Comment posted SNP need to back off the ‘Anti-Scottish’ tactic by newsroom.
For ratzo: No one comment gave us cause to decide that it was important to call attention to a direction of travel that is potentially dangerous and should be left behind.
And this is no facile argument.
Supporting the charging of fees for tertiary education – for example – may be short or long sighted, it may be capitalist, it may be elitist, it may damage the economy, it may fuel growth – but it is not ‘Anti-Scottish’. It is entirely feasible than an independent Scotland might have to charge such fees – and how would that square with the tag of being ‘Anti Scottish’?
As soon as you start labelling anything negatively as ‘Anti-Scottish’, you are also creating a positive category of ‘Scottish’ – and that binary distinction in these terms is essentially racist and yes, it is incipiently fascist.
Fascism is not hurling people into concentration camps and murdering opponents at will.
That is the end result of fascism.
Fascism is the insistence on and the imposition of a single perspective, a single purpose, a single rightness – and an inability to tolerate the contrary view.
This is why the Blair regime became essentially fascist and why much of the legislation enacted – badly - in a hurry, by David Blunkett was fascist in spirit.
Maya Evans, standing at the Cenotaph in London in October 2005, refusing to stop reading (not shouting) aloud the names of British soldiers who had been killed in the 2003 Iraq war was neither a terrorist nor did she represent a terrorist threat. But she was arrested and charged under anti-terrorism legislation – simply because what she was doing was politically uncomfortable for the Blair regime that had taken us into that war. That regime could not tolerate that contrary view. Evans became the first person in the UK to be convicted under Blunkett’s 2005 Serious Organised Crime and Police Act.
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- For kenmcdonald: We do not intend to comment further on this matter – but the essence of extremism is unreason.
- For the cybernats:
Everyone is aware of the existence and operation of the so-called ‘cybernats’ – the SNP’s internet attack dogs, sent out to howl at the quiver of criticism on the horizon.
It is not difficult to discriminate between the, sometimes angry, responses of wounded nationalists and the vicious rants of the cybernats.
I have been watching the comments to this article and its clarifying comment with interest, amusement and serious concern.
The interest is purely academic, in the sense of observing and analysing behavioural phenomena. In the extremist comments I have seen an all but absolute absence of reason; a shrill and dark abuse of anyone with contrary views; and an unthinking dismissal of an issue that begs reflection.
The amusement relates to the rural Irish wisdom that: ‘If you throw a stone amongst a pack of dogs, it’s the one that gets hit that squeals’.
So I know that our very real anxiety about the underlying fascist attitude in the emergence of the ‘Anti-Scottish’ tag has been received as damaging.
The real damage is in the attitude rather than in the criticism. The cybernats and their masters might better reflect on the damage done by their own conduct in the face of reasoned criticism.
For Argyll has been well disposed to independence – and equally well disposed to a federalist solution.
In the light of what I have seen in the extremist strain amongst the comments above, I now have very real reservations about an SNP led independence, if this is evidence of what is to come.
What I am seeing is the habit – the deliberate habit – of the truly fascist. This will not tolerate criticism in the pursuit of a totalitarian, authoritarian nationalism. This will not stop to discriminate between legitimate and illegitimate criticism. ALL criticism is regarded as illegitimate.
If the SNP attack dogs can be licensed to behave in this way at a time when their party is working hard to court favour for an independence vote in 2014, what will this sort of administration be like when, if successful, it no longer needs to worry whether people like it or not?
Will I personally vote for independence if this is the true proposition to contemplate? If this is where we are headed, I would no longer consider it for one second.
I have been horrified to live through the Blair regime that saw folk arrested in Brighton – by police – during a Labour party conference, simply for wearing anti-Blair T-shirts; and at the same conference saw an octogenarian physically hauled out of the conference chamber for shouting ‘Rubbish’ during a speech by Jack Straw.
That is starting to look pretty tame against the incipient fascism here in Scotland.
What the cybernat behaviour has done in the extremist comments above is to reinforce in large the initial concerns we had at the ‘Anti-Scottish’ adventures – that there is a genuine fascism being consciously loosed to shout criticism of any kind into silence – and that is cause for all our concern.
Anyone who imagines that For Argyll is likely to be cowed by anything, never mind brutishly irrational screeching, has profoundly misread who we are and what we are for.
- For David McCann: See our reply to ratzo.
We were trying to treat this lightly, although we do see it as a phenomenon that is worrying.
We’re happy to accept that this may not have been the best approach and rest our case on what we have said to ratzo.
And, for the recored, we do see this manifestation as having all the hallmarks of juvenile spin doctoring.
- For ratzo: We cannot see anything amusing in pointing to creeping fascism. That this will be unintentional does not neutralise its fascist impact.
Scots who do not want independence are no less Scottish than those who do.
Each, as they see it, has the interests of the country at heart; and each has anxieties over the independence referendum that lead them to do what they can to manipulate it towards the outcome they would prefer to see.
We are on the record as being opposed only to the status quo, which Scotland has clearly outgrown; finding equally acceptable an openly and well specified independence or an equally open and well specified federalist revision of the UK.
In our view, it is dangerous not to identify and be critical of bad practice, from wherever it comes.
The sort of blind or nervous affiliation that makes it possible for people to accept on condone wrong conduct because it comes from their own ‘side’ is what breeds monsters.
Who wants to live in a country, independent or not, where any criticism or opposition is hit upon as ‘Anti-Scottish’. If you cannot see where this can only lead, that too is of real concern.
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- Sneddon runs white flag to half mast on council deception of parliamentary Education Committee
Mr Sneddon is no one’s whipping boy.
He has been a prime mover since he arrived; and has acted on his own initiative in some matters that have brought the council as a whole into national disrepute – as when he sent out a dreadfully stalinist Press Release in the name of the Council on the revived Martha Payne excursion on school dinners just as the fledgling SNP administration was trying to find its feet.
He has also been given charge of progressing the sale of Castle Toward – a matter hung about with controversy – which is supported by a substantial evidence base.
It is a worrying signal of values at the council – and of its grasp of the realities – that a man like Mr Sneddon, with so whimsical a relationship with facts, has been chosen to keep the disposal of the property under way.
- Huge consultancy costs to date on CHORD scheme
That particular cost breakdown list [from the total given above it] is for the various spends on actual project works.
A question here relates to the Campbeltown all-weather sports pitch.
THis was not part of the Campbeltown CHORD project but money was vired from the townl;s CHORD budget to pay for the AWP.
The question now is whether the council is trying to make the Campbeltown CHORD project look better than it is by including the vired AWP spend as if it were a completed CHORD initiative.
The positive side of this is that the AWP was badly needed in Campbeltown and has done a lot of good there in many ways.
CHORD money is also being vired to the Town Hall project – a signature and joyful Campbeltown building.
Neither, though, were any part of the Campbeltown CHORD ‘vision’.
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You are mistaken.
Petrochemical feedstock form tne Orth Sea is fie – the problem is that, like the other UK refineries, Grangenouoth is not geared up to handle the cheaper heavy crudes which are the future of the refining industry and of North Sea production.
This is a serious limitation on their lifespan.
Our eight-part series is a seriously researched exercise.
You would have found this information in its pieces on refining and on Grangemouth.
- A816 now open
We’re very sorry to hear this – and you will have everyone’s sympathy.
- Mandela an exemplar for redemptive spiritual largeness
Nelson Mandela was 72 years old when he came out of prison in 1990 – carrying a range of health problems resulting from his incarceration and from events during it.
He became President of South Africa in 1994 and served for five years until he stood down in 1999.
In these circumstances it is ridiculous to accuse him of ‘not fixing Africa’.
By NOT doing what he might have done and choosing rather to heal and to be an agent of healing, he deflected south Africa from the fully expected descent into a bloodbath.
He did this with grace and largeness of spirit that touched everyone. Who else would or could have done any of this – and at such an age, from such a starting point?
‘Fixing Africa’ is up to those to whom Mandela’s achievement was giving them the time to do so.
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