Do / Will these people ever stop? Can’t …

Comment posted Osborne Interiors pursue the dance of the chain saws in Castle Woods by quasi.

Do / Will these people ever stop? Can’t they take a hint?
Link…http://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/thisweek/articles/2012/05/09/428611-campaigners-fury-over-deal-sweetner/

quasi also commented

  • Read comment 8 again.
  • At least Simon is articulate and grammatically correct. Which cannot be said about most of the contributors to this site.
  • Just a thought…does anyone know which company undertook the recent refurbishment of Victoria Halls (which Vivien Dance is “a friend of”)?

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  1. The Council has an open enforcement case on the illegal felling of protected trees on Cumberland Avenue site. It is understood that discussions are ongoing with police and Procurator Fiscal. One possible option is a prosecution of directors of companies involved. How can someone stand for election to a council if there is any possibility of potential criminal charges arising from complaints by that same council?

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  2. I wonder if the council had thought to approach a ‘registered social landlord’ about rescuing Jutland Court before it dealt with a developer pushing for controversial sites outwith the local plan – a developer that clearly has close connections with a prominent local councillor? When you consider this saga with that of the Colquhoun Square proposals it’s difficult not to conclude that there’s a touch of the Banana Republic about council politics in Helensburgh.

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  3. Not familiar with this story but distressed to hear about it.

    Worth highlighting to any readers concerned about loss of trees and woodlands to development in their area that felling of trees is regulated by the Forestry Commission, so even the absence of TPOs on a site does not in itself allow felling – in most cases a felling licence is required.

    Details can be found at: http://www.forestry.gov.uk/website/forestry.nsf/byunique/infd-5zgksj

    There are certain exemptions to the need for a licence, but these tend to be limited to smaller-scale operations.

    Also, if the planning authority have themselves given approval for felling trees as part of a planning permission, then this overrides the need for a felling licence.

    In the absence of any of these exemptions it is an offence to fell trees without a licence – unsurprisingly, given that Scottish Government policy aims to increase woodland cover, not reduce it.

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  4. Some years ago a well known businessman in Argyll clear felled an area of protected woodland in a scenic area. He was prosecuted and fined the maximum £3K. He then laughed all the way to the bank and built a housing estate on the same land.

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    • Jack, I agree with the sentiment, the sanctions need to be much tougher.

      But in the example you gave, ultimately the failing was the grant of planning permission, without this the businessman would have been left with the fine and a replanting obligation, but no material gain.

      The cast-iron way to police this sort of behaviour would surely be for local authorities to adopt a policy of automatically refusing any future planning application on land on which illegal felling had taken place.

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  5. I believe it is long past time that our so called council leaders took a stand against “developers” such as Osbourne.

    Osbourne purchased these allegedly “protected” woodlands from the MOD ( i.e. you and me – the great British Taxpayer )for a pittance and have since breached numerous preservation orders with apparent impunity. Why do they get away with it?

    It seems there is one law for “Developers” and another for ordinary folk.

    There are numerous other vacant – in fact derelict – sites crying out for re-development in Helensburgh and in the surrounding area. These appear to be of little interest to this “developer” who clearly stands to make further significant profit at the taxpayers expense by vandalising another important part of Helensburgh’s heritage.

    Lets all make a stand to stop them.

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  6. This is a wood to far, they got the land at NON development prices, and now dont like it when they are faced with the fact that it should NOT be developed on, there are other sites that they can build on, but that means putting there hand in there pocket even further, an less of a profit, Weather or not the trees would have come down on the plot at Cumberland Ave this winter will never be known, the fact is they should not have been felled in the first place, they seam to get away with it, as you say they are the ones who are Gambling with the jobs of there staff, not the ones who want this will full destruction of our wood land stopped.

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  7. Good for Osbourne the rest of you are just jelous because you didnt buy the land. Hey and if you did !! you would be doing exactly the same as osbourne. let him throw the first stone. Rember that .

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  8. These woodlands have been under threat far too long, its time for the councillors to say no to any further development on them when it is clear there is no need for housing in the area outwith the areas designated for such use in The Local Plan and the Main Issues Report. These woods were never meant to be developed and are still legally protected. The developers have no “right to build” just because of their ownership of the land. It will be interesting to hear what the police and Proscurator Fiscal have to say once the case comes to court, felling trees during nesting time is a crime, no RSPB officer was consulted beforehand despite their claims.
    If the local community had the chance to buy the land it would be returned back to woodland. Not everyone is out for personal gain.

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  9. money talks and nobody is above corruption. Lets get rid of vivian dance and her friends at these next council elections ……….no corruption in argyll

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