I am not convinced that this method returns …

Comment posted Ewan Kennedy on the Single Transferable Vote by Dave McEwan Hill.

I am not convinced that this method returns a result a lot more representative of the voters intention than a process in which the electors merely chose three candidates.

Recent comments by Dave McEwan Hill

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    When people resort to silly ad hominem attacks we know they have lost any argument
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    For me the most encouraging thing about the meeting was the number of people I had never come across before in a political context who were at the meeting. (I am the manager of the YES shop that was being shouted at, as Patsy points out)
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    I assume the couple of us sitting at the front were the SNP members Gus was referring to. As we are working every day in YES with Green Party members, Labour party members, LibDem members, SSP members, even some Tory members and people who are in no party at all we were not the slightest bit put out by Sarah Collins stating that she was not a member of the SNP.
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    Blair and McIntyre abstained. That is the fact.
    I feel very strongly for some of the SNP council group who find themselves being dragged into bad places on a call to their loyalty which of course keeps political parties functioning. This recess gives a respite which may allow some to escape from the predicaments they find themselves in. They have been ill served indeed by successive leaders but have to accept the responsibility of having chosen them in the first place.
    Having been made aware of Roddy’s haverings on radio yesterday (advising the Scottish Government on how to do things!)it is now pretty evident that he lives on a different planet to the rest of us and likeable though he is he just doesn’t get it. Any notion that he is in charge is debateable indeed and it looks like the power base of Roddy’s empire is to the east of Argyll. However, as I pointed out earlier, he (and a couple close to him)can enjoy their extra payments in the meantime.
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    I note that with the standards of accuracy we have come to expect from For Argyll it has reported that Blair and McIntyre registered a NO vote. They in fact registered a no vote (abstained), which is entirely different.

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3 Responses to I am not convinced that this method returns …

  1. I am not convinced that this method returns a result a lot more representative of the voters intention than a process in which the electors merely chose three candidates.

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    • Its a b###dy mess. Far too complicated for an important event like local(binding) elections. In this case Donald Melville surely suffered and just seems wrong, and this would doubtless be replicated the length and bredth of the country.
      Time to get back to individual councillors for each ward as more folk standing these days due to reasonable salary and expenses. For democracy to be seen to be done it must be understood, and currently its far from that.
      I daresay no particular party suffered more than others but thats not to exonerate this daft system.
      thanks for your explanation mind you Ewan.

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  2. I am not a fan of any system that is not intelligible to your typical voter. And this one is not. But we’re stuck with it for a while, is my guess.
    For a fantastic explanation you should check out the blog of “Lallands Peat Worrier”. He has produced a really helpful analysis of the Glasgow seats – and this link is an example. The charts are so helpful, and his commentary, albeit from an SNP perspective, interesting.
    http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/craigton-govan-pollokshields-vol-ii-of.html
    He also provided a quasi-academic explanation of the whole STV system prior to the elections here: http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/rank-local-election-wonkery-glasgow.html
    Enjoy!

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