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Don;t know. Probably no more than exhausted campaigners throwing everything at it in the last day, with helpers who stick things up all over the place.
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- Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
We appreciate that it is inconvenient for a light to be shone on doings your party would prefer to keep hidden in shady places from those it asks to vote for it.
That is a dishonourable contract.
As the former Alliance of Independent Councillors [which had nothing at all do with Michael Russell ] knows very well, when it was damaging Argyll and Bute by its conduct during the 2010-11 schools closure wars, we were even more vigilant in keeping them under scrutiny and publishing on their manoeuvres.
We had to be even more vigilant because they were skilled at keeping things under wraps – where the SNP has conducted its acts of political genocide en plein air. All anyone has had to do is draw up a chair.
It should be obvious from our stance in recent weeks that we have no ‘vendetta’ against Councillor Dick Walsh, whom we dealt with arguably more harshly than we have done with Mr Russell.
A central function of our role is to contribute to the holding to account of those elected to serve the people. We do our best to fulfil this fairly – and hard. But we have no vendetta against anyone.
In Mr Russell’s case we simply feel he is a hot air balloon who has imploded over Argyll and done a great deal of harm – profoundly so to his own party, which we used to support. The evidence for our view is in the public domain. - Radically new council group changes all the dynamics: party politics dead in Argyll
The fact is that the SNP councillors in the Argyll and Bute for Change group are not ‘SNP councilors’ in council group terms – as rules forbid membership of more than one group.
So the ‘Russell camp’ is definitely no longer in the council’s SNP group, although presumably they will personally vote in elections according to their preferences.
And IF the other 8 SNP members have actually joined [as opposed to supporting [the Argyll, Lomond and the Isles group, there is no formal SNP group at all in Argyll and Bute Council.
If this has become the situation, it means that the SNP as a party has no right of purview over the behaviour of ANY of its originally elected councillors, none of whom would now be SNP councillors.
You have to say this is fun. It's not politics but it is a laugh. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
As given in one of the recent updates above - the missing person is Councillor Strong - from the, as of this morning, Argyll and Bute for Change Group. This would leave that group with 18 members but only 17 present to vote - which would not be enough to carry them to administration IF all other 18 councillors voted together.
This has to be likely but in the current situation the finessing is so arcane that one cannot be certain of anything until it's done. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
The fact is that they were quite prepared to work with the Liberal Democrat and Conservative groups - but were ordered by the the SNP to face expulsion from the party or to leave the administration that was planning just such a coalition.
We do not yet know what the SNP party position is today - although in our 14.15 update above, we have laid out the range of possibilities - but we do know that the 8 SNP Councillors have not resigned from the party. - Argyll and Bute Council: Councillor McCuish leads again
Sincere apologies for the temporary error - now corrected - and thank you for the prompt.
We are doing our level best - live - to get changing situations out to people as fast and as best as we can.
When we inevitably have the odd muddle [like cloning Mary Jean Devon], it is corrected very quickly.
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‘Illegal’ – needing planning permission? libellous? packed with porkies? – we need enlightenment.
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Don;t know. Probably no more than exhausted campaigners throwing everything at it in the last day, with helpers who stick things up all over the place.
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Is it fair to publish something that is only heresay about two candidates, whoever they are? If you don’t have a clue what has happened why bother saying anything – unless, of course, you have a personal bias.
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This is what we need in the election.
Heresy! Heresy! Burn them! Burn them!
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Was Vivien Dance nailing them to trees with a big bulldozer?
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So long as “illegal” doesn’t mean “everyone else’s”.
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See what happened there Lowry??
Newsie comes on with a non-story – non attributed, no quotes and no evidence. You ask a more than reasonable question and the next two posters – Crazy and Stepehen ignore your poiint and comment on the Newsie’s non-story.
Gawd help us all if these half-wit zealots get in…
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The SNP must be better mannered in Helensburgh than they are in Kintyre as Unionist posters were ripped down there within hours.
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Unionist posters?
What are those?
And does your correspondent, echoes of good old kintyre1, have any substantive evidence to support his implied charge?
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I wonder what has happened to ‘good old Kintyre 1′?
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It happens in the Dunoon and Cowal area also.
We know who does it but they come out with excuses like “do you have substantive evidence to support this implied charge” or “it wisnae me, a big boy done it and ran away”
But guess what? Their posters stay up!!!!
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The fact that ” their ” posters remain untouched is all the evidence needed as to the culprits
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WCHB – Are you sure you didn’t mean “Hearsay! Hearsay! Burn them! Burn them!”????
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No, Simon
That’s what Lowry meant.
Pay attention, please.
On second thoughts, the “Burn them!” should be deleted for Health and Safety reasons
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To see the Helensburgh Lomond candidates in action…see http://helensburgh.tv/threads/360-2012-political-broadcasts
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Pending the announcement of what constitutes an illegal election poster, a light-hearted post was responded to with a light hearted comment.
In future such comments will be marked JOKE, to help those with a irony deficiency.
Serious comments will be marked SERIOUS, to help those with a reality deficiency.
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Vivien Dance smiling benignly at the Princess Royal as both stood on the Victoria Hall steps, as seen on the front page of the Helensburgh Advertiser, when Mrs Dance had been explicitly banned from the property because of the election ‘purdah’ – how does that shape up with the rules?
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Did the Princess Royal remember to curtsey?
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Stpehen – but if you mark them JOKE – then they are supposed to be funny!!!
The ‘light-hearted post’ and ‘light hearted comment’ were about as funny as week in jail.
Have a good day
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Simon, have you actually ever had a week in Jail? Bangkok Hilton perhaps?
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Simon – I think that might be what Stephen meant by an irony deficiency.
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Yes, Simon appears to have fallen into my troll-pit. Can I refer him to the sage advice of that great actor, Whil Wheaton?
FWIW, outside my polling station in Helensburgh today posters for Dance, Mulvaney and Robb, but not anyone else. Also bonus sighting of Mulvaney wandering down the street, looking a little lost.
(JOKE/SUBJECTIVE COMMENT)
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