“When they finish the champagne , Argyll First …

Comment posted Argyll First celebrate unanimous decision to return power to full council by Jnr Tick.

“When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority”

Islay for ever, you say the SNP are hellbent on destroying the UK? It is not and never has been the SNP’s aims to have the UK’s best interests at heart. The clue to the SNP’s intentions or motives is in the the S and the N, the interests of Scotland the Nation. It is not to destroy the UK, why should they have any interest in the UK? The SNP, for their sins, a real Scottish political party who’s interets are solely for the people who reside in Scotland. If you are looking to apportion blame for the demise in the UK and its, in my opinion, eventual disintegration, take a long hard look at where we are today, the embarrassing and ever widening gap between rich and poor, depravation in our towns and cities, lack of opportunity for graduates/school leavers, retention and maintenance of the abhorent wmd’s at Faslane, lack of respect for authority, drug addiction, I could go on and on. All these ails whilst being governed by Westminster Tory, Labour, Tory, Labour,Tory when will we break this cycle, come on the level headed people of Scotland, time to put this wonderful country right, to lead the way. If a party looking after the interests of its county’s residents has the knock on effect of ‘destroying the UK’ then so be it, but the SNP cannot be blamed for the intentions it came into existence for in 1934.

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  • Just wondering where in my reply to ‘Islay for ever’s’ post did I mention the word instantly? Independence might however go some way to solving people’s inability to quote from posts accurately by getting Scotland’s education system back to the way it used to be, revered throughout the world. Sadly, like many other things here in Scotland, eroding, gradually becomming mediocre. Given time, in an Independent Scotland whichever government, be it Labour, Conservative, SNP or other, can implement real change, change that can revolutionise the way we all live, get back a sense of pride in where we live and who we are instead of a future of generations who are disassociated, disillusioned apathetic to anything that really matters in life. Jim B, what do people like yourself expect to see in a future Scotland as part of this wonderful UK? more of the same?, except even more of a decline I think. Why? Because the Unionists of this country, Scotland, expect radical change for the better will surely happen some time, some year, some decade, just keep putting the same old Westminster Labour then Tory governments in down south and they’ll see us all right, time to be brave and believe in your fellow countrymen and women that together here in Scotland we have both the resources and the intellect to make it work. I’m quite young, but admittedly and ashamedly have been naive to think Scotland lacked the attributes I have just mentioned for long enough, read to many rags, believed too many ill-informed anti-Independence people, but since the invention of platforms such as this, many of the myths of ‘paradise Union’ and ‘poor skint havnae got the intelligence Scotland’ can be quickly and easily dispelled. Incidently, the contempt shown to us by both the media and Westminster’s misinforming leaves a nasty taste in the mouth creating individualls like myself who will follow the Independence goal until my dying breath, if neccessary.

Recent comments by Jnr Tick

  • SNP candidate for Argyll & Bute in major own goal?
    The truth too painful?
  • SNP candidate for Argyll & Bute in major own goal?
    Richard, you know as well as the rest of us, during the referendum Brown and his clunking fist told our undecided that Scotland would be ‘as close to Federalism’ “Scotland would get Home Rule within UK”

    Given he coerced his Tory & Lib Dem colleagues to back his proposed vow then his opinion clearly carried some weight.

    Now, take the NO/Tory/Anti-Scotland specs off for just a second Richard and please tell me the proponents of the vow have maybe not “lied” but most certainly deceived many since the outcome of the Smith commission.

  • SNP candidate for Argyll & Bute in major own goal?
    Speaking of our referendum, Ian Bell one of Herald’s & National’s journalists has just produced a magnificent piece. This is journalism.
    It’s lengthy, but if this piece doesn’t stimulate the cells, little will.
    http://www.thenational.scot/comment/2014-the-year-of-our-revolution.485
  • SNP candidate for Argyll & Bute in major own goal?
    Newsroom, lets not do as Nick Robinson and his employers did and mislead those you are attempting to inform.
    The recorded footage of Nick Robinson’s report on his questioning of Alex Salmond which I clearly remember having watched it on the news, was in part a blatant misrepresentation of what actually took place earlier that day, extremely poor journalism indeed designed to denigrate the First Minister and cast aspersions upon.
    That day when I heard his (Robinson’s) claim that Alex Salmond refused to answer his question I immediately thought it strange and uncharacteristic of Alex Salmond but thought nothing more of it until the furore the following day I think.
    Nick Robinson and the BBC’s editor clearly believed they would get away with this slight of hand but everything in the public eye is under forensic scrutiny, every action, every word magnified even more so during that period.
    The protesters who in line with the referendum YES campaign held a very civilised peaceful demo, had every right to voice their concern and disgust. They along with the rest of us mugs dip into their pockets only to end up funding what amounts to unionist propaganda.
    Btw, remember the West of Scotland’s academics year long research into how our TV had handled reporting of the referendum, remember the findings?

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/john-robertson-oliver-huitson/interview-bbc-bias-bullying-and-scottish-referendum

    The BBC have form!
    It’s very important when attempting to defend Robinson to listen to his words, his report on the event after this press conference, then take a look at what actually happened. To call it a discrepancy plays it down big time. It appeared to those of us who already had grave concerns about the BBC’s lack of impartiality, that it was yet another even more brazen attempt to discredit our campaign.
    The BBC apologists should hang their head in shame. Serious questions need asked of our state broadcaster.
    We have very clear proof of their leanings, their very questionable take on the constitutional question, yet NO voters scratch their heads utterly bemused that SNP are the only political party to come out of the referendum multiplying their membership fivefold and polls indicating a wipeout of their closest rivals in Scotland.
    Were it not for the legal implications involved I am pretty sure BBC licence fees in Scotland would have halved immediately post referendum, unfortunately they more or less hold us to ransom.
    Here are the two clips mentioned, firstly Robinsons lie followed by a link proving that it was a lie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxU2PLmexss

  • The black arts of political spin betray SNP fears in Argyll & Bute
    Their strategy is indeed desperately out of touch, very naïve.
    Their General election paraphernalia cunningly disguised as the ‘Argyll & Bute Gazette’ was slipped through my letterbox yesterday.
    I took the time tonight to read this single newspaper sized sheet folded in half, not for political educational reasons but just to reinforce my gripe with Alan Reid who seems unable to contribute any piece in our local newspaper without mentioning the SNP.
    So, in a single sheet with approximately 12 articles guess how many times the SNP was mentioned? A staggering 25 times!
    Does Alan Reid and his party not have something positive to sell to our Argyll electorate, hasn’t this party learned anything from Scottish politics of the past decade or so? Labour’s infatuation with the rise of the SNP in attacking them persistently instead of offering anything positive has contributed hugely into getting them into mess they have ended up in today.
    The Liberals pathetic claim that this a two horse race is quite simply inaccurate, the Tories are not out of the running in A&B.
    Also, their claim that it is “a race between Alan Reid and the SNP” is insulting, it’s insulting the intellect of our savvy electorate not to mention the SNP candidate Brendan O’Hara who will be campaigning Argyll & Bute to serve Argyll & Bute.

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26 Responses to “When they finish the champagne , Argyll First …

  1. When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority .

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    • Ife – whatever you think about the national aims of the SNP, the councillors are elected to run Argyll & Bute, and you’re completely missing the point of this thread. If, heaven forfend, there are many people who would criticise Argyll First as you are, then local government really would go to the dogs.

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    • Perhaps IFE would give us the benefit of their wisdom & tell us what their preferred option would have been in the light of the votes cast & the candidates elected in May.

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    • Change the record Islay, you are starting to bore people, in fact I keep a bucket of water handy to duck my heid in after I read one your posts to keep from bursting my heid

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  2. I would like to congratulate Argyll First for doggedly pursuing this despite receiving so little support initially.

    In light of Islay’s post I would also like to congratulate the A&B SNP group – I had no idea that they had such control over the destiny of the whole of Scotland. It would appear that independence will be won and lost by our local Councillors – who would have thought!

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    • The power of councillors is wide ranging. A couple of Council elections ago, the Conservative/Independent candidate in the Holy Loch ward was telling voters with an English accent that if the SNP candidate was successful, they would be sent back to England. When they stopped laughing, many of them joined the SNP.

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  3. “When they finish the champagne , Argyll First might like to reflect on the fact , that thanks to them ,power in Argyll & Bute rests with a tightly whipped SNP group controlled by Michael Russell and SNP high command hellbent on destroying the United Kingdom as their number one priority”

    Islay for ever, you say the SNP are hellbent on destroying the UK? It is not and never has been the SNP’s aims to have the UK’s best interests at heart. The clue to the SNP’s intentions or motives is in the the S and the N, the interests of Scotland the Nation. It is not to destroy the UK, why should they have any interest in the UK? The SNP, for their sins, a real Scottish political party who’s interets are solely for the people who reside in Scotland. If you are looking to apportion blame for the demise in the UK and its, in my opinion, eventual disintegration, take a long hard look at where we are today, the embarrassing and ever widening gap between rich and poor, depravation in our towns and cities, lack of opportunity for graduates/school leavers, retention and maintenance of the abhorent wmd’s at Faslane, lack of respect for authority, drug addiction, I could go on and on. All these ails whilst being governed by Westminster Tory, Labour, Tory, Labour,Tory when will we break this cycle, come on the level headed people of Scotland, time to put this wonderful country right, to lead the way. If a party looking after the interests of its county’s residents has the knock on effect of ‘destroying the UK’ then so be it, but the SNP cannot be blamed for the intentions it came into existence for in 1934.

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    • Jnr Tick,
      A well crafted response but wasted on IslayForever who appears to be a reincarnation of Kintyre1 with roots in Esher and naive political ambitions.

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  4. Islay for ever is probably doubled up with mirth at the above posts.

    Naive you say? Apparently independence will instantly solve the drugs problem and deprivation in our cities, not to mention wealth redistribution – now that is naive.

    From what we have seen so far they will solve the deprivation problems in a large corridor running from Inverness to Edinburgh and we all know how deprived that is! As for Argyll I do not expect to see anything from The Silly Notions Party.

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    • Nobody ever said that Independence will cure all ills.

      But Dependence is doing nothing for us now, so perhaps a change of direction?

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  5. Just wondering where in my reply to ‘Islay for ever’s’ post did I mention the word instantly? Independence might however go some way to solving people’s inability to quote from posts accurately by getting Scotland’s education system back to the way it used to be, revered throughout the world. Sadly, like many other things here in Scotland, eroding, gradually becomming mediocre. Given time, in an Independent Scotland whichever government, be it Labour, Conservative, SNP or other, can implement real change, change that can revolutionise the way we all live, get back a sense of pride in where we live and who we are instead of a future of generations who are disassociated, disillusioned apathetic to anything that really matters in life. Jim B, what do people like yourself expect to see in a future Scotland as part of this wonderful UK? more of the same?, except even more of a decline I think. Why? Because the Unionists of this country, Scotland, expect radical change for the better will surely happen some time, some year, some decade, just keep putting the same old Westminster Labour then Tory governments in down south and they’ll see us all right, time to be brave and believe in your fellow countrymen and women that together here in Scotland we have both the resources and the intellect to make it work. I’m quite young, but admittedly and ashamedly have been naive to think Scotland lacked the attributes I have just mentioned for long enough, read to many rags, believed too many ill-informed anti-Independence people, but since the invention of platforms such as this, many of the myths of ‘paradise Union’ and ‘poor skint havnae got the intelligence Scotland’ can be quickly and easily dispelled. Incidently, the contempt shown to us by both the media and Westminster’s misinforming leaves a nasty taste in the mouth creating individualls like myself who will follow the Independence goal until my dying breath, if neccessary.

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    • You say you want to see education in Scotland back to the high standard it enjoyed previously .
      Education in Scotland is devolved to Holyrood , so Scottish politicans have had 13 years of full powers on the issue and a doubling of resources .
      Independence would do nothing to change the prospects of Scottish education in a positive direction .

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      • I’ve said it before elsewhere but I think it’s worth repeating – anyone who can’t actually spell independence shouldn’t really be debating it.

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        • Wouldn’t that count out a number of the 16 year olds that the SNP want to give the choice to?

          To be fair I rarely, if ever agree with Islay for Ever, but I don’t feel resorting to cheap shots about spelling is the way forward. There will surely be enough cheap shots being made by all political parties in the coming months and years to satisfy any desire for them!

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          • sorry, you’re probably right Integrity…. but you’ve made a wee bit of a cheap shot at 16 year olds there! :)

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      • O dear a spelling mistake in a comment about education .
        I thought I had gained a good grasp of spelling at my small local primary school now sadly closed .

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    • JT – since you tagged my name to a question in your post I suppose it behoves me to reply.

      It is not so much a case of foreseeing some magnificent event in the Union that will suddenly bring riches to Scotland and its people but rather potential dangers in being seperated from the rest of the UK.

      In your lifetime the world will have to tackle monumental problems if the human race is to survive, e.g. population control, climate change, food production, water distribution to name but a few. The solving of these survival issues will become more difficult with the political scene fragmented into smaller and smaller countries. This is the longer view.

      In the shorter term we are promised the Kingdom of Heaven by SNP activists like yourself but have experienced blatant lies and incompetence from the SNP government not to mention childish games like the announcing of the bathtub boats AFTER the election. The documents surrounding the bids for new/refurbished schools were apparently incompetently written and there have been other examples. Doesn’t give me confidence!

      We are entering a scenario where western influence in the world is waning. China, India and possibly other eastern countries are in the ascendancy – even the US is begining to realise this. Small countries will be swept aside in the rush to dominate the new world order.

      Whilst I admire your youthful zeal and confidence, as I approach my 3 score years and ten in the ‘varsity of life I think your confidence is misplaced.

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  6. Argyll First are a bunch of chancers and publicity whores. A wee bird has just told me that the Turncoat Tory (Kelly) and the Gutterman (McAlpine) didn’t even turn up to this council meeting to support this. Only Philand seems to have any integrity in this queer alliance.

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  7. Talking about “Turncoat Tory (Kelly)” – I read in last weeks Dunoon Observer (still going Newsie depsite your ‘exclusive’ about impending doom last year… ;)) that the aforesaid Turncoat Tory is threatening to blockade the Scottish Parliament if the SNP Govt don’t extract the digit re the A83.

    Really, is there no begining to this man’s talents?

    He is publicly saying he will break the Law to further his own political end. Didn’t an erstwhile Tory leader, one Maggie of the Thatch, lecture us all once (during the miners strike) pointing out that “you cannot choose which Laws to obeserve”.

    What does the Tory Leader in Scotland say about this threatof illegal action from one her party’s Councillors?

    And indeed what does the local SNP leader McCuish make of all this? One of his alliance allies threatening not only to break the Law but to to attempt to blockade the SNP Govt in Edinburgh.Is happy to be assoicated with this numpty?

    I think we should be told :)

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    • Given that over the years you could be forgiven for thinking that the Brussels – rather than the Edinburgh – regime sometimes cares more for our Argyll trunk roads, is it any wonder that people’s minds turn to thoughts of civil disobedience?

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