Comment posted Dunoon ferry meeting revealed more than it knew by bill jardine.
Neil Kay said:
“Hilarious? How disgusting, how low, how patronising – and frankly how stupid , insensitive and ignorant can you get? How can you make fun of people and communities who are frightened with good reason about their jobs, their health, their safety, and their future? You stupid, ignorant, insensitive woman.”
No points for diplomacy.
Maximum points for accuracy – but might I add arrogant and ill-informed to the list of adjectives?
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- Morag says: I cannot,for the life of me,understand such nasty comments as have appeared lately……
Me neither…but I think if you read the lead article it’s pretty clear that the trigger for said unpleasantness is in the article itself.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap…
- Newsroom: ‘A level of dishonesty unworthy of my previous record?’
Would you care to instance specifically where I have been dishonest in this posting?
Or is perhaps that you are miffed because I have once again pointed out that you deliberately – and dare I say dishonestly – omit facts or even invent ‘facts’ of your own to suit your case?
What precisely do you mean by ‘intellectual engagement’?
If it means challenging an argument in which insult and misinformation are presented as facts, then I’m certainly guilty of that.
‘We have been swingeingly and unequivocally critical of the SNP administration that has brought about the present mess – and arguably more mercilessly so than any’.
You have been critical, almost exclusively, of Stewart Stevenson, not the SNP government, and certainly not the present SNP MSP or his predecessor, both of whom were members of the government at the time of the ferry stitchup.
“From a comfortable distance, you are happy to support the complacent irrational whingeing that will take Dunoon nowhere.”
What has the ‘comfortable distance” got to do with it, and what precisely do you mean by ‘complacent irrational whingeing”?
These are three words that don’t quite work together; I think what you are trying to say, in you customary obtuse fashion, is ‘justified anger at a broken promise and the utterly duplicitous manner in which it was carried out’.
‘While you and we may often disagree, we would have expected more intellectual engagement and, frankly, more balls than this from you’.
Intellectual engagement? I suspect you are confusing this with waffle.
As for lacking ‘balls’ you imply that I am lacking courage. Am I missing something or are you simply being gratuitously insulting?
A little less ego, tempered with a touch of maturity on your part, wouldn’t go amiss.
- I’ve just picked up on this report, although have spoken to numerous people who attended the meeting; like Simon I am not surprised at the way this has been skewed, given FA’s track record of blind support for the SNP.
It’s quite extrordinary that FA has chosen to produce a piece which portrays the people of Dunoon as short-sighted Luddites simply to propagate Mike Russell’s image. (the man who ‘does not support much of what was done by the government in the lead up to the introduction of this service’….forgive me, but wasn’t he part of the government?)
A couple of points need to be addressed: as I understand it, the council built the breakwater to protect the existing pier. The linkspan was added on – and funded – at the insistence of the then Scottish Government.
This is supported by the fact that it was officially opened by Nicol Stephen, then the transport minister – not FA’s bogeyman, Dick Walsh, who might have been the obvious choice had the linkspan been the council’s baby.
As for the comment that “The town is the fiefdom of Council Leader, Dick Walsh and Dunoon has been taught to understand which side of its bread to look after”…..that sort of comment is utterly contemptible – Dunoon isn’t Libya, nor is Walsh Ghaddafi.
Similarly FA is – not for the first time – being very selective when it asks why no company was interested in tendering for a vehicle service.
The tender was on the basis of a six-year contract – there isn’t a ferry operator on the planet which would build vessels to run a service for such a short contract – bearing in mind, of course, that the promise from Mr Russell’s predecessor what that the SNP were going to build them in the first place….
And again FA repeats the old canard that there isn’t room for two competing vehicle services on the Cowal route.
Aye, right. So why did Western Ferries chose to commence operations there in the first place?
I am also assured from someone who actually attended the meeting that there was no invitation from a councillor to Mr Russell to go outside and fight. The invitation was indeed for Mr Russell to fight – but for his constituents – a rather different proposition.
Re the spin on this – I live in a different country – FA is on a different planet
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Ferryman: This is really wearying.
There are a number of reasons for the downturn in Calmac’s fortunes on this route, and most of them are self evident.
When I lived in Innellan, I consciously timed my departures to take the Calmac ferry – not because of any loyalty to the company, but because, I preferred to travel on their larger and more comfortable ships.
However, common sense dictated that if I missed the ferry I wasn’t going to sit around for an hour waiting for the next one, but would drive instead to Hunter’s Quay and catch one of Western’s ships, rather than sit around for an hour waiting for the next Calmac ferry.
That doesn’t constitute abandonment, simply common sense. And the restricted hourly service was no operational decision – it was implemented by a Tory government and continued through a whole gamut of political parties, all of whom made noises about it in opposition, but did nothing about it when they had the power to do so.
Calmac’s policy in the later years of the service was an absolute disaster – two examples being the abandonment of onboard ticketing and the placing of the Coruisk on the route, where berthing problems at Dunoon were endemic. In PR terms the company’s approach to what was once its flagship route was was both cavalier and arrogant and it’s hard not to draw the conclusion that it set itself up – or was set up by its masters – to fail.
As for Dave Hill’s views on FA’s credibility, the proof of the pudding is in this article, which has enough spin on it to make Blair’s WMD fable look accurate by comparison.
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Encore to that.
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Pardon me if I disagree. It long ago lost its amateur ethos, and with it any sense of what it was about.
The notion of a ‘Team GB’ featuring Wayne Rooney as a would-be Olympian says it all.
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It’s worthy of mention that Alan Reid managed to make scathing mention of the SNP no less than 16 times in a letter to last week’s Dunoon Observer on the subject of the Dunoon-Gourock ferry.
This is the same Alan Reid whose party used public funds to build the linkspan at Dunoon for a vehicular service, and whose party’s then leader in Scotland, the unlamented Nicol Stephen, promised that there would be ships to serve it…
…Mr Reid’s outrage on the subject proves conclusively that no one party has a monopoly on hypocrisy and barefaced cheek, and that the art of rewriting history and airbrushing out the inconvenient truths exists outside the pages of Nineteen-Eighty-Four.
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I don’t often agree with Newsroom, but they are right to question elements of this outcome.
Castle Toward is going to take a lot of cash to bring it up to scratch, and while £20m may seem like big bucks, a lot of it will be soaked up in refurbishment.
Similarly the creation of 200 jobs.
This deal needs a lot of clarification if it’s to become credible.
Right now it looks very much like it’s the creation of a PR consultant working very hard to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
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