

      You appear to be applying a whole brain to this. Remember Simon only wants people with half a brain to consider it, which may explain his support of the previous administration.

      For the record the press release was written before we contacted Mary Jean Devon with the obvious exception of the last two paragraphs which couldn’t be written until we had got Cllr Devon’s response. If she had responded that she wasn’t going to bother looking into it we would have criticised her for that stance.

      Simon likes to carry on claiming we are an SNP sub group – if it keeps him in material then so be it but the truth of the matter (as has been stated on here many times before) is that we are not a political group, not affiliated to a political group and have contrasting political beliefs within our membership.

      Somehow or other we all get on and reach democratic conclusion on what we should do.

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  2. Ahhh Simon, Simon, Simon…

    How was Tiree? Were you working on the Array? ;)

    Knew you wouldn’t be able to let this article pass without a swipe comment. Deflecting the issue, you are even more predictable than me.

    However, a recap. There are 2 issues here:

    The quality/quantity of school dinners at LJC. Hmmmm a big school possibly struggling to cope with the amount of pupils (430-ish) all to be fed in an hour. Yes we are most interested to find this out, especially after the Council refused to acknowledge there may be issues with this when it was discussed during the school closures.

    The second issue being the absolutely appalling and immature reaction of staff in their response and blaming a wee girl. NOT ON!

    Malcolm McFadyen in particular needing a few courses in children’s rights and tact to say the least.

    We want confident learners? Aye just as long as they don’t complain, then they’ll set big Malky on you!

    And yes we are friends with the SNP… and Argyll First and a bunch of Independents too. Do you honestly think that I would miss the opportunity of complaining if they start failing in the same way the last administration did?

    Have a nice afternoon :)

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    • Looking at her blog now,it seems Martha is eating heartily. That’s great news and is exactly what should have happened right at the start. A round of applause for the people who sorted it out, whoever they are.

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