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We will publish an article on some of these issues later this evening.
The election is also not fully over yet. The Dunoon contest had to be postponed because of the recent death of Councillor Alister McAlistrer, who was due to stabnd in Dunoon.
That vote is being held on Thursday 10th May and Dick Walsh is one of the candidates. The overall picture will not be clear until that ward election is completed.
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- Sorry Paula. That is flatly incorrect and you cannot therefore have any evidence for it whatsoever.
In our entire lifespan we have blocked fewer than 10 comments – and that’s allowing for memory loss. They have been blocked because they were fully actionable, scatological or smearing for political advantage.
We have also banned one person permanently because he persisted in clear libel in what was clearly a personal obsession that had nothing to do with anyone else.
We sin-binned another for a period for an instance of outrageously poisonous manipulation.
If anything, we should arguably have blocked a lot more comments, not in our own interests – it is patently obvious that we let anyone say what they like about us – but to offer more protection to some individuals than we have done.
We have perhaps been overly tolerant in such cases because we prefer contributors to self-edit in the interests of observing a basic standard of civility and we believe that most people will do so.
- Thank you. It can, of course, be added at any time.
- All that we can think of here is that any comment you are aware of as unpublished may have been written without the ‘Post comment’ button being properly activated.
Two of us have been sharing the monitoring of comments over the life of this article and neither of us has blocked a single comment – something we have almost never had to do.
- Simon – just lose the blinkers and read what’s being said. There was no suggestion that there is anything wrong with ‘urban based’ anythings.
This was a serious response to your comment. It’s important to try the ‘what ifs?’ What if this is a serious matter and not a squib?
If it wasn’t a serious point but merely another squib through our letter box, then there is no use trying to engage. Email your address and we’ll send you a box of Bengal matches to play with.
- And we don’t bother so much here about the state Iraq has been left in by our illegal intervention.
It’s a matter of scale, Simon but it’s the same thing.
We have all to try to understand the condition of the other.
If one is a townie or a teuchter – to use the pejoratives for both – one cannot ‘know’ what it is to be the other; but one can ask, discover and intuit.
The problem with the school closures was driven, in part, by the phenomenon you identify: urban-based councillors adopting a position on rurality with no experience or understanding of rural communities, the way they work and they way they can fail.
It was the complacent assumption that a position of ignorance was somehow a qualification for superior wisdom that was the can of petrol in this inflammation.
In this case, as you rightly say, the people of Helensburgh didn’t and don’t think rural schools lke Luss and Kilcreggan matter much. Campbeltown cared as much for Southend; Oban for Barcaldine; Rothesay for North Bute; and Dunoon for Toward.
Why should they. It’s not their experience.
But that cannot be the basis for deciding, uninformed, on other people’s lives – or for ganging up on them.
Yet each of these places unknown to townsfolk is a rich and individual culture, a living organism that keeps alive much of the country. If these places die, then alternative means and values for living die too.
It’s not straightforward but it matters.
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- Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
You are absolutely right. Oban was a fantastic fit for this project.
Rothesay has pontoon berths in its inner harbour which allow walk ashore straight into the town.
But this facility it is not well kept and looks grubby and down at heel – and the centre of Rothesay itself is the same or worse.
Even though Oban is shabby now, lacking investment in maintenance by too many commercial property owners, it remains a spectacular town where the opportunity to walk ashore would have become a word-of-mouth must-go-there in the sailing world in no time.
But – you can take a horse on an eight year tutorial but you can’t make it think.
- Dead in the water: Oban transit marina
An accurate if depressing analysis.
A lot of leisure sailor also do not own their own boats but charter them for cruising holidays.
Family sailing holidays are a substantial part of activity in this sector – so the spectrum of visitors who would have used the transit marina that might have been, would not have been narrow.
The fundamental message that councillors and officers have been unwilling to grasp – because it inconvenienced a clear and standing intention to down this long suffering project, which is at least now put of its misery – is that leisure sailors are a captive audience.
Sailing is camping at sea – all necessities onboard – although, from fuel to food, needing regular resupplying – but no frills.
Eating out is a delight – and no washing up to be done in a standup galley. Banter in a pub is a change of scene. Using your legs is welcome in walking around, browsing and exploring locally.
Almost all of this involves local spending, on a daily basis; and this audience is there to spend. They’re on holiday.
The minority of sailors who are well off are mature, often retired – with a lifetime of work behind them to earn what they have.
Some folk own caravans and motorhomes to explore on land, Those who love the water have boats for the same purpose – and the boats often cost a lot less than the motorhomes; but, on some senselessly classist two-way autocue, motorhomes are branded downmarket and boats as toffpots.
Will Oban get £1million a year from cruise ship passengers?
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