Comment posted Salmon and Trout Association uses FoI to reveal serious sea bed pollution, corporate negligence and a disengaged SEPA by newsroom.
Anything – if it lets the argument stand clear of distraction. We have substituted the barbel with a photograph of salmon lice.
Apologies for getting the fish wrong.
We’re just hoping that this is not one of those jinxed stories where even the salmon lice in the replacement photo will prove to be lice that affect a rare species found only at the bottom of the Challenger Deep.
Fingers crossed.
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- We don’t know the start date, Hamish – but the reported results are from its first harvesting.
Do we know – do we measure – what the sea lice quota is in the first harvesting of a new UK fish farm?
Three sea lice in an entire harvest has to command respect until UK system data for a first harvest can be shown equal or better.
- Yes we did – but they may be more recent than that.
While we had published earlier articles on this subject, we published not so long ago a series of highly informative research articles by Ewan Kennedy and we think you may have these in mind.
The Search engine on this site is pretty good. If you type in ‘Ewan Kennedy’ it should find these articles for you in the list of returns.
- We saw the comment and did not consciously remove it. But yes – it is not here. Mr MacArthur pointed out that the fish in the photograph is a barbel and not a salmon. Not being anglers, we are in no position to argue and are happy to accept that. The photograph is described by Wikipedia as sea lice on a farmed salmon – and we accepted that.
We chose the image, It was not part of the Salmon and Trout Association’s Report.
But let’s not lose sight of the reality here. Sea lice on a farmed salmon are unlikely to look more palatable than sea lice on a barbel. The point of the report is the failure in compliance of farmed salmon producers to report on the toxic sea bed residues of the chemicals they use to try to contain the prevalence of sea lice – and the failure of SEPA to monitor such activities as they are supposed to do.
Quibbling about the precise fish to which the sea lice are attached in the photograph is a decoy to deflect attention from the potency of the evidence gathered here by the Association under FoI.
Recent comments by newsroom
- Russell to make parliamentary statement on rural schools today
In the circumstances of the destructions of the SNP councillors group in the last 12 months, you can hardly expect credibility elevating the importance of ‘collective’ action?
Being ‘collective’ when it suits one to harvest support from others it not what collectivity or collegiality is about.
And many in Argyll now know more than enough about your party, its councillors, its members, its structures and its wonderfully elastic ‘rules’. - Russell to make parliamentary statement on rural schools today
This was a RESPONSE to a party political slanting of the issue – scoring points in an internal SNP turf war which should never have happened, was consciously manipulated, and has divided a party I voted for and was a member of until relatively recently – when I stopped my subscription in a mixture of anger, despair – and contempt – at what was and is – being done to hopes for better governance in Argyll and Bute.
You might also reflect upon the contradictions inherent in approving of For Argyll for being straight speaking when it suits one agenda and condemning it when what it says – equally objectively, is less comfortable. - Russell to make parliamentary statement on rural schools today
Don’t take this as an argument against rural schools – which it is not.
There is, though, a very real argument about the relative educational and social value of classes as small as one or two.
In being in favour of rural schools, it is still important not to lose sight of good judgement, Nothing is, per se, the right or wrong provision. There’s no formula. It’s a question of context – and there does have to be a point where the best use of available money really is an issue.
The issue centres on an honest examination and presentation of the facts – and of proposed solutions – by all concerned, with no cooking of the books and with due scrutiny to encourage integrity. - First Minister’s call for ‘grown up politics’ countered by order – from the top
What’s ROTFL, J? - Russell to make parliamentary statement on rural schools today
This is a shamefully mischievous argument designed to support the SNP party political line which the substantial majority of its own councillors – 9 out of 11 – reject; and to do so by fostering the division between Argyll and Bute’s four administrative areas that the drivers of the SNP civil war found it useful to create.
Trying to harden up the blame game on Helensburgh is another way of playing the man and not the argument.
The issue is whether political decisions are made for the good of Argyll and Bute as a whole – or in the traditional pic’n'mix disbursement of favours to particular areas, usually to the ones that shout loudest.
What we are now seeing is the move from the vicious demonising of individuals to the demonising of an entire area.
Helensburgh undoubtedly contributes substantially to Argyll – and if you would like to enter into and sustain a serious and informed debate on economics, let’s hear you.
Picking on Helensburgh with accusations of self-interested isolationism ignores utterly the situation where Dunoon is perfectly prepared to see elderly care throughout the rest of Argyll suffer, provided it can keep open a care home which for some time has had a single digit number of residents.
We have ALL to find the will to move beyond this entrenched self-centredness and act in the interests of the greater good.
With this nasty little comment, we appear to be looking at a political prospectus where the union within Argyll and Bute is every bit as unwelcome to SNP activists as is the union within the UK.
So if we keep on reducing the boundaries of the holy land, where will it stop? St Kilda? Now that really is the exemplar of why ‘ourselves alone’ is ultimately inadequate.
Eventually this frightful schismatism you display stops at the skin of the individual and amounts to nothing more than a self-satisfied, narcissistic campaign against everything beyond that personal border.
The best in life, at all levels, comes from teamwork – and no one imagines that teamwork is feel-good easy – just massively rewarding if you make it work.
It ought also to be noted that your own party hierarchy’s instruction to its locally elected representatives, actively removes the opportunity for the majority of Helensburgh councillors to ‘join in’ – unless, of course, your vision of ‘joining in’ is agreeing to what is promulgated in the SNP’s version of ‘the big house’, with plenty of cap doffing.
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Where is Andy MacArthur’s original comment pointing out the barbel angler error?
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We saw the comment and did not consciously remove it. But yes – it is not here. Mr MacArthur pointed out that the fish in the photograph is a barbel and not a salmon. Not being anglers, we are in no position to argue and are happy to accept that. The photograph is described by Wikipedia as sea lice on a farmed salmon – and we accepted that.
We chose the image, It was not part of the Salmon and Trout Association’s Report.
But let’s not lose sight of the reality here. Sea lice on a farmed salmon are unlikely to look more palatable than sea lice on a barbel. The point of the report is the failure in compliance of farmed salmon producers to report on the toxic sea bed residues of the chemicals they use to try to contain the prevalence of sea lice – and the failure of SEPA to monitor such activities as they are supposed to do.
Quibbling about the precise fish to which the sea lice are attached in the photograph is a decoy to deflect attention from the potency of the evidence gathered here by the Association under FoI.
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Right. Why let facts get in the way of a good story eh?
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Aye, picture of a freshwater fish with freshwater lice.
Give us a break – put up a salmon’s picture with our without lice. Jings
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Anything – if it lets the argument stand clear of distraction. We have substituted the barbel with a photograph of salmon lice.
Apologies for getting the fish wrong.
We’re just hoping that this is not one of those jinxed stories where even the salmon lice in the replacement photo will prove to be lice that affect a rare species found only at the bottom of the Challenger Deep.
Fingers crossed.
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Typical editorial bias – the only really important thing is whether the salmon lice vote SNP, LibDem, or ‘independent’ – and whether they’re expert in the relative benefits of wind energy vs nuclear power.
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Did ForArgyll publish two reports about a year ago which discussed the non-compliance of fish farms to lay an area dormant after so many years and allow it to recover?
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Yes we did – but they may be more recent than that.
While we had published earlier articles on this subject, we published not so long ago a series of highly informative research articles by Ewan Kennedy and we think you may have these in mind.
The Search engine on this site is pretty good. If you type in ‘Ewan Kennedy’ it should find these articles for you in the list of returns.
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Is it right that the Canadian floating closed containment farm system has only been trialed since Jan 2011? Is this the system that the report compares with the current UK system?
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We don’t know the start date, Hamish – but the reported results are from its first harvesting.
Do we know – do we measure – what the sea lice quota is in the first harvesting of a new UK fish farm?
Three sea lice in an entire harvest has to command respect until UK system data for a first harvest can be shown equal or better.
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I ‘d like to encourage the use of locally produced farmed salmon at all publicly funded junkets. It’s an ideal opportunity to showcase a tasty and nutritious foodstuff the production of which is of significant benefit to the local economy. That there is the possibility of a residue of emamectin benzoate which is so effective in targeting and eliminating thick skinned parasites would not, I think, be a matter of much public concern.
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