…..so there is somewhere dearer than the Tarbert …

Comment posted Cameron on the back foot on independence referendum choices by jake.

…..so there is somewhere dearer than the Tarbert Co-oP. I live and learn.

Recent comments by jake

  • Boomerang: Salmond attack on Mundell lashes Sturgeon to Salmond’s own lies
    to be fair NCH, the report had been in circulation about the corridors of Dover House and Whitehall for weeks and I’m sure any number of people had access to it, were briefed about its contents or just picked up the gossip. The issue is that these types of report are internal and being from Diplomatic sources and potentially sensitive are not part of the public record or routinely published or leaked. The question isn’t who knew, but who was going to be gullible, desperate or “courageous” enough do the dirty deed and leak it, and as it now transpires who was going to get the blame.
  • Boomerang: Salmond attack on Mundell lashes Sturgeon to Salmond’s own lies
    Sorry Richard, Ms Sturgeon didn’t repeat her conversation, it was repeated by others who formed part of a chain of chinese whispers in which what she said was almost inevitably distorted in the re-telling. We can speculate no doubt as to the extent of conscious and unconscious influences on this process, but wouldn’t it be more correct to say that Ms Sturgeon denied the accuracy of the final version of events which is an view that others who were actually present at the meeting agree with?
  • Boomerang: Salmond attack on Mundell lashes Sturgeon to Salmond’s own lies
    Well it might be a far fetched Salmond conspiracy theory, but it’s a theory that was credible enough at the time the leak occurred for Mundell to be questioned about it and for David Cameron to report on this stating that he had heard Mundell deny any involvement. Interesting choice of words in that Cameron statement; he didn’t say categorically that Mundell wasn’t involved, merely that he’d heard him say he wasn’t involved, so I’m wondering if Cameron himself didn’t retain some lingering doubts.
  • Not getting the government we vote for? Unpack the mantras.
    Newsie,
    You asked “why are we not hearing London agitate for independence of the rest of the UK?”
    I suspect it’s because Londoners realise that they have an imbalanced economy and that without their hinterland they aren’t viable as a go-it-alone state.
    I imagine that were they to opt to go it alone, the UK seat of government and the entourage that necessarily follows in it’s wake would move out too, as would all the cultural accouterments that a nations capital necessarily attracts.
  • Not getting the government we vote for? Unpack the mantras.
    Not strictly true… we get the parliamentary representation we voted for; how the government is formed is a different matter.

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15 Responses to …..so there is somewhere dearer than the Tarbert …

  1. Can you please reformat the text if this article. It’s one huge paragraph which does nothing to show case it’s contents.

    Thankyou

    Incidentally thought the FM was thrown onto the political back foot this week. Sandwiched between Donald trumps dislike of windmill, the devo max card and his inability to answer such basic questions as taxation, defence and the oil fund.

    Incidentally which Norway has achieved through some of the highest taxation levels in the world. Welcome to the democratic socialist world – £8 for a beer.

    I welcome informed comment.

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    • If your man in Oslo is really there he cannot fail to be aware that although Norwegians live in a country with a very high cost of living they also enjoy a very high standard of living and, generally speaking, are content with their lot. The gap between rich and poor is far less extreme than in the UK and the standard of social and medical services is well in advance of anything that we may aspire to. Roads,ferries and other transport infrastructure-bridges and tunnels – is of a very high standard although they have much more severe weather patterns and terrain to contend with.They manage to protect their fishing and rural communities and have an adequate but not excessive defence budget.
      Alcohol is taxed highly as a social priority and drunkeness is rarely encountered.If the price of beer is really your priority perhaps you would not like it!

      Incidentally, with their careful management of their Oil Fund the Norwegians have a fair bit of money in the bank for rainy days as well.

      They certainly have fewer windfarms than neighbouring Sweden and Denmark but their hydro electric capacity is so well exploited that they are able to export most of their North Sea Gas to others, including the UK.

      The crucial factor is, however, that Norway – a small nation of around 5 million people on the edge of Europe is independent and recently celebrated 100 years of self determination.

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  2. “Can you please reformat the text if this article. It’s one huge paragraph which does nothing to show case it’s contents.

    Thank you”

    Seconded….

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  3. Basically it looks as if ,yet again,a Tory has tried that old jam tomorrow trick.

    It worked in 1979 but more fool us if we believe it now.

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  5. Indeed the cost of living is exceptionally high. It cost me 160 nok the other night for 8 litres of milk and a loaf of bread. In today’s exchange rates that about £18!!!!!

    Healthcare child care and education for children is second to none, The Norwegian government run protectionist policies for it’s agricultural industries. Remember the butter shortage in Oslo at Christmas. In short high taxation allows the Norwegians to develop and maintain their oil fund. If an independent Scotland were to develop it’s own oil fund then the additional £1 billion per year saved would have to be raised in tax.

    Incidentally alchol is exceptional highly priced that’s why Norwegians tend to have forspiel before they go outie get tanked up at home then go out and finish up. Public drunkenness is not that socially unacceptable in fact a saturady night in Oslo is not too different to a saturadays night in Aberdeen or Glasgow.

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    • I thought the Huff Post had pretentions to credibility? – and it has offers from Waitrose (dirt cheap by Nog standards) in pride of place, so – recommending this stuff to us – you’d better be careful if you venture anywhere near the centre of Helensburgh.

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  6. I’ll be back in Helensburgh middle of March

    Recommend I did nothing of the sort though I must admit the close trade relations with china are a boon for Scottish seafood.

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