Comment posted Dunoon ferry meeting revealed more than it knew by newsroom.
For ferryman: Can you then explain why, if such an unrestricted vehicle ferry service is such a sure fire profitable enterprise, not one sharp entrepreneur came forward to offer such a service in the tender? It was perfectly open to such a bid.
You also have to accept the reality that Western Ferries is running a vehicle and passenger service that seems to be serving the needs of the Gourock – Dunoon market without complaint.
Where then would the additional substantial vehicle market come from to sustain two successful private sector operations on the same route?
And of course we have put considerable thought into this matter. It is not a sudden situation, and like everyone interested in it, we have had plenty of time to think about it.
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- OFFICIAL CORRECTION OF INFORMATION ON THIS POST.
We have unequivocal official information from Argyll Ferries that this incident is a complete fabrication. It never happened.
This alarmist claim is therefore, according to the company, utterly untrue and the propagation of such material cannot be other than mischievous.
If there are people with first hand experience of the alleged incident and possibly mobile phone photographs who wish to contradict this, they should make that known and we will communicate it to the company.
- For ferryman: Please just read what we actually say.
We said nothing about Sandbank Marina – we simply said that Mr MacDonald’s attitude is exemplary in its readiness to address the real and immediate issue – and that his careful description of the waters in the Holy Loch made us grin.
- For Grant MacDonald: ‘The core issue is here and now. What will fix it? Quickly?’ This is a great attitude and this is what needs to be addressed – quickly.
And your description of the Holy Loch as ‘not as exciting as the estuary proper’ gave us the best grin of the day. Thanks.
- For Bill Jardine; This is a level of dishonesty unworthy of your previous record and you do Dunboon no favours by taking this very easy option, offe3ring it succour to stay in the rut it has got itself stuck in.
From a comfortable distance, you are happy to support the complacent irrational whingeing that will take Dunoon nowhere.
Form being here, in the middle of it, we are willing to risk audiences to put the real interests of the town first in putting an evidenced but unpopular set of perspectives for it to consider.
While you and we may often disagree, we would have expected more intellectual engagement and, frankly, more balls than this from you.
Nothing we have said is ‘biased’ and nothing is about supporting the SNP or not . We have been swingeingly and unequivocally critical of the SNP administration that has brought about the present mess – and arguably more mercilessly so than any.
What we are saying is based on economic and functional logic with observation of data that was there for everyone to see on Thursday night – which we recorded and, in analysing it after the event, came to realise what interesting dynamic changes it showed.
- For Campbell Cowan: For Argyll does not dislike Dunoon but is exasperated by its apparent inability to look at what it needs to do to make itself an attractive and worthwhile place for visitors – and to get on with it.
Ferrying cars to the ‘centre’ of a place with frankly little to offer is ferrying in those with the means to move on – and they did.
Ferrying in foot passengers is delivering hostages with no means of escape – and, brutally, this is Dunoon’s best bet commercially until it gets its act together.
Of all of Argyll’s major towns, Dunoon is the noisiest in complaining and the one evidently least minded to help itself. The town has real assets (all of which need serious work) but – except for the Burgh Hall project (which has an external engine) – but is showing no will to recast itself to develop these.
The magnificent pier has been left to rot with no voting threats to protect it.
The Queen’s Hall is still standing.
The ‘town centre’ is an obstructive mess, with ‘traffic calmers’ and a peppering of bollards and posts of all kinds. Driving and walking through it is a positively unpleasant and untranquil experience.
The esplanade is – what exactly?
The road system around the pier and ferries area is such a shapeless desert it is utterly indecipherable to drivers from elsewhere.
Similarly, the road system at and beyond the McColls Hotel building is incoherent.
The potentially attractive and charming hill streets beyond the pier, which could become a lively inner village, go unrecognised in their potential and, of course, undeveloped..
There is a serious crime problem, much of it imported with crime families from Clydebank – drugs, knives and guns – which manifests itself in anti-social and violent behaviour in the evenings, in parts of the town visitors might otherwise like to be around at that time of day.
Overall, the town is tired, jaded, shapeless, visually resistant to interest, sometimes threatening and short of enough first class retail and service opportunities to attract and retain visitors.
Dunoon has had councillors leading Argyll and Bute for a long time now, yet they are regularly and unquestioningly voted back despite the shape the town is in. There has been no integrated, intelligent, strategic envisioning and planning for the economic development and the future of this important town.
If Dunoon buys promises rather than delivery and is not interested in doing anything other than continually demanding the sort of ferry service it does not need, there is little anyone else can do for it.
And that should underpin just why Dunoon exasperates us.
The entire Cowal peninsula badly needs Dunoon to shape up because it is needed as the economic engine of the area – and that is its responsibility.
Nothing would be so energising and nothing as much fun as seeing Dunoon gather the will to reshape itself strategically for a prosperous future. If there were evidence of that, Dunoon would find For Argyll amongst its most vigorous and inventive supporters.
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The fact that Mr Allan was asked and agreed not to resign does not negate the fact that he was to resign – and should have done so.
Councillor McCuish was persuaded not to resign and will have to make his mind up at what point he puts the interests of his constituents before those of his party.
Sandy Taylor IS a novice councillor.
As a former council officer and not at the most senior level, it is hard to see how he would – if he were to be voted Council Leader – successfully translate to being senior to those who have been his own line managers.
The fact that he has not been able to protect his group of councillors from tightened control measures from party central does not suggest someone with what it takes to stand ground over those he perceives to be his seniors.
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We’re not going to do a ’20 questions’ routine but, to let local politicians off the hook, it’s not any of them.
And we’re now taking a vow of silence.
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Criticising behaviour – like Nimbyism [a worthy target], should not necessarily require tying it to a party or a group, although if there is good evidence why it belongs there, there is every reason to relate the two.
When you say: ‘Only in a very small number of occasions would I condone taking protest to the point of physical intimidation and I reserve that to some of the most significant ‘upheavals’ in modern times (examples being the fight against apartheid and the civil rights movement in the US) – even then there would be a line I, personally, couldn’t step over.’ – this is wholly understandable but using violence to protest against it is contradictory. I can never get playwright John Arden’s line out my head on this one: ‘You can’t cure the pox by further whoring.’
Civil disobedience is a very attractive and effective expression of disaffection but people are quite resistant to considering it.
- Arctic Convoy navies celebrated at Loch Ewe as surviving veterans receive Arctic Star medal
Email Jacky Brookes of the Russian Arctic Convoy Museum in Wester Ross: firstname.lastname@example.org (Russian Arctic Convoy Museum)
She will be glad to hear from you and of your father.
If you go to this webpage: http://www.veterans-uk.info/arctic_star_index.htm
- you will find an Application Form for the Arctic Star on it.
Alternatively, you can phone: 08457 800 900 and take it from there.
You will be able to get a posthumous medal for your father for his Arctic Convoy service – and although, painfully, he will never have known of it or seen it, he earned it and the medal will be very important to your family.
- First Minister’s choice not to condemn mob behaviour proves Farage point
We have people in Community Councils in Argyll who are on the record as not wanting ‘people of low incomes’ in their area. And those will be people of a variety of political persuasions. The socialist NIMBY is not a rare bird.
It is unsafe to give representational status to the fringe adherents of any cause – and that is why the cause itself – any cause – must be clear about what it finds acceptable and what it does not.
The need for the formal, official representative of a country to be clear on matters like this is even greater – and it sets the bar.
How would Mr Salmond react to the same treatment the mob offered Mr Farage in Edinburgh?
It was sudden and unexpected.
It began with an invasion of the pub he was in.
It was intimidating – the mob crowded tight in, creating a real pressure.
The shouting and the abuse was literally ‘in his face’.
There was no way through nor any offered.
It would be surprising if the First Minister were not to feel equally shaken by such an experience – and very surprising if he had effectively condoned it as gleefully afterwards.
Personally, I’m not afraid of much – but the pressure of shouting bodies, the level of unreason, the aggression – with no signals that this might not turn to physical aggression… I wouldn’t have run but I would have been worried for my safety and I would have had no certainty as to the outcome.
The police clearly had reason to take a quite extraordinary series of measures to protect Mr Farage.
One of these was locking him in a pub for his own safety.
That meant that they were uncertain of their ability to protect him against a violence they, who were present – clearly felt was a potential development.
I feel – on good evidence – that Tony Blair did more damage than anyone to the political life of this country, to its expectation of honesty in those who govern, to its essential democracy and to its security – and that he has blood on his hands: of untold thousands of innocent Iraqis, of Dr David Kelly, of those who died in London in the bombings of 7th July 2005. I feel the most profound contempt for him.[And Nigel Farage has nothing of this level of gravity on his record.]
But I would act to protect Blair were he to be the butt of anything like this – because I do not wish to be implicated either in what he has done or in any primitive lynch mob response to it.
The best punishment for the attention-seeking and egotistical Blair is to pay him no attention. He is not an homme serieux.
The best response to UKIP and MR Farage, if you are opposed to their politics, is not to vote for them.
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