Comment posted Council Elections: The count by newsroom.
We will publish an article on some of these issues later this evening.
The election is also not fully over yet. The Dunoon contest had to be postponed because of the recent death of Councillor Alister McAlistrer, who was due to stabnd in Dunoon.
That vote is being held on Thursday 10th May and Dick Walsh is one of the candidates. The overall picture will not be clear until that ward election is completed.
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- Sorry Paula. That is flatly incorrect and you cannot therefore have any evidence for it whatsoever.
In our entire lifespan we have blocked fewer than 10 comments – and that’s allowing for memory loss. They have been blocked because they were fully actionable, scatological or smearing for political advantage.
We have also banned one person permanently because he persisted in clear libel in what was clearly a personal obsession that had nothing to do with anyone else.
We sin-binned another for a period for an instance of outrageously poisonous manipulation.
If anything, we should arguably have blocked a lot more comments, not in our own interests – it is patently obvious that we let anyone say what they like about us – but to offer more protection to some individuals than we have done.
We have perhaps been overly tolerant in such cases because we prefer contributors to self-edit in the interests of observing a basic standard of civility and we believe that most people will do so.
- Thank you. It can, of course, be added at any time.
- All that we can think of here is that any comment you are aware of as unpublished may have been written without the ‘Post comment’ button being properly activated.
Two of us have been sharing the monitoring of comments over the life of this article and neither of us has blocked a single comment – something we have almost never had to do.
- Simon – just lose the blinkers and read what’s being said. There was no suggestion that there is anything wrong with ‘urban based’ anythings.
This was a serious response to your comment. It’s important to try the ‘what ifs?’ What if this is a serious matter and not a squib?
If it wasn’t a serious point but merely another squib through our letter box, then there is no use trying to engage. Email your address and we’ll send you a box of Bengal matches to play with.
- And we don’t bother so much here about the state Iraq has been left in by our illegal intervention.
It’s a matter of scale, Simon but it’s the same thing.
We have all to try to understand the condition of the other.
If one is a townie or a teuchter – to use the pejoratives for both – one cannot ‘know’ what it is to be the other; but one can ask, discover and intuit.
The problem with the school closures was driven, in part, by the phenomenon you identify: urban-based councillors adopting a position on rurality with no experience or understanding of rural communities, the way they work and they way they can fail.
It was the complacent assumption that a position of ignorance was somehow a qualification for superior wisdom that was the can of petrol in this inflammation.
In this case, as you rightly say, the people of Helensburgh didn’t and don’t think rural schools lke Luss and Kilcreggan matter much. Campbeltown cared as much for Southend; Oban for Barcaldine; Rothesay for North Bute; and Dunoon for Toward.
Why should they. It’s not their experience.
But that cannot be the basis for deciding, uninformed, on other people’s lives – or for ganging up on them.
Yet each of these places unknown to townsfolk is a rich and individual culture, a living organism that keeps alive much of the country. If these places die, then alternative means and values for living die too.
It’s not straightforward but it matters.
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- Lamont standing down immediately as Scottish Labour Leader
The desperate grasping at Kezia Dugdale rather suggests that what you fear may happen is on the slipway.
Kezia Dugdale is a talented MSP who shines in a very shallow pool where the best talents are unremarkable.
With experience and a good mentor, she could be an influential politician for the future.
But she is being grabbed at simply because she shines relatively, with no care for the fact that she needs time and guidance to grow to political maturity.
She does not need to be propelled prematurely into the leadership of a haphazard parliamentary group within a national party which is directionless and underfuelled.
With no sign on the horizon – at Holyrood or Westminster, of the thinkers that are so badly needed right now, Labour needs a strong strategic political intelligence to harness and redirect itself. There is no sign of that capability either.
Political fixing and opportunism will get a listless party through the odd bad night but cannot fuel it for an expedition.
The prospects are not good.
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Obviously cross-eyed in adding this one up. Apologies. Will recalibrate this later.
On the second point, this is a rule-of-thumb indicator; and some people who give first prefs do so out of temporary disaffection with another party and are not actually core vote for the party on question. So the most reliable rule-of-thumb is to take votes at face value – including those for newly disaffected independents.
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Had you made your suggestion on the lighting design for the square to Councillor Petrie who might then have taken if forwards at council level and become singularly associated with it through that process?
We should make it clear that it is popular received perception that associates Councillor Petrie with the ‘Comet’ lights, rather than any claim made by the man himself.
It would be very interesting to know of your complete plans for the lighting of the Square and the thinking behind what you had intended.
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It may be that this is an issue Mr Brown has not fully thought through.
He does seem the most capable candidate and the most progressive one.
- Lifeline for wildlife – 5p per carrier bag in Scotland from today
Evidently all ‘single use’ bags carry the levy, regardless of the material form which they are made – paper, plastic or recyclables.
But hygiene related bags – as for bread and cakes, for dirty products [eg with soil attached] and for medicines, are levy free.
We’ve not seen anything yet on take away food packaging, like polystyrene fish and chip or pizza boxes.
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