Comment posted Council Elections: The count by newsroom.
We will publish an article on some of these issues later this evening.
The election is also not fully over yet. The Dunoon contest had to be postponed because of the recent death of Councillor Alister McAlistrer, who was due to stabnd in Dunoon.
That vote is being held on Thursday 10th May and Dick Walsh is one of the candidates. The overall picture will not be clear until that ward election is completed.
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- Sorry Paula. That is flatly incorrect and you cannot therefore have any evidence for it whatsoever.
In our entire lifespan we have blocked fewer than 10 comments – and that’s allowing for memory loss. They have been blocked because they were fully actionable, scatological or smearing for political advantage.
We have also banned one person permanently because he persisted in clear libel in what was clearly a personal obsession that had nothing to do with anyone else.
We sin-binned another for a period for an instance of outrageously poisonous manipulation.
If anything, we should arguably have blocked a lot more comments, not in our own interests – it is patently obvious that we let anyone say what they like about us – but to offer more protection to some individuals than we have done.
We have perhaps been overly tolerant in such cases because we prefer contributors to self-edit in the interests of observing a basic standard of civility and we believe that most people will do so.
- Thank you. It can, of course, be added at any time.
- All that we can think of here is that any comment you are aware of as unpublished may have been written without the ‘Post comment’ button being properly activated.
Two of us have been sharing the monitoring of comments over the life of this article and neither of us has blocked a single comment – something we have almost never had to do.
- Simon – just lose the blinkers and read what’s being said. There was no suggestion that there is anything wrong with ‘urban based’ anythings.
This was a serious response to your comment. It’s important to try the ‘what ifs?’ What if this is a serious matter and not a squib?
If it wasn’t a serious point but merely another squib through our letter box, then there is no use trying to engage. Email your address and we’ll send you a box of Bengal matches to play with.
- And we don’t bother so much here about the state Iraq has been left in by our illegal intervention.
It’s a matter of scale, Simon but it’s the same thing.
We have all to try to understand the condition of the other.
If one is a townie or a teuchter – to use the pejoratives for both – one cannot ‘know’ what it is to be the other; but one can ask, discover and intuit.
The problem with the school closures was driven, in part, by the phenomenon you identify: urban-based councillors adopting a position on rurality with no experience or understanding of rural communities, the way they work and they way they can fail.
It was the complacent assumption that a position of ignorance was somehow a qualification for superior wisdom that was the can of petrol in this inflammation.
In this case, as you rightly say, the people of Helensburgh didn’t and don’t think rural schools lke Luss and Kilcreggan matter much. Campbeltown cared as much for Southend; Oban for Barcaldine; Rothesay for North Bute; and Dunoon for Toward.
Why should they. It’s not their experience.
But that cannot be the basis for deciding, uninformed, on other people’s lives – or for ganging up on them.
Yet each of these places unknown to townsfolk is a rich and individual culture, a living organism that keeps alive much of the country. If these places die, then alternative means and values for living die too.
It’s not straightforward but it matters.
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- Labour paralysis proves Lamont right
On the current position of the Labour party, Kassandra – both you and Malcolm, above, have foundation for how you see that position. This is because Labour is on a cusp, from where it can fall or rise – by its own actions.
That it may fail is the basis for the weak recent polling in respect of the May 2015 General Election.
That it may rise – and if it does it can present the most serious threat to the SNP – is the reason for the obvious SNP fear that this may happen.
You have a perfect right to wish it to fail; but if it does, it will leave the unicameral Scottish Parliament with a serious democratic deficit which does not take long to be to everyone’s disadvantage.
Never give too much power to anyone.
- Labour paralysis proves Lamont right
Looking at some of the comments above, we are unhappy with the degree of quite vicious and crude abuse of people whose views differ from those of the contributors in question.
We would ask contributors to be civil, to engage with the argument of the person to whom they are responding,and not to take the cheap shot lazy route of rubbishing and abusing them instead.
We are all human beings, distinguished by our ability to reason – than which there are few greater pleasures.
- Launch of a Credit Union for Cowal
Thank you for providing these missing names.
This is a very worthwhile initiative, particularly so in the Credit Union focus on community.
Our congratulations to everyone who has made this happen.
- Salmond finds irresistible his ‘dark star’ of London and his reviled Westminster
You will find that we have consistently been pretty excoriating on ‘Labour’s woes’.
Johann Lamont’s parting shot could not be more accurate – that Labour’s Westminster MP cadre has not understood at all that the driver of politics in the UK at the moment is Scotland and not Westminster.
If they cannot grasp that and recalibrate what passes for their thinking on that premise, they will not have earned support.
- South Kintyre by-election
How do the Greens feel about the extent to which the SNP and its followers are simply taking ownership of them – like a flower in the SNP buttonhole?
They decorate it well, of course, and did sterling service in the indy referendum, keeping mum at all costs – but they are paying the price of their lunch now.
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