Maybe Donald’s not so much representing the Conservative …

Comment posted Council Elections: the tally in Argyll and Bute by Robert Wakeham.

Maybe Donald’s not so much representing the Conservative party as just stating that he’s a Conservative voter in national politics – after all, presumably the vast majority of independent local politicians vote for one of the main parties at national level, but think that national party policies might be unnecessarily constricting – or inappropriate – when dealing with local issues at local level. I know this will be interpreted by some as just ducking the issue of committing to specific policies, and that this has been the core problem with the behaviour of Walsh & Co, but it’s surely a valid viewpoint for those local politicians who do have integrity.

Robert Wakeham also commented

  • And the wonder is that at the same time that Keith Brown is trumpeting the benefits of Serco as northern isles ferry operator he’s silent on the shambles that is SPT’s Kilcreggan ferry service. It’s obviously the big picture that counts, the small communities can go to hell.
  • Has anyone heard the rumour that Robin Currie, Donnie McMillan and Rory Colville are forming a breakaway independent group of councillors, ‘Argyll Worst’, with the primary intention of aligning themslves with whatever group can offer them extra perks in the form of financial benefit for chairing committees etc, of nodding when told to, of conveniently forgetting whatever promises they’ve made their electorates, and of formation flipflopping at their leader’s command?

Recent comments by Robert Wakeham

  • Will Luing’s Atlantic Islands Centre get consent for Spanish or Slate Isles roofing slate?
    ‘This is a fairly long, but readable report….’ – so why should the committee only get a very short time period to read & digest the report, and then formulate an opinion?
    Do you think that speed reading and making up their minds on the spur of the moment are good practice for councillors?
    It’s local democracy, Spock, but not as any halfway intelligent person knows it.
  • Will Luing’s Atlantic Islands Centre get consent for Spanish or Slate Isles roofing slate?
    Surely we elect our councillors in the expectation that they’ll take carefully considered, informed decisions – and for the expert advice of their council officers to be withheld from them until the actual meeting seems very strange – unless there’s clear justification for this; it either leads to excessively long meetings, or maybe to decisions being ‘railroaded’ through by the administration?
  • Will Luing’s Atlantic Islands Centre get consent for Spanish or Slate Isles roofing slate?
    I think you’re wrong – if it’s down to price, then you could be accused of favouring a supplier who wasn’t the cheapest for the quality of the slate in terms of performance, but if the ‘foreign’ product doesn’t match the appearance of the local slate, then this could be a perfectly valid reason for specifying the local product, or a closer match from elsewhere in Britain, even if it’s more expensive.
    Why should specifying the traditional product involve having to plead ‘exceptional circumstances’?
  • Will Luing’s Atlantic Islands Centre get consent for Spanish or Slate Isles roofing slate?
    ‘Could only happen in Argyll’ – unfortunately not, typical of an increasing range of products that can be found in Scotland / UK, but which aren’t sourced locally in favour of transporting stuff from goodness knows where – it extends from Canadian & Chilean shellfish to Brazilian granite paving – and even IKEA, with its carefully nurtured Swedish image, is mostly stuffed with Chinese products.
  • For Argyll challenge to candidates for Thursday’s Oban North & Lorn by-election
    Surely an age-old problem with democracy – people voting for an idea (be it political party or male / female preference) first, and for a person a very distant second, thus presenting us with a substantial number of low grade politicians.

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17 Responses to Maybe Donald’s not so much representing the Conservative …

  1. Just a query.

    You say that the Conservatives and Unionists have got two seats, as before. The Argyll & Bute website lists four Con&Un councillors: David Kinniburgh, Gary Mulvaney, Maurice Corry & Donald Kelly.

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  2. Unless he did a last minute U turn I thought that Corry, of Lomond North altho’ he lives in Helensburgh, stood as a Conservative.

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    • He did indeed. This was our mistake entirely. All the necessary connections have been made and we apologise to Mr Corry, to the Scottish Conservatives and to readers for the error.
      Mr Corry’s win takes the membership of the Conservative group within the council to 3.

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  3. It is a matter of public record that Donald Kelly declares himself to be a member of the Conservative party but does not join the COnservatove grop in the council.

    He is one of the three founding members of the Argyll First group that really have brought change to the way many voters in Argyll now see local politics.

    His local constituency have nothing withheld from them and have enthusiastically endorsed his position in a triumphant fist place .

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  4. newsroom – I think BFOandC’s point was that Maurice Corry was on the slate as Conservative & Unionist, not independent as you have shown above. There are three Conservatives plus Donald Kelly elected.

    Congratulations to Iain MacDonald in Ward 5 – evidently his driving policy of bringing some ‘glasnost’ to Kilmorograd has struck a chord with the electorate.

    NB Neil MacKay was in Oban North & Lorn, not Oban South & Isles.

    Interesting result overall – if Dunoon returns the same 3 (2 Alliance + 1 SNP) as last time, Alliance+LibDem+Tory will still be unable to form a majority administration, even if both MacDougall & R G Macintyre join them. But then neither would SNP+Argyll First+genuine independents… there will need to be some musical chairs amongst the party groups it would seem.

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  5. Has anyone heard the rumour that Robin Currie, Donnie McMillan and Rory Colville are forming a breakaway independent group of councillors, ‘Argyll Worst’, with the primary intention of aligning themslves with whatever group can offer them extra perks in the form of financial benefit for chairing committees etc, of nodding when told to, of conveniently forgetting whatever promises they’ve made their electorates, and of formation flipflopping at their leader’s command?

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    • And the wonder is that at the same time that Keith Brown is trumpeting the benefits of Serco as northern isles ferry operator he’s silent on the shambles that is SPT’s Kilcreggan ferry service. It’s obviously the big picture that counts, the small communities can go to hell.

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  6. But you can’t be both a Conservative and Argyll First as Donald chooses. Well you can but why do represent a political party if you don’t intend to stand shoulder to shoulder with your fellow party councillors? Saying that Donald is a fine Councillor, arguably the best in Argyll!

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    • Maybe Donald’s not so much representing the Conservative party as just stating that he’s a Conservative voter in national politics – after all, presumably the vast majority of independent local politicians vote for one of the main parties at national level, but think that national party policies might be unnecessarily constricting – or inappropriate – when dealing with local issues at local level. I know this will be interpreted by some as just ducking the issue of committing to specific policies, and that this has been the core problem with the behaviour of Walsh & Co, but it’s surely a valid viewpoint for those local politicians who do have integrity.

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