Important subject spoiled by aggressive undertones of point …

Comment posted License charges for performances in Argyll and Bute: Russell warns of cultural threat by Iain Hurrel.

Important subject spoiled by aggressive undertones of point scoring against previous administration. Im very sure you would not have writen that, knowing that you have not already sorted it out.

Maybe you could now move on to the ferries and sort that out. However always good to know the out come before it happens.

Iain Hurrel also commented

  • Yes Simon I’m sure that’s going to be the way, it does seem to be a sort of retirement plan or re shuffle thing for votes, but I think this time it will be diff, as most said or made out its not about the money anymore its about the area and I’m sure you will start to see Cllrs now forgoing these benefits / payments as a point of principle.

    I don’t really have any political stand as it all seems to just get worse and the promises bigger and more out outlandish by the week, with as much back stabbing as poss.

    What I find really annoying is newly elected Cllr’s with no track record to speak of slagging off Guy’s like Dick Walsh who most in Scottish politics could not hold a light to and only dream of a career / record like his. I remember only 30 yrs ago seeing Mr Walsh fill his car locally at the petrol station most mornings at around 7 in the morning and not always the same one (spread the love around)in a type of way? 30 yrs on its still the same, week in week out. I’ve never met another Cllr in all that time or seen one work so hard for the people of Dunoon, although it started before that i’m sure?

    It makes me smile when you hear the trumpets of what we are going to do and how we are going to do it when we get in. Just that the trumpets stop not long after that and voices are not heard until the next election. there are Hard working Cllrs and that’s why they get back in, in most cases.

    Personally I think Mr Walsh has done a truly incredible job of running the area in his time in office. Im glad that’s he’s not back in as Head of the Council as I think he may enjoy it very much more where he is now and has completed a very long shift for his area and ward. he;s better placed to actually make sure the administration get it right and stand by the election promises and not let them away with madness and really messing it all up.
    The ferries thing will go away, but prob altogether now.
    Anyway well done everyone that want to be a Cllr

    Mr Walsh enjoy your new role of watch dog. Back to the pumps no doubt?

Recent comments by Iain Hurrel

  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    Sceptic1

    That’s my point I don’t care what party they are from or who they are if they where voted as a party ticket and change they should stand for re election,

    Agree DB when Dunoon councillors are voting on difficult subjects about Oban we can’t complain as they will know best what is good for us?
    NCH makes the point very well with his link to a earlier post where he agrees with the buy out until he’s told what’ way he is to vote, maybe he will tell us why he voted no now to the proposal

  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    Sceptic,

    I’m from the Oban area, I’m not that interested one way or another about The Dunoon Project, it’s the arrogance of councillors who step aside leave a party and don’t step down for re election. McCuish is in that same bag of disregard for the rules.
    Why will he not step down and go for re election? Just tell me why he shouldn’t do this not anything else just why he should be abive this rule? If he got 12 points on his licence would he still be able to drive?

  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    NCH
    Excellent example you have posted of a person described by Phill as honourable and approachable, yes will agree and say anything to anyone that he meets but do the opposite, two faced more like. We have get this element out of the council, get re elected or go. Need old values now to make it right not ones hanging on for what cash they can squeeze out the position.
  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    Phill,

    If that’s the case, then being so hounarable he would honour the rules of his engagement as a elected councillor, but it’s not about that is it? Part of the problem that we have today, just another that considers himself above the laws set out, and I’m not singling out him alone it’s all that haven’t put themselfs up for re election.
    If they don’t live by the law why should anyone else in the council stand by it?
    If you can give a better answer based on why he should think he is above the law?
    As he maybe knows he might not win again, so why take the chance? Not that honourable is it? Or maybe I’m very old school indeed

  • Can anything address the disease in Argyll and Bute Council?
    It is a joke, however it’s what we have allowed to happen. The current council was not elected to represent us the public. The elected members bailed out and change allegiance and party’s at the drop of a extra payment. I don’t care much who they are but the rules are that you step down and go for a re election, I don’t like seeing councillors taking the high ground over anythingthat they see or think is under hand or just wrong in their eyes. We have just seen the Community buy out in Dunoon being railroaded into the sea by a group of councillors that the public did not elect, the public voted in A SNP group to power, they couldntvwaitvti get out if oiwer and handed it to the group that the public didn’t vote for.

    If a councillor steps down or leaves that group they should seek re election, again this is the rules set down to protect the interests of the public so that this practice cannot happen. Not one single councillor has followed the rules attaining to this and instead not enforced it.
    I would like to see a list of all the councillors that have broken the rule if anyone has time to put it together ?

    So if you want to take the moral high ground and call foul practice of the council in plots such as they used to dump a lot of hard work by the community of Dunoon in their buy out the castle project then look at everything that is wrong as its all part of the problem we have now.
    The good ones will be re elected and the bad ones will not, this will start to cut out what is the disease within the council.
    Good ones who have done a good job will become stronger for it.
    I think Mr Breslin would have no problem getting voted back in with maybe a bigger majority whilst Mr McCush will not manage a re election I don’t think and clearly he knows that.
    I would like to see someone trigger this ASAP it would be a step forward rather than the mess we have now.

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9 Responses to Important subject spoiled by aggressive undertones of point …

  1. Why bothering writing to the CE, just nip into her office as “we understand” or should I say “it is rumoured” that Mike is the unofficial real leader of the “New Dawn” administration. Would it not have been better to have a wee word in Roddy’s ear and let the administration get the credit for the idea? Or is this an indication of the way its going to work? Mike says….

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    • It’s interesting that you think such a cast of well-educated, self-motivated councillors is under the thumb of someone else. Of course the SNP is a team, but it’s a very democratic one and doesn’t support the scenario you’ve imagined here.

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  2. Important subject spoiled by aggressive undertones of point scoring against previous administration. Im very sure you would not have writen that, knowing that you have not already sorted it out.

    Maybe you could now move on to the ferries and sort that out. However always good to know the out come before it happens.

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  3. Until the new council meet and the administration is ratified Roddy Mccuish and his associates have no control over the council or the employees so they will be unable to start to change anything until then

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  4. “Maybe you could now move on to the ferries and sort that out” – fair point Iain.

    But I must confess I’m hoping for the usual outraged article going on and on and on and on about all the Cllrs who have sold their principles just to join this rag-bag coalition to get the responsibility payments.’Bought for 30 pieces of silver’ and ‘noses in the trough’ are both sure to feature.

    Unless of course the SNP led coalition decide that they don’t want these responsibility payments….. :) :)

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    • Yes Simon I’m sure that’s going to be the way, it does seem to be a sort of retirement plan or re shuffle thing for votes, but I think this time it will be diff, as most said or made out its not about the money anymore its about the area and I’m sure you will start to see Cllrs now forgoing these benefits / payments as a point of principle.

      I don’t really have any political stand as it all seems to just get worse and the promises bigger and more out outlandish by the week, with as much back stabbing as poss.

      What I find really annoying is newly elected Cllr’s with no track record to speak of slagging off Guy’s like Dick Walsh who most in Scottish politics could not hold a light to and only dream of a career / record like his. I remember only 30 yrs ago seeing Mr Walsh fill his car locally at the petrol station most mornings at around 7 in the morning and not always the same one (spread the love around)in a type of way? 30 yrs on its still the same, week in week out. I’ve never met another Cllr in all that time or seen one work so hard for the people of Dunoon, although it started before that i’m sure?

      It makes me smile when you hear the trumpets of what we are going to do and how we are going to do it when we get in. Just that the trumpets stop not long after that and voices are not heard until the next election. there are Hard working Cllrs and that’s why they get back in, in most cases.

      Personally I think Mr Walsh has done a truly incredible job of running the area in his time in office. Im glad that’s he’s not back in as Head of the Council as I think he may enjoy it very much more where he is now and has completed a very long shift for his area and ward. he;s better placed to actually make sure the administration get it right and stand by the election promises and not let them away with madness and really messing it all up.
      The ferries thing will go away, but prob altogether now.
      Anyway well done everyone that want to be a Cllr

      Mr Walsh enjoy your new role of watch dog. Back to the pumps no doubt?

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      • I very much hope that the more cynical of Iain Hurrel’s remarks prove, in time, to be unfounded – and perhaps early review of the council’s new events licensing policy would be a good start.

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  5. Just a quick thread change although the communication post is her brief.Has Louise Glen-lee been removed from her spokesperson,s role.The story or rumour is doing the rounds in Oban, any crack on this from anyone.
    Cheers Neil.

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